Originally posted by szsleepy

And the first stage of many twelve step addiction programs is Denial.  I'm done with this conversation.  You go ahead and rationalize your addiction like I did for so many years.  SOME DAY, you will break free, uninstall, and realize the truth of my words.

Whoa there Mr. Holier-than-thou.

First off, there is a difference between mental addiction and physical chemical dependency. 

Secondly, quitting a game is not an impressive feat.  Go out there and achieve something noteworthy, that way you have some kind of an excuse for being arrogant.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by szsleepy

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by szsleepy

I'm so glad to have NOT played WoW seriously since patch 2.4.   From this standpoint, I can objectively look at the game.  I've broken free of the addiction.  In fact, empowered with that knowledge and perspective, I was able to uninstall the game completely from my computer several months ago.   No traces of WoW.exe here.

And for that, I'm infinitely grateful.

 

I no longer play World of WarCRACK.

 

Good for you. But addiction to games is the same as addiction to viewing football or cycling or doing any other single purpose social activity.

Addiction to games is not the same as fysical addiction to drugs (lucliky).  Those who put this in the same basket are deluding.

Behaviour is one thing, fysical addiction is a complete other thing.

 

And not being able to spell "physical" is yet even another complete thing.

As my naitve LANGUAGES are Dutch, French AND German (as I live in Belgium) and I type without a spelling checker, I can really say I make some very good posts in the 4th language

:))))

You know there are MORE people in the world than you think.

Going on vacation without your PHysical drug is even dangerous (depending on the drug). No one bangs his head against the wall if they can't play Wow when they're on vacation.

It is an insult to people suffering from real drug addiction like heroine, when you compare a social single focused behaviour with such forms of PHysical drug addiction.

 

I am going to have to disagree with this.

My buddy (true story) physically left our home state 5 days ago on a 2 week trip to Florida for Disney. He went with his wife, and 2 sons.

What did my buddy take with him. Cloths, check, socks, check, underwear, check, toothbrush, check, laptop, check.

He stopped by my house literally 2 hours before the trip to pick up MY copy of WotLK.

He lost his but "needed" it before he left.

The next day I get a call on my cell to help him setup his wi-fi from his hotel room because he had successfully installed his "WotLK".

2 week vacation that was intended to be a trip to Disney to spend time with his wife and 2 sons, ends up being a 2 week waste of money for him to sit in a very expensive hotel room to raid with his imaginary friends.

Addiction REALLY is addiction.

WoW if you choose to admit it or not, for most people, IS an A-D-D-I-C-T-I-O-N.

Originally posted by skydragonren

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by szsleepy

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by szsleepy

I'm so glad to have NOT played WoW seriously since patch 2.4.   From this standpoint, I can objectively look at the game.  I've broken free of the addiction.  In fact, empowered with that knowledge and perspective, I was able to uninstall the game completely from my computer several months ago.   No traces of WoW.exe here.

And for that, I'm infinitely grateful.

 

I no longer play World of WarCRACK.

 

Good for you. But addiction to games is the same as addiction to viewing football or cycling or doing any other single purpose social activity.

Addiction to games is not the same as fysical addiction to drugs (lucliky).  Those who put this in the same basket are deluding.

Behaviour is one thing, fysical addiction is a complete other thing.

 

And not being able to spell "physical" is yet even another complete thing.

As my naitve LANGUAGES are Dutch, French AND German (as I live in Belgium) and I type without a spelling checker, I can really say I make some very good posts in the 4th language

:))))

You know there are MORE people in the world than you think.

Going on vacation without your PHysical drug is even dangerous (depending on the drug). No one bangs his head against the wall if they can't play Wow when they're on vacation.

It is an insult to people suffering from real drug addiction like heroine, when you compare a social single focused behaviour with such forms of PHysical drug addiction.

 

 

I am going to have to disagree with this.

 

My buddy (true story) physically left our home state 5 days ago on a 2 week trip to Florida for Disney. He went with his wife, and 2 sons.

 

What did my buddy take with him. Cloths, check, socks, check, underwear, check, toothbrush, check, laptop, check.

He stopped by my house literally 2 hours before the trip to pick up MY copy of WotLK.

He lost his but "needed" it before he left.

The next day I get a call on my cell to help him setup his wi-fi from his hotel room because he had successfully installed his "WotLK".

2 week vacation that was intended to be a trip to Disney to spend time with his wife and 2 sons, ends up being a 2 week waste of money for him to sit in a very expensive hotel room to raid with his imaginary friends.

 

Addiction REALLY is addiction.

 

WoW if you choose to admit it or not, for most people, IS an A-D-D-I-C-T-I-O-N.

I agree.. it is addiction. Why else would people die out from a wow session a bit too long.. some people think these people are retards, others think they are morons. Some even claim they are irresponsible persons. But only those who are addicted know the truth. I blame blizzard. lets all sign an online petition and take this company doooooowwwwnnnn.....wtf... sorry i just had a brain fart.

I kinda of agree but then again I strongly disagree.

It has seemed slightly easier to play the game now than it did at the time of release, and even I do not see why Blizzard decided to turn their near-perfect RTS series into an MMORG, which I have no problem with, but yeah.

As for the expasion packs, I personally believed Blizzard released burning crusade because they needed money, I hated BC, and it made the game kind of stupid.

But, as for Wrath of the Lich King, thats sort of a pick-up of where Warcraft III left off. I also actually like this one, its pretty fun, and I like the new things blizzard have added.

