Here is my two cents

In past few years my MMO addiction forced me to test,buy and play most every AA MMO released.

From SWG to WOW, from Vanguard to Potbs, From Lotro to Tabula Rasa, and from AOC to WAR...

Most of them I regret waisting my money on.

But each time a new MMO is release i fall into the hype ,  wishfull thinking and I cave in and buy.

I must say I am happy this is absolutely not case with Aion.

Watching clips about Aion , and reading about it - makes me want to mentally vomit.

4 years now we seen endless stream of WOW clones. And while all of them were pathetic in their own right.

At least they tried to do something original.

But what is Aion ? How does it stand out from the crowd?

WINGS!

Yes. You want to know about aion ?

Well you know its like WOW, but you get wings.

And the graphic is better.

I can not blame NCsoft for trying. They have money and will to make sucesfull MMO.

And they want to have a sure shot. And what can be more sure than generic clone 101 of a game that captured millions.

For the sake of you that are going to buy this game.

I just hope Aion is damn good. And polished as diamond.

Cause where is the logic of buying a copy that is worse than original ?

Okay thanks byeeeeee

Hate to burst your bubble but considering Aion was made in and for a different country all together I don't think WoW was on their minds very much. You are the unorginal one with comments and bias like this. If you can't see what Aion has to offer that doesn't mean it's a WoW clone. 

But don't play Aion then. Not one person will care if you play Aion I can promise you that.

That's all.

The thing is what it claims to do it does well. Nothing hidden, no false claims that I ve seem, it s just a good game all around. Will it be the best who knows, but what has come out recently, it IMO is much better.

You made this thread why?

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Here is my two cents

In past few years my MMO addiction forced me to test,buy and play most every AA MMO released.

From SWG to WOW, from Vanguard to Potbs, From Lotro to Tabula Rasa, and from AOC to WAR...

Most of them I regret waisting my money on.

But each time a new MMO is release i fall into the hype ,  wishfull thinking and I cave in and buy.

I must say I am happy this is absolutely not case with Aion.

 

Watching clips about Aion , and reading about it - makes me want to mentally vomit.

 

4 years now we seen endless stream of WOW clones. And while all of them were pathetic in their own right.

At least they tried to do something original.

But what is Aion ? How does it stand out from the crowd?

WINGS!

Yes. You want to know about aion ?

Well you know its like WOW, but you get wings.

And the graphic is better.

 

I can not blame NCsoft for trying. They have money and will to make sucesfull MMO.

And they want to have a sure shot. And what can be more sure than generic clone 101 of a game that captured millions.

 

For the sake of you that are going to buy this game.

I just hope Aion is damn good. And polished as diamond.

Cause where is the logic of buying a copy that is worse than original ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're looking at the game from a PVE'rs perspective obviously.  I think PVP is the part of both games you cant seem to grasp.  Otherwise, your opinion would be drastically different.

however, unlike WoW.. this games focus is on PvP.  So you if you dont really understand or dislike PvP, this game definitely wont cater to you.

Reading your post makes me want to mentally vomit.  Which, as it happens, us a celebration of unoriginality in itself.  You haven't even played the game, and you haven't really read up on it that much either.  Your ignorance on the subject is painfully obvious.

OP, what MMo are you playing right now? Just curious as it may be what you`ve describe "same old, same old"...

Originally posted by madeux

Reading your post makes me want to mentally vomit.  Which, as it happens, us a celebration of unoriginality in itself.  You haven't even played the game, and you haven't really read up on it that much either.  Your ignorance on the subject is painfully obvious.

 

 . . .but the hate train is original right?  RIGHT?!

Your post IS mental vomit, OP.  You should change your name to Lobotomized...

Your MMO addiction? Dont make me laugh, you're a game hopper, nothing satisfies you.

Add Aion to list of boycotted games with L4D2 and see if anyone cares...

lawl I'm going to enjoy the shit out of L4D2, suck to be you Lobo

 On the other hand, if we look at the glass as half full what do we get?

