This is a stupid thread.  No games are going to kill WoW.  WoW is a very unique game in that it addicts even people who don't like the game, such as it did with me.  The people who play WoW will always be there.

Honestly, even if WoW has only 2 million subs by the time SWTOR, Aion, Champions, DC Online, APB and The Agency come out, is it really dead?  Not even close.  The only thing that can kill WoW is more time, I say six years.

"What will you do when Aion kills WoW?"

I'm no fan of WoW, but this title literally made me spew water out my nose at work.

When Aion kills WoW ...

Well personaly I think I'll go iceskating in hell.

I'm not particulary fond of either game, but WoW has recognizable quality, and I can easily see why it's popular. Aion on the other hand is like a watered down, grindy  version of warhammer online, a bad copy of a bad copy. The only good thing in the game is the character generator.

Originally posted by Chobzor

Aion is killing WoW in Asia. It has more than 3,5m subscribers in Korea/China and is 6 month old  (2 months in China) , it isn't released in Taiwan, Japan and all the western countries. This game is going to get more subscribers than WoW worldwilde.

Will you still play WoW?

So the premise is that one should only play games that the most other people play??

Lame.....lemming-like

I'll have to echo others in that this thread is very stupid and should be closed.

I'm super excited for Aion but it's not going to "kill WoW" even if Aion surpasses WoW, WoW is still going to have a strong following and continue to do well. Plus gloating about Aion is stupid. While I'm excited it could fail miserably after a few months. You just don't know.

Seriously where are the moderators. The title of this thread makes the object clear.

The only hting that aion might kill is a few people that will stay up 24/7 and snort coke to stay awake so they can be the first to acheive max lvl.

I was quite interested in seeing how people would respond to this post... from avid WoW fans to people who are raving about Aion.

I played WoW, and I must say that it rocketed me being goody-two-shoes to computer geek in 0 seconds flat. It's a well thought of game, and "designed to work on a wide spectrum of computers"*, which contributes to their success. I will admit that gold spamming farmers are annoying, they didn't really affect overall game play... unless you are in area trying to complete a quest, and they are killing everything in sight. However, it does get a bit tedious. After you've reached max level, then what? Your day becomes a chore of raiding for armor, PvP for armor or prestige, building faction, and/or working on skills. Day in, day out... snore (or you go blind from your eyes glued to the screen for so long).

In my humble opinion, the world will go on whether either game lives or dies. It is up to the players to choose which one they worship, and who knows, it might even be both!

*Credit to my awesome friend, Tony.

Aion will never kill WOW. Sure, when it launches, it will draw a ton of players from WOW. This is a given because it has happened with AOC, WAR and other games. However, they will return.

Why? Well, as someone who has played Aion during the trial weekend (both sides to 10), the game will hardly appeal to WOW players. Yes, I know it gets better at 25 and blah blah blah - the same ole stuff Aion players will try and use to say I am wrong. However, remember the classic phrase: YOU NEVER GET A SECOND CHANCE TO MAKE A FIRST IMPRESSION. The problem with Aion is that it's first impression is horrible. If NCSoft expects Aion to be a success in the West, they need to make some changes.

Just so you know, I have played MMO's 10+ years and have played WOW off and on since launch. I was the GM of a huge raiding guild on Blackhand at launch. I have tried almost every MMO since WOW has come out and found them all lacking in one way or another (some more than others). I always come back to WOW for various reasons. Right now I am actually playing more single player games than anything though. Age of Empires, Titan Quest, Diablo 2, Bioshock, etc....

So why will most WOW players not like Aion? (Note: I am speaking in generalities and assumptions here and for myself - in other words, why I do not like Aion and why WOW appeals more to me)

1. The graphics. For many, the graphics are an immediate turnoff. I am not going to elaborate here but the style of the graphics does limit its appeal for many. Just like for many who say they cannot play WOW because of its graphics as well.

2. The linear aspect of Aion. Sorry but levels 1-10 is beyond linear. It makes levels 1-20 in Age of Conan look like a wide open space.

3. Wings. You get to fly for 1 whole minute (more like 40 seconds before you need to start finding somehwere to land) and you cannot fly everywhere. Sorry but if this is its major selling point, it should be for accessible.