World of Warcraft is a pretty fun MMORG thats not to costly (Unless you get Battlechest, all 3 parts run about 70-80USD) with not so cheap but not-so-high monthly prices, even though my cheap ass uses prepaid cards. That has a playing ground of almost 12 million people (Which I think is way to fucking many, I enjoy online play, but not NoobScape Online)

Its probably one of if not the best MMO's out there, the graphics aren't anything like Oblivion and the Elitest community may piss you off, but if your like me, you should be able to sit back and enjoy the game without many problems, but WoW seems to have become like drugs in several peoples lives. I'd give it an 8/10 if I had to, but as you said, you believe with each expansion the game gets worse. I still disagree on, even though I HATE burning crusade. I think the game should be fine if they stay under 5 expansions, but if it gets above that, I might get a little pissed.

1st post, woot, registered just for this topic so, bye.

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Originally posted by szsleepy
I'm so glad to have NOT played WoW seriously since patch 2.4.   From this standpoint, I can objectively look at the game.  I've broken free of the addiction.  In fact, empowered with that knowledge and perspective, I was able to uninstall the game completely from my computer several months ago.   No traces of WoW.exe here.
And for that, I'm infinitely grateful.
 
I no longer play World of WarCRACK.

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Originally posted by Xiaoki

 

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Originally posted by szsleepy
I'm so glad to have NOT played WoW seriously since patch 2.4.   From this standpoint, I can objectively look at the game.  I've broken free of the addiction.  In fact, empowered with that knowledge and perspective, I was able to uninstall the game completely from my computer several months ago.   No traces of WoW.exe here.
And for that, I'm infinitely grateful.
 
I no longer play World of WarCRACK.

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You obviously havent broke free of your "addiction" if you are here still talking about WoW more than a year later.

 

So, because he talks about the game, he is still addicted?  Xiaoki, that was a pretty thoughtless statement.

Originally posted by Vrika

 The problem is that people on mmorpg.com represent the minority, and as a community we are completely wrong about what direction games like WoW should be developed.

I totally agree. We can whine about how much WoW sucks (I used to until WotLK) but the fact of the matter is that they really have put a lot of time into their content, whether its quality or just quantity can be debated. However, no matter what anybody here says, 12,000,000 subs will always speak louder than a handful of elitist mal-contents (myself included)

Originally posted by Vrika

 The problem is that people on mmorpg.com represent the minority, and as a community we are completely wrong about what direction games like WoW should be developed.

Wow..... I didnt expect a really intelligent, well thought out post on this thread!

I dont like that so many things in WoW have become so easy.... but Blizz is constantly adding more things to keep us busy.... which is good.  I'm much happier continuing to play one good MMO and not running out of things to do, then I would be going from one game to the next and doing more or less the same thing (level to cap and raid for a bit) over and over. 

Also, contrary to popular belief on these forums, WoW still offers plenty of challenge for those who look for it....   WoW is easy mode?  Try doing OS with 3 drakes up (without being rediculously over geared).....    then theres trying to full clear Ulduar 25.... gawd.    Not one guild on my server has even cleared Ulduar 10 yet.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Good for you. But addiction to games is the same as addiction to viewing football or cycling or doing any other single purpose social activity.

Addiction to games is not the same as physical addiction to drugs (lucliky).  Those who put this in the same basket are deluding.

Behaviour is one thing, physical addiction is a complete other thing.

Dont underastimate the addiction to an MMO as it has cost an aweful lot of relationships, reality loss

and even suicide.

Watching the footy dusnt even come close to game addiction

Originally posted by Leucrotta

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Good for you. But addiction to games is the same as addiction to viewing football or cycling or doing any other single purpose social activity.

Addiction to games is not the same as physical addiction to drugs (lucliky).  Those who put this in the same basket are deluding.

Behaviour is one thing, physical addiction is a complete other thing.

 

Dont underastimate the addiction to an MMO as it has cost an aweful lot of relationships, reality loss

and even suicide.

 

Watching the footy dusnt even come close to game addiction

Actually you're quite right, it's far worse than gaming. There is often alchohol and violence involved in sport fan confrontation where game fans just can't stop whining on forums. 

Originally posted by graggok

This game started out great and with each expansion pack it keep getting worse and worse.  But thats my opinion.

I agree and that is my experience.  Unsubbed last year due to dumbed down Xpac, resubbed last month, tried to keep playing to get to 80 and just can't.  Boring, not the same game anymore and not so much to look forward to at 80.

The WoW userbase has changed.  The players that used to be in my guild and on my buddy list have quit.  It seems be these terribad players who are new to the genre and can handle the game due to it being so dumbed down.  I just don't see those players sticking around long how the players used to in original WoW.

I guess its how you look at it. We all know they are making GREAT money.. and have something going on in the background. So.. no I think its all going the way they want it to go. All you do is get the masses WANTING something better, not so easy.. lol get them right where you want them and POOF.. put out the next one..

You want them to WANT to go for the NEW one.. not stay with the old. They dont have to lower mounts or lol anything to keep people playing WOW.. they still would be there. But if you KNOW whats coming.. you get them ready.  Something NCSoft didnt learn from the other MMO's it has. Aion is fun because it just to easy. So you get tons of people up front but in time wont stay. 

"Addiction" LMAO people will try to milk anything.. I'm  addicted to water, coffee, reading, speeding, lying, cheating, blah blah. There are some things in this world that are ADDICTING. That you just cant get free from. Saying WOW is like that.. you look really childish and foolish. If you THINK you are addicted to WOW.. nope thats not your problem.. look deaper .. and just grow up.. brake the DVD, delete the game and go on with life..LMAO.. funny