• A very stable game even under heavy load with a lot of player on screen
• A feature finished product (the ones that the developers promised are included)
• A different themed product (although still fantasy)
• Flying combat is just a perk for me, although it's something that's new
• World PvP at last, instead of battlegrounds
• Castle sieging that matters

Well, these are the major ones I can think of. For me it's a fresh of breath air, considering that the previous stable and feature complete game we got was LOTRO. And LOTRO offered less at launch.

Overall I'm optimistic due to the above. If Aion is a moderate success, it will prove beyond doubt that quality products both sell and retain subscriptions, as opposed to hyped and incomplete products.

This could be a medical condition. I suffer from the same thing as you....I am a MMO jumper....The first step of recovery is admitting it I know. I have tried all the free trials and plenty of payed subs. Just cant hold my attention. Hopefully MO fixes that :P

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Here is my two cents

In past few years my MMO addiction forced me to test,buy and play most every AA MMO released.

From SWG to WOW, from Vanguard to Potbs, From Lotro to Tabula Rasa, and from AOC to WAR...

Most of them I regret waisting my money on.

But each time a new MMO is release i fall into the hype ,  wishfull thinking and I cave in and buy.

I must say I am happy this is absolutely not case with Aion.

 

Watching clips about Aion , and reading about it - makes me want to mentally vomit.

 

4 years now we seen endless stream of WOW clones. And while all of them were pathetic in their own right.

At least they tried to do something original. And WoW did this?? What about EQ , UO , FFXI seems like WoW is the clone here !!!

But what is Aion ? How does it stand out from the crowd?

WINGS!

Yes. You want to know about aion ?

Well you know its like WOW, but you get wings.

And the graphic is better.

 

I can not blame NCsoft for trying. They have money and will to make sucesfull MMO.

And they want to have a sure shot. And what can be more sure than generic clone 101 of a game that captured millions.

 

For the sake of you that are going to buy this game.

I just hope Aion is damn good. And polished as diamond.

Cause where is the logic of buying a copy that is worse than original ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Look just because WoW was your 1st MMO does not mean EVERY MMO out there is a clone. Almost like saying Toyota is a clone of evey other car out there. It has 4 tires and an engien must be the same as a Chevy , Ford , Dodge ect ...... I play Aion because it is something different. Change is good. If you do not like it then do not play very simple !
 

Honestly, I loved WoW. I had a lot of good times playing WoW. But I am just over it now, I need a different setting and different factions.

It does not bother me if Aion will be similar to WoW's gameplay, because WoW's gameplay is really entertaining/addicting.

 You should take a break from MMOs (my post is considering you are not someone just doing some random trolling on Aion, although "WoW clone" is a pretty unoriginal troll statement). Maybe even from RPGs as a whole.

RPGs are about the imersion, you need to feel yourself within the lore, as a character inside the game world. As you failed to see this in a completely new IP, I repeat my recomendation, take a break from RPGs.

Every fantasy MMORPG will have similar mechanics (there are not perfectly detailed, just a general idea):

- Levels/skill levels, and killing monsters, completing quests or investing time repeating other things in order to achieve the level cap or that skill cap.

- PvE, you kill AI-controlled monsters with different skins and stats and that's it, it can be shown in the form of solo content or group content (usually the high-end content for max-level players are instanced dungeons aka raids in WoW, which doesn't mean you cannot see world bosses, epic quest lines, working for NPC controlled factions aka reputation). 

- PvP, you kill other players from opposing races/factions (or even team-kill or player-kill same race/faction players). You can see this in world PvP, random killing or battling for some key objective, also can be seen in the form of instanced PvP (aka battlegrounds in WoW).

- Rewards and lore, that's what gives the incentive. You want to know more, become stronger, it doesn't mater, that's the immersion that makes you have fun even though you know all these concepts mentioned above.

World of Warcraft is just another game of the fantasy MMORPG genre, it is not the formula or the genre.

Originally posted by Ephimero

Your MMO addiction? Dont make me laugh, you're a game hopper, nothing satisfies you.

.

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Here is my two cents

In past few years my MMO addiction forced me to test,buy and play most every AA MMO released.

From SWG to WOW, from Vanguard to Potbs, From Lotro to Tabula Rasa, and from AOC to WAR...

Most of them I regret waisting my money on.

