Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by altairzq

MO is a sandbox game. Players should be in control of what is happening in the game, specially between them. So let the community of players solve this.

 

But you are wrong there. MO is a sandbox game but it has a notoriety system which, supposedly, take care of unwanted behaviour such as griefing. If you become flagged as a murderor NPCs wont trade with you and NPC guards in cities may attack you.

So MO is not a community only game.

Again, those of you who are claiming that having genitalia is for realism. Grow up, RPGs have had no nudity or porn for decades and this has not made them less realistic. I would rather say the opposite, freely running around naked would NOT be realistic in a high fantasy setting. Even in the real world full frontal nudity is severly restricted and many countries has law prohibiting you from doing so in public areas.

You give him reason with your response, " real world full frontal nudity is severly restricted and many countries has law prohibiting you from doing so in public areas", so maybe you can adjust the guards as soon as cities are available to attack people completely naked, maybe players can create a law in certain areas that they will kill anyone naked?

Originally posted by rav3n2

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by altairzq

MO is a sandbox game. Players should be in control of what is happening in the game, specially between them. So let the community of players solve this.

 

But you are wrong there. MO is a sandbox game but it has a notoriety system which, supposedly, take care of unwanted behaviour such as griefing. If you become flagged as a murderor NPCs wont trade with you and NPC guards in cities may attack you.

So MO is not a community only game.

Again, those of you who are claiming that having genitalia is for realism. Grow up, RPGs have had no nudity or porn for decades and this has not made them less realistic. I would rather say the opposite, freely running around naked would NOT be realistic in a high fantasy setting. Even in the real world full frontal nudity is severly restricted and many countries has law prohibiting you from doing so in public areas.

 

You give him reason with your response, " real world full frontal nudity is severly restricted and many countries has law prohibiting you from doing so in public areas", so maybe you can adjust the guards as soon as cities are available to attack people completely naked, maybe players can create a law in certain areas that they will kill anyone naked?

 

Yes, I mentioned in a previous post that devs could do that but I also mentioned that taking precious dev time for something that is completely unneccessary to begin with, like full frontal nudity, is just stupid in a high fantasy MMORPG.

Did you ever need to have full frontal nudity in LOTR? D&D? No, because that is not what high fantasy are about. And being able to loot someones underwear (as someone mentioned) is beyond stupid.

So my point is, by having full frontal nudity, the devs will, sooner or later, have to deal with the problems that will arise, such as running around naked in town, so why waste time to have it to begin with? They should spend more time designing good looking armor than an anatomically correct penis.

You just have to laugh. In a game full of killing, people get up in arms over a bit of nudity. Maybe thet's why the world is in such a mess.

Originally posted by korat102

You just have to laugh. In a game full of killing, people get up in arms over a bit of nudity. Maybe thet's why the world is in such a mess.

No, thats just a symptom. The main reason is simple:Power. The world breaks down in to two groups(at its most fundamental) those who want to control other people, and those who don't. Control is the real reason that governments exist. The Few have always sought control of the Many(their lifes and resources). Only the excuses/justifications have changed over the ages.

Originally posted by korat102

You just have to laugh. In a game full of killing, people get up in arms over a bit of nudity. Maybe thet's why the world is in such a mess.

Get of your high horse, noone is getting up in arms over nudity, I watch porn all the time. However I don't think it belongs in an MMORPG. It serves no purpose and will only create problems.

Originally posted by -Zeno-

www.mortalonline.com/forums/14366-combat-beta-review-2-a.html

Directly from an offical review.

This is no official review. It's promotion by a developer ;)

If a site like MMORPG.com or IGN.com writes a review, then it's review :D

Originally posted by Reizla

Originally posted by -Zeno-

www.mortalonline.com/forums/14366-combat-beta-review-2-a.html

Directly from an offical review.

 

This is no official review. It's promotion by a developer ;)

If a site like MMORPG.com or IGN.com writes a review, then it's review :D

Hmmm what are you on about?! That was written by a player, wether you want to call it a personal review a player review or whatever its a review a PLAYER REVIEWED the game. It was posted by the developers but its still the player who wrote the REVIEW.

Now you can say that reviews are more acurate when they are made by a gaming site , fair enough its your opinion, but what was posted was a review non the less.

Originally posted by Yamota

 

Get of your high horse, noone is getting up in arms over nudity, I watch porn all the time. However I don't think it belongs in an MMORPG. It serves no purpose and will only create problems.

then don't fucking play it. It's really that easy.

Side note: Holy shit, this thread is still going??