4. The branching class system. You get to pick your class at level 10. The first 10 levels are like 20 levels in WOW. Then you get to play your class.

5. The quests are all get this, kill that or deliver this. After WOTLK, I think WOW players want a little more from their quests. Sure many are the same, but it seems the quests in WOW actually have a point or make you feel like you are part of the world. In Aion, I felt as if I was doing quests ONLY to level.

6. The game starts at level _____ (insert # here). Sorry WOW players are impatient players. It is true. When I start a new game, that game has limited time to "hook" me. Basically, I start asking myself: "Why am I playing this and not WOW?"; "What does this game offer that WOW doesn't?"; "What is going to make me stay in this game and leave WOW?"

Remember we are talking, for many people, YEARS of friendships andrelationships that have been formed in and around WOW. it is a cultural phenomenon at this point. The new game (whatever it is) must make you WANT to leave WOW. Aion does not hav that hook and I am afriad people will not wait around 20, 25, 30 or 40 levels to get the "hook". Even if there is a great hook, many will have already left.

Aion has som great stuff. It is a fabolous game in many ways. However, I think, just because of its sub numbers, people are over-estimating its appeal (especially to the Western MMO market). And while we are on the subject of those numbers:

CAN ANYONE PROVIDE AN OFFICIAL LINK STATING IT HAS 3.5 MILLION PLAYERS? I have seen many people say it, but nothing official quoting it. Sorry, I want proof when we are talking numbers.

Aion will not kill WoW but it will be the only game that competes with WoW. I dont see any other game that will get millions of subs like Aion and WoW.

Originally posted by templarga

Aion will never kill WOW. Sure, when it launches, it will draw a ton of players from WOW. This is a given because it has happened with AOC, WAR and other games. However, they will return.

Why? Well, as someone who has played Aion during the trial weekend (both sides to 10), the game will hardly appeal to WOW players. Yes, I know it gets better at 25 and blah blah blah - the same ole stuff Aion players will try and use to say I am wrong. However, remember the classic phrase: YOU NEVER GET A SECOND CHANCE TO MAKE A FIRST IMPRESSION. The problem with Aion is that it's first impression is horrible. If NCSoft expects Aion to be a success in the West, they need to make some changes.

Just so you know, I have played MMO's 10+ years and have played WOW off and on since launch. I was the GM of a huge raiding guild on Blackhand at launch. I have tried almost every MMO since WOW has come out and found them all lacking in one way or another (some more than others). I always come back to WOW for various reasons. Right now I am actually playing more single player games than anything though. Age of Empires, Titan Quest, Diablo 2, Bioshock, etc....

So why will most WOW players not like Aion? (Note: I am speaking in generalities and assumptions here and for myself - in other words, why I do not like Aion and why WOW appeals more to me)

1. The graphics. For many, the graphics are an immediate turnoff. I am not going to elaborate here but the style of the graphics does limit its appeal for many. Just like for many who say they cannot play WOW because of its graphics as well.

2. The linear aspect of Aion. Sorry but levels 1-10 is beyond linear. It makes levels 1-20 in Age of Conan look like a wide open space.

3. Wings. You get to fly for 1 whole minute (more like 40 seconds before you need to start finding somehwere to land) and you cannot fly everywhere. Sorry but if this is its major selling point, it should be for accessible.

4. The branching class system. You get to pick your class at level 10. The first 10 levels are like 20 levels in WOW. Then you get to play your class.

5. The quests are all get this, kill that or deliver this. After WOTLK, I think WOW players want a little more from their quests. Sure many are the same, but it seems the quests in WOW actually have a point or make you feel like you are part of the world. In Aion, I felt as if I was doing quests ONLY to level.

6. The game starts at level _____ (insert # here). Sorry WOW players are impatient players. It is true. When I start a new game, that game has limited time to "hook" me. Basically, I start asking myself: "Why am I playing this and not WOW?"; "What does this game offer that WOW doesn't?"; "What is going to make me stay in this game and leave WOW?"

Remember we are talking, for many people, YEARS of friendships andrelationships that have been formed in and around WOW. it is a cultural phenomenon at this point. The new game (whatever it is) must make you WANT to leave WOW. Aion does not hav that hook and I am afriad people will not wait around 20, 25, 30 or 40 levels to get the "hook". Even if there is a great hook, many will have already left.