But each time a new MMO is release i fall into the hype ,  wishfull thinking and I cave in and buy.

I must say I am happy this is absolutely not case with Aion.

 

Watching clips about Aion , and reading about it - makes me want to mentally vomit.

 

4 years now we seen endless stream of WOW clones. And while all of them were pathetic in their own right.

At least they tried to do something original.

But what is Aion ? How does it stand out from the crowd?

WINGS!

Yes. You want to know about aion ?

Well you know its like WOW, but you get wings.

And the graphic is better.

 

I can not blame NCsoft for trying. They have money and will to make sucesfull MMO.

And they want to have a sure shot. And what can be more sure than generic clone 101 of a game that captured millions.

 

For the sake of you that are going to buy this game.

I just hope Aion is damn good. And polished as diamond.

Cause where is the logic of buying a copy that is worse than original ?

 

 

  

 

 

Well, several thoughts.

One there is very little that is completely original.

Music? Nope. sorry All the music you listen to sits on the same features, rhythms, keys time signatures, whatever that have been used over and over.

Books? Plays? Movies? There is something like 6 or 7 basic stories and/or plots.

None of this is really orginal.

What is original is the retelling, how one puts their own spin on what has gone before.

For all I hear about LOTRO or warhammer or now even Aion being a WoW clone, well they aren't.

They might incorporate a similar interface (which in my opinion is a good thing, imagine if every car you bought had a different set of controls to work it or that every TV had some different way to interface with it?) and might use quests and might even have similar ways of advancing the character, but in no way playing these games do I feel that I am playing a clone in the strict sense of the word.

Secondly, players have a very myopic view of the genre. UO will feel different to Everquest and everquest will be different from WoW and WoW will be different from the new Star Wars game.

However, because it takes many years to create these games, the forward advancement (if you want to use a term) will seem glacial.

It's like you growing up in the same area and at adulthood you look around and say "god, things really haven't changed". When the reality is that where you lived is significantly different than 50 years prior and 50 prior to that all the way back hundreds of thousands of years. But we are only privy to a small slice. of what is going on. It's like being a Geologist and noting "radical changes" except the chunks of those changes take place over thousands of years.

These games are changing. But it's not like you are going to get radical changes every 6 months. There are many factors that lend to this, technology, develpoment time, funding, market trends, etc.

And in the end, people are people. You could sit down right now, envision the most radically different game and pull out your millions of dollars and in the end, people will either like it or they won't. If it is really radical, chances are you will only have a handful of players who care.

In addition, I constantly see players screaming for something new and different from "wow clones" but when I read what they want it seems like they just want Original UO with better graphics.

The genre is at a very young age. Remember, there was a time you would just get in game and grind. Then quests but the quests involved a lot of camping, rare spawns, etc. Now the quests are faster and easier but because of the nature of them they tend to be restrictive. Now Bioware is incorporating greater story elements but that also precludes some standard things (or might) that mmo's would have like just grabbing clannies and grinding and talking.

Things are changing but they are changing in very small and very deliberate ways. One only needs to take a step back and truly look at the grand scope of it all and not obsess about the small stuff.

Also, if Aion was a WoW clone then anyone who hated WoW would not want to play it.

Though I liked WoW it never really did anything for me. The character I made at launch and played a little here and there only ever made it to lvl 36 or so. But Aion is different enough for me that  it draws me in. So there must be something different. It's not all different but it doesn't have to be.

Same with LOTRO. I played LOTRO far longer than WoW in terms of hours played. But even with LOTRO there were always things missing for me.

So they really aren't clones but they are games that are created with certain design elements in mind.

Lastly, I think there is a breed of players who want some sort of mythical game that caters to everything that they want and they spend their time just going from game to game never really finding it. It's like people and relationships. They have in their mind the exact person they want to date but they never really find that person because realistically no person can ever live up to their expectations and imagination.

I think players need to play what is fun and if nothing is fun then move on until something comes out that is appealing.

It just seems that too many players have pinned to much on some fabled "new" game that really won't ever come out or if it does it will be years down the line.

To cut down on quote trains I won't quote you Sovrath, just wanted to say that was an excellent post!