Originally posted by Saerain

I understand neither the childish tittering over the notion nor the prudish raging against it. As far as I am concerned, this is just another notch in the belt of realism Mortal Online wears in attempting to simulate their world. I respect a developer that sticks to their guns in this manner. See: CCP.

This.

Well said, man. /tiphat

Originally posted by rav3n2

Originally posted by Reizla

Originally posted by -Zeno-

www.mortalonline.com/forums/14366-combat-beta-review-2-a.html

Directly from an offical review.

 

This is no official review. It's promotion by a developer ;)

If a site like MMORPG.com or IGN.com writes a review, then it's review :D

 

Hmmm what are you on about?! That was written by a player, wether you want to call it a personal review a player review or whatever its a review a PLAYER REVIEWED the game. It was posted by the developers but its still the player who wrote the REVIEW.

Now you can say that reviews are more acurate when they are made by a gaming site , fair enough its your opinion, but what was posted was a review non the less.

I would not call that a "review", as it is not complete enough to be seen as a review of MO, nor can it be considered unbiased since devs have picked to show it.

But sure, a short, possibly biased review, yes.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by rav3n2

Originally posted by Reizla

Originally posted by -Zeno-

www.mortalonline.com/forums/14366-combat-beta-review-2-a.html

Directly from an offical review.

 

This is no official review. It's promotion by a developer ;)

If a site like MMORPG.com or IGN.com writes a review, then it's review :D

 

Hmmm what are you on about?! That was written by a player, wether you want to call it a personal review a player review or whatever its a review a PLAYER REVIEWED the game. It was posted by the developers but its still the player who wrote the REVIEW.

Now you can say that reviews are more acurate when they are made by a gaming site , fair enough its your opinion, but what was posted was a review non the less.

I would not call that a "review", as it is not complete enough to be seen as a review of MO, nor can it be considered unbiased since devs have picked to show it.

But sure, a short, possibly biased review, yes.

Agreed, it will be biased, it was picked by the devs they probably picked one that would inspire other ppl and hype them up a litle bit, non the less there was enough "honesty" for me to continue having hope if that makes any sense, but its still a review , maybe not a "complete review" but he reviewed combat, I can review how wonderfull mcdonal's chips are without having to review the entire restaurant, its still a review not complete but a review.

Originally posted by Cursedsei

Originally posted by harmonica

I wonder if it dangles?

I want to teabag all of my foes.

 

And vice versa... mmm.

 

Least be glad there's no blue glowing people in that game...

 

that will do the "Helicopter" with their no-noes in public...

As disturbing as it sounds, I could see it happening. Thanks for that, the mental image made me laugh.

Originally posted by Saerain

I understand neither the childish tittering over the notion nor the prudish raging against it. As far as I am concerned, this is just another notch in the belt of realism Mortal Online wears in attempting to simulate their world. I respect a developer that sticks to their guns in this manner. See: CCP.

So, once again, I have to ask, what realistic gameplay purpose does nudity add?

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Originally posted by jonrd463

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Originally posted by Saerain

I understand neither the childish tittering over the notion nor the prudish raging against it. As far as I am concerned, this is just another notch in the belt of realism Mortal Online wears in attempting to simulate their world. I respect a developer that sticks to their guns in this manner. See: CCP.

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So, once again, I have to ask, what realistic gameplay purpose does nudity add?

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That's like asking, "what realistic gameplay purpose does weather add?"

I don't think it has anything to do with gameplay (neither adding to nor detracting from). It has more to do with immersion and realism. Not everything in the game needs to directly affect gameplay in order to be a viable addition.

Originally posted by Moretrinkets

blah blah blah, obviously the devs want to hype the game here. anyways, I care less. But chances are they will censor full frontal (at least for US) on the last minute and put some loincloth. we know that in US a naked man is wrong.

This reminds me about all the hype related to nudity in Age of Conan.  What people ended up with were some cartoon breasts and a broken game that was missing advertised gameplay features. 

Then the breasts started getting covered up via game updates, and people who paid to see pixelated naughty parts cried foul.  To me this just says, "gimmick." 

I don't really have an inclination to see some avatar's virtual package.  Really, I'd just like to see a new MMO that works and has fun gameplay.  There's been a shortage of that lately imo.

Originally posted by Cochran1

Originally posted by Cursedsei

Originally posted by harmonica

I wonder if it dangles?

I want to teabag all of my foes.

 

And vice versa... mmm.

 

Least be glad there's no blue glowing people in that game...

 

that will do the "Helicopter" with their no-noes in public...

