Originally posted by PonyboyJR

Does anyone else feel like this game is a fallout rip off?

1. Factions seems really similar to the fallout 1 theme, The Children of the Apocalypse, wasnt there a church group of evil robe wearing humans in fallout 1 named church of the apocalypse. Enforcers sound just like brotherhood of steel. You got yr vistas (farmers) , travelers (raiders), techs (scribes of the brotherhood of steel)  and lightbearers (really similar to fallout 2 martial artists in san francisco).

2. The stats u have in this game is excatly the same as in the fallout games, with the inclusion of willpower and coordination( You got strength,charisma,endurance,intelligence,perception being the rest of em).

3. The name has "fall" in it, and even the ingame map reads "global-tech" (remember vault tech anyone).

 

I really like the post apocalyptic world setting and admire any game that thinks out of the box to create a whole new genre besides the same old fantasy world with your elves and orcs. But i think this game has so many similarities with the fallout series that it is a downright act of plagiarism.

What do yall think , i may be just crazy and paranoid and comparing this game too much with fallout.

 

I am not 100% sure, but I think you are breaking the Fallen Earth NDA.

Originally posted by eagle4x4

Originally posted by PonyboyJR

Does anyone else feel like this game is a fallout rip off?

1. Factions seems really similar to the fallout 1 theme, The Children of the Apocalypse, wasnt there a church group of evil robe wearing humans in fallout 1 named church of the apocalypse. Enforcers sound just like brotherhood of steel. You got yr vistas (farmers) , travelers (raiders), techs (scribes of the brotherhood of steel)  and lightbearers (really similar to fallout 2 martial artists in san francisco).

2. The stats u have in this game is excatly the same as in the fallout games, with the inclusion of willpower and coordination( You got strength,charisma,endurance,intelligence,perception being the rest of em).

3. The name has "fall" in it, and even the ingame map reads "global-tech" (remember vault tech anyone).

 

I really like the post apocalyptic world setting and admire any game that thinks out of the box to create a whole new genre besides the same old fantasy world with your elves and orcs. But i think this game has so many similarities with the fallout series that it is a downright act of plagiarism.

What do yall think , i may be just crazy and paranoid and comparing this game too much with fallout.

 

I am not 100% sure, but I think you are breaking the Fallen Earth NDA.

theres nothing mentioned there that isnt on the front page of the fe website

A fun game is a fun game. regardless of who ripsoff who.

Anyone who says this is a ripoff is a fool. Clearly it does use the post-apocalyptic theme but the bases of the two stories are extremely different. Fallout is based on a fantasy world where "Science!" prevails and allows for many odd happenings. It's also known that in the Fallout universe, the timeline split around 1950 from the real one and evolved in a different way, hence why technology in the future was retro-futuristic, very reminiscent of the 50s and how people in the 50s thought the future would be like.

In Fallen Earth, the timeline progress much the same and the reasons for the "fall out" are quite different. In essence, both universes are very unique and as such cannot really be called rip-offs of one another. Post-apocalyptic worlds would have to be trademarked and copyrighted on their own for anyone to be called a rip-off of anything doing the same basic thing.

So in short, Fallen Earth isn't a Fallout rip-off so get over it. I'm a fan of both and prefer the more modern approach to Fallen Earth's world.

Originally posted by Mystik86

Anyone who says this is a ripoff is a fool. Clearly it does use the post-apocalyptic theme but the bases of the two stories are extremely different. Fallout is based on a fantasy world where "Science!" prevails and allows for many odd happenings. It's also known that in the Fallout universe, the timeline split around 1950 from the real one and evolved in a different way, hence why technology in the future was retro-futuristic, very reminiscent of the 50s and how people in the 50s thought the future would be like.

In Fallen Earth, the timeline progress much the same and the reasons for the "fall out" are quite different. In essence, both universes are very unique and as such cannot really be called rip-offs of one another. Post-apocalyptic worlds would have to be trademarked and copyrighted on their own for anyone to be called a rip-off of anything doing the same basic thing.

So in short, Fallen Earth isn't a Fallout rip-off so get over it. I'm a fan of both and prefer the more modern approach to Fallen Earth's world.

Agreed.  Fallout's future is also based on a nuclear armageddon as opposed to a viral one in FE.  This means that there really is a pretty big difference in art and style.  FE tends to a more deserted landscape as opposed to a destroyed landscape (aka fallout).

Secondly, one of the things that made Fallout such a hit was it's wonderful sense of humor.  Kudos to Interplay for really doing that well and taking what would have been just a decent RPG and making it a true gaming franchise.  Everything from the silly 50s retro art to all of the weird dialogue and interactions.  Fallout has always been a memorable game w/ a ton of easter eggs. 

So, while there are some similarities since they share the same genre of game, they really do have very distinct art styles and unless FE goes for campy situations and dialogue I don't see it as plagarism or stealing.

I really enjoyed Fallout, but I think I may believe that Fallen Earth is better.

Originally posted by PonyboyJR

Does anyone else feel like this game is a fallout rip off?