Aion has som great stuff. It is a fabolous game in many ways. However, I think, just because of its sub numbers, people are over-estimating its appeal (especially to the Western MMO market). And while we are on the subject of those numbers:

CAN ANYONE PROVIDE AN OFFICIAL LINK STATING IT HAS 3.5 MILLION PLAYERS? I have seen many people say it, but nothing official quoting it. Sorry, I want proof when we are talking numbers.

As far as official numbers, we have the number of servers, (162 I believe), and the peak users at a time number of about 7000, then the industry average that means 1/3-1/4 of the users are online, so 7000 online on a server means that there are a total of 21,000-28,000 per server. 

It's all out there if you really want to look for it.

Originally posted by Korvenus

Aion will not kill WoW but it will be the only game that competes with WoW. I dont see any other game that will get millions of subs like Aion and WoW.

SWTOR is more likely to be a success in the West. The Bioware name coupled with the Star Wars IP will pull tons of folks to try the game out.

To the moderators this thread is silly. an we get this closed?

Originally posted by Chobzor

Aion is killing WoW in Asia. It has more than 3,5m subscribers in Korea/China and is 6 month old  (2 months in China) , it isn't released in Taiwan, Japan and all the western countries. This game is going to get more subscribers than WoW worldwilde.

Will you still play WoW?

Will it kill WoW? No.

Will it kill Lineage 2? Yes......

I want to see Aion do well in sales but it doing better  than WoW won't affect my decision on which one to play.  WoW has become way too much of a gear grind for me and I'm extremely bored of the meaningless pvp.   All I know is that I have played in 3 beta events for Aion (since the Chinese OB)  and I have had more fun leveling up toons to the throttled level cap in Aion betas than I have had in an mmo for a while.  Since I've played wow I have tried numerous mmo's (GW, LOTRO, AoC, WAR) trying to find something better to spend my gametime on but I think Aion will be the one that takes my $15 reguardless of how it competes.  I don't think I have unreasonably high expectations of the game because I do realize that it just came out in Korea months ago and they are still adding content and whatnot but dang, I think Aion is being built on a very solid foundation.  I like the combat. I like the look and feel of the game. It runs great on my midgrade gaming PC. I like the lore.I am currently reading up on the lore and loving it. I like the way that the campain quests fill you in to what's going on and I like the cutscenes that help with immersion. Anyways I don't really care if Aion kills WoW. I just really want to see more competition in the mmo market.  A lack of competition in any market only hurts the consumer.  Blizz has gotten a little fat and lazy imo and they need to work for my hard earned money  :P

little kids post topics like this.  this is the new generation's "my dad can beat up your dad"

OP, I think you don't realize what a massive juggernout WOW has become.

I like a RPG with a robust skill system, so that I can spend days contemplating different builds.  WoW's skill system doesn't even come close and I hear Aion's is even simpler than WoWs.

So no thanks to either, wake me up when a real RPG comes along.

Originally posted by Chobzor

Aion is killing WoW in Asia. It has more than 3,5m subscribers in Korea/China and is 6 month old  (2 months in China) , it isn't released in Taiwan, Japan and all the western countries. This game is going to get more subscribers than WoW worldwilde.
Will you still play WoW?

What will I do?

Find some way to cash in on all those flying pigs I'm going to start seeing...

Originally posted by Beermangler

Well if asians switch to Aion, is actually good news for WoW:

- no more kiddies creating blood elves because they look anime

- no more asian gold farmers spamming general chat

- no more kiddie gold beggars

 

So yes! Go Aion! Gather up as much anime-loving kiddie n00bs! PLEASE!!!! 

who really sounds like the kiddie here.

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by Beermangler

Well if asians switch to Aion, is actually good news for WoW:

- no more kiddies creating blood elves because they look anime

- no more asian gold farmers spamming general chat

- no more kiddie gold beggars

 

So yes! Go Aion! Gather up as much anime-loving kiddie n00bs! PLEASE!!!! 

who really sounds like the kiddie here.

He has the typical WoW mentality . . . the reason I don't play the game.

probably I will be playing another game since I am not playing WoW and not going to play EMO-ion either.