 

As disturbing as it sounds, I could see it happening. Thanks for that, the mental image made me laugh.

DISCLAIMER:

If you can't take a bit of crude humor . . . don't click the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPKvwd9vJZY

Sorry, I had to.

Originally posted by Nizur

 

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Originally posted by jonrd463

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Originally posted by Saerain

 

I understand neither the childish tittering over the notion nor the prudish raging against it. As far as I am concerned, this is just another notch in the belt of realism Mortal Online wears in attempting to simulate their world. I respect a developer that sticks to their guns in this manner. See: CCP.

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So, once again, I have to ask, what realistic gameplay purpose does nudity add?

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That's like asking, "what realistic gameplay purpose does weather add?"

Weather is experienced by everyone who plays the game. Some people alter their playstyle according to the weather. Loud, thunderous rain can mask the sounds of an enemy stealthily pursuing you. If implemented well, a dark overcast can cause a general desaturation in the colors of the environment making it easier to hide in shadows. On clear, sunny days, the visibility can allow you to see greater distances. Sunshine could cause armor to glint in the distance, alerting you to the presence of other people down in that valley, or up on the mountainside ahead.

That's a bad example.

Originally posted by jonrd463

Originally posted by Saerain

I understand neither the childish tittering over the notion nor the prudish raging against it. As far as I am concerned, this is just another notch in the belt of realism Mortal Online wears in attempting to simulate their world. I respect a developer that sticks to their guns in this manner. See: CCP.

 

So, once again, I have to ask, what realistic gameplay purpose does nudity add?

Interesting question. Thinking about it, what have such level of detail with:

- clouds in a sky.

- blood splattered on the ground.

- facial hair for male characters.

- boobs for female characters.

Hmmm...thinking about it, its just another level of detail.

Originally posted by Krux

Originally posted by jonrd463

Originally posted by Saerain

I understand neither the childish tittering over the notion nor the prudish raging against it. As far as I am concerned, this is just another notch in the belt of realism Mortal Online wears in attempting to simulate their world. I respect a developer that sticks to their guns in this manner. See: CCP.

 

So, once again, I have to ask, what realistic gameplay purpose does nudity add?

 

Interesting question. Thinking about it, what have such level of detail with:

- clouds in a sky.

- blood splattered on the ground.

- facial hair for male characters.

- boobs for female characters.

 

Hmmm...thinking about it, its just another level of detail.

Clouds everyone in an outside environment that everyone can see. Blood as an enhancement to combat, adding a visceral feel to it. Facial hair to accent individuality and provide an added level of variety, and boobs... well, if you mean female character models having boobs, it's a physical trait that women have that are obvious even when fully clothed.

Understand, I'm not arguing against having nudity in the game. I'm arguing against the rationale of players promoting it as "brave" or "progressive" or "realistic", since so far, the only honest reasons (imo) that have been given for why nudity should be in the game is specific to male toons teabagging defeated foes. While I have my own opinion about people like that, they at least don't hide behind some pretentious abstracted reason that has no substance.

Originally posted by jonrd463

Originally posted by Krux

Originally posted by jonrd463

Originally posted by Saerain

I understand neither the childish tittering over the notion nor the prudish raging against it. As far as I am concerned, this is just another notch in the belt of realism Mortal Online wears in attempting to simulate their world. I respect a developer that sticks to their guns in this manner. See: CCP.

 

So, once again, I have to ask, what realistic gameplay purpose does nudity add?

 

Interesting question. Thinking about it, what have such level of detail with:

- clouds in a sky.

- blood splattered on the ground.

- facial hair for male characters.

- boobs for female characters.

 

Hmmm...thinking about it, its just another level of detail.

Clouds everyone in an outside environment that everyone can see. Blood as an enhancement to combat, adding a visceral feel to it. Facial hair to accent individuality and provide an added level of variety, and boobs... well, if you mean female character models having boobs, it's a physical trait that women have that are obvious even when fully clothed.

Understand, I'm not arguing against having nudity in the game. I'm arguing against the rationale of players promoting it as "brave" or "progressive" or "realistic", since so far, the only honest reasons (imo) that have been given for why nudity should be in the game is specific to male toons teabagging defeated foes. While I have my own opinion about people like that, they at least don't hide behind some pretentious abstracted reason that has no substance.

I hear ya....but honestly, this is the honest reason.

This is a fantasy game. Blood doesnt enhance combat, but its a visual additive to an action in a fantasy game, and is a result, realistically, to what's seen when you strike someone with a sword.

That's no different than a more realistic result that occurs when someone takes off their cloths; you see everything.