1. Factions seems really similar to the fallout 1 theme, The Children of the Apocalypse, wasnt there a church group of evil robe wearing humans in fallout 1 named church of the apocalypse. Enforcers sound just like brotherhood of steel. You got yr vistas (farmers) , travelers (raiders), techs (scribes of the brotherhood of steel)  and lightbearers (really similar to fallout 2 martial artists in san francisco).

2. The stats u have in this game is excatly the same as in the fallout games, with the inclusion of willpower and coordination( You got strength,charisma,endurance,intelligence,perception being the rest of em).

3. The name has "fall" in it, and even the ingame map reads "global-tech" (remember vault tech anyone).

 

I really like the post apocalyptic world setting and admire any game that thinks out of the box to create a whole new genre besides the same old fantasy world with your elves and orcs. But i think this game has so many similarities with the fallout series that it is a downright act of plagiarism.

What do yall think , i may be just crazy and paranoid and comparing this game too much with fallout.

 

I laughed when you said the game has "Fall" in it. yeah i would correct you HARD but am also not wanting to break NDA. They have said repeatedly however in posts and articles that they are not "The Fallout" RPG as everyone so infamously knows.

Oh my! Wow!

The game has basic RPG stats like Strength and Charisma!

The game is based in an apoctolyptic setting!

The game have Fall in the name!

How could I not have seen it!

It MUST be a Fallout clone!!!

But wait....

It's an MMORPG...

It lacks the same black humor....

It seems to be a game with a very serious tone...

It uses improvised weaponary, unlike Fallout which usually features various firearms...

It seems to lack alien life forms, unlike Fallout which features alien life forms and laser weaponary...

It's combat system seems to be NOTHING like Fallout, which features a turn-based system, unlike FE's tradition MMORPG system...

It doesn't seem to have the perk system like Fallout, or a pip-boy of some kind...

Guess it's a Fallout rip-off. No other option.

Yeah, there's definitely some inspiration there, but it is in no way a Fallout clone/rip-off. I guess you could say, it's as WoW is to WAR.

Originally posted by PonyboyJR

fallout rip off?

 

hopefully yes!

Fallout was a rip off of Wasteland....

Originally posted by Teiman

Some movies:

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You missed a post-apocalyptic classic: A Boy and His Dog. (1975)

Ed: apparently the film is now public domain, link to public domain torrents.

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Originally posted by PonyboyJR
Does anyone else feel like this game is a fallout rip off?

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When they add crafting to Fallout, you would only have the first reason to start a thread like this.

Every game has "factions" so yeah, they ripped off Fallout. Not.

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Originally posted by PonyboyJR
"The stats u have in this game is excatly the same as in the fallout games, with the inclusion of willpower and coordination( You got strength,charisma,endurance,intelligence,perception being the rest of em)."

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Then they aren't "exactly the same", no?

It also has the name "Earth" in it. Earth and Beyond had humans in it. Omg.. it's actually a ripoff of "Earth and Beyond"!

You're not crazy and paranoid. You're just-

Originally posted by BrazilMerkin

Originally posted by Teiman

Some movies:

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You missed a post-apocalyptic classic: A Boy and His Dog. (1975)

 

Ed: apparently the film is now public domain, link to public domain torrents.

A boy and his dog? like the book? hahaha.. wait... is a movie about the book!.

nice :-) , anyway the book was somewhat weird... I don't see it as a movie. 

Originally posted by Teiman

Originally posted by BrazilMerkin

Originally posted by Teiman

Some movies:

. . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . .

 

You missed a post-apocalyptic classic: A Boy and His Dog. (1975)

 

Ed: apparently the film is now public domain, link to public domain torrents.

 

A boy and his dog? like the book? hahaha.. wait... is a movie about the book!.

nice :-) , anyway the book was somewhat weird... I don't see it as a movie. 

I tried that torrent, worked great, lotta seeders, it DL'd fast. Ran the file to check the vid quality, it's not bad at all. Gonna watch it this weekend, it's been many years since I last saw it. Never woulda had the idea if you hadn't made your list, Thanks! 

Some folks might not get this but I have 2 words for both games.

Gamma World

End of the world stuff make it similar but as far as gameplay goes, its not even really close.  Wish it was though, lol, that would b an awesome game

Originally posted by PonyboyJR

"Does anyone else feel like this game is a fallout rip off?"

 

 Doesn't really matter to me. It's an MMO and Fallout wasn't. Looks like a cool concept. The crafting system really interests me. Seems as though it will make crafting worthwhile and fun. Hopefully it will have enough of a fanbase to survive. I also liked the concept of Hellgate: London which offered a regular offline retail game to play as well as an online MMO with both free and pay options. I don't feel quite as cheated that it went belly up because I still have the offline game to play. May try it because I've been looking for a game with a cool crafting system.

Originally posted by Kexin

You're out of your fraking mind.

Yeah its similar to Fallout, but thats not an issue. If there's an issue it's that the game isn't similar to Fallout enough.

exactly, these idiots shouldnt be making a mmo the fallout guys should be. more or less cause there doing a crap ass job of it.

yeah, even if it is a ripoff, you got the multiplayer that fallout failed to, that's the mmorpg thing, right? being multiplayer

Originally posted by Kexin

You're out of your fraking mind.

Yeah its similar to Fallout, but thats not an issue. If there's an issue it's that the game isn't similar to Fallout enough.