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  Oyjord

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Joined: 12/14/03
Posts: 319

 
6/21/09 1:37:41 PM#1

I've tried the past week fews in beta to like this game, but it's just not happening.  Here's why:

 

-the graphics are too "cutesy."  Everything has a soft glow to it, from the login screen to the actual environments.  Even the Asmodean (sp?) lands feel too Hello Kitty-ish.

-the mobs are also "cutesy."  Wheres the menace?  Killing cute little bunny-bear hybrids isn't very viscerally exciting.

-the combat animations are apocalyptic.  My dagger hits a mob and things EXPLODE!  Wow, what happen when I'm level 20 and I hit a mob with my dagger?  The nearby village detonates?

-the sounds effects are "cutsey."  When you click on damn near anything, you hear a little "twinkle" effect.  From NPC givers to loot, I constantly hear Mario gathering stars.  (Oh, not to mention the choral music in the beginning which is simply dreadful and music I think I heard 10 years ago in a Final Fantasy game).

-the battle/combat sounds are hilariously bad.  Every time my female scout take damage, I hear a 5 yr old child scrape her knee.  Again, where's the grit, the menace, where's the fact that I'M FIGHTING, not picking flowers?

 

Sorry, but these are all deal-breakers.  You can add a good story onto this (which btw, I didn't see), you can add flying onto this (nothing new here, AO let you do this, what, almost 10 years ago?), you can add PvP on top of this (what, to hear LOTS of 5 yr old girls scraping their knees)...but the game will still look and sound the same. 

There is almost NOTHING I liked about UO, EQ, DAOC, AO, AC, WoW,, you name it, there is almost NOTHING aesthetically in common in Aion with those great games of the past

No thanks, Aion, I outgrew Link and Mario and Princess Peach's cuteness 20 years ago.

  User Deleted
6/21/09 1:50:03 PM#2

There's hundreds of MMOs out there, so you'll eventually find one you like.

Have you tried Requim:Bloodymare? Maybe DAoC?

 

  Ephimero

Novice Member

Joined: 10/18/06
Posts: 1875

6/21/09 1:53:18 PM#3
Originally posted by Oyjord

I've tried the past week fews in beta to like this game, but it's just not happening.  Here's why:

 

-the graphics are too "cutesy."  Everything has a soft glow to it, from the login screen to the actual environments.  Even the Asmodean (sp?) lands feel too Hello Kitty-ish.

-the mobs are also "cutesy."  Wheres the menace?  Killing cute little bunny-bear hybrids isn't very viscerally exciting.

-the combat animations are apocalyptic.  My dagger hits a mob and things EXPLODE!  Wow, what happen when I'm level 20 and I hit a mob with my dagger?  The nearby village detonates?

-the sounds effects are "cutsey."  When you click on damn near anything, you hear a little "twinkle" effect.  From NPC givers to loot, I constantly hear Mario gathering stars.  (Oh, not to mention the choral music in the beginning which is simply dreadful and music I think I heard 10 years ago in a Final Fantasy game).

-the battle/combat sounds are hilariously bad.  Every time my female scout take damage, I hear a 5 yr old child scrape her knee.  Again, where's the grit, the menace, where's the fact that I'M FIGHTING, not picking flowers?

 

Sorry, but these are all deal-breakers.  You can add a good story onto this (which btw, I didn't see), you can add flying onto this (nothing new here, AO let you do this, what, almost 10 years ago?), you can add PvP on top of this (what, to hear LOTS of 5 yr old girls scraping their knees)...but the game will still look and sound the same. 

There is almost NOTHING I liked about UO, EQ, DAOC, AO, AC, WoW,, you name it, there is almost NOTHING aesthetically in common in Aion with those great games of the past

No thanks, Aion, I outgrew Link and Mario and Princess Peach's cuteness 20 years ago.

 

Hope you realize that what you stated doesnt make the game bad, it makes the game bad for you, since all this you're talking about is your taste.

Honestly, I could care less about how level 1 mobs look or how my character grunts while Im using ventrilo.

  0guz

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/20/08
Posts: 288

6/21/09 1:59:42 PM#4
Originally posted by Ephimero
Originally posted by Oyjord

 

Hope you realize that what you stated doesnt make the game bad, it makes the game bad for you, since all this you're talking about is your taste.

Honestly, I could care less about how level 1 mobs look or how my character grunts while Im using ventrilo.

 

this

you ve only seen 1 lvl mobs that are cute as you said and generalized the game as most 1-10 beta tester did

congratz

  Hashbrick

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Joined: 4/12/05
Posts: 1240

Only jackasses label their PC specs in their sig.

6/21/09 2:01:14 PM#5

So it's too cutesy for your manliness? That's all I got out of it.


Originally posted by imbant

Did we say we were trying to do good for the game? the game is in the hands of aventurine, no one else...

  Valentina

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/28/06
Posts: 1452

6/21/09 2:07:24 PM#6
Originally posted by Oyjord

I've tried the past week fews in beta to like this game, but it's just not happening.  Here's why:

 

-the graphics are too "cutesy."  Everything has a soft glow to it, from the login screen to the actual environments.  Even the Asmodean (sp?) lands feel too Hello Kitty-ish.

-the mobs are also "cutesy."  Wheres the menace?  Killing cute little bunny-bear hybrids isn't very viscerally exciting.

-the combat animations are apocalyptic.  My dagger hits a mob and things EXPLODE!  Wow, what happen when I'm level 20 and I hit a mob with my dagger?  The nearby village detonates?

-the sounds effects are "cutsey."  When you click on damn near anything, you hear a little "twinkle" effect.  From NPC givers to loot, I constantly hear Mario gathering stars.  (Oh, not to mention the choral music in the beginning which is simply dreadful and music I think I heard 10 years ago in a Final Fantasy game).

-the battle/combat sounds are hilariously bad.  Every time my female scout take damage, I hear a 5 yr old child scrape her knee.  Again, where's the grit, the menace, where's the fact that I'M FIGHTING, not picking flowers?

 

Sorry, but these are all deal-breakers.  You can add a good story onto this (which btw, I didn't see), you can add flying onto this (nothing new here, AO let you do this, what, almost 10 years ago?), you can add PvP on top of this (what, to hear LOTS of 5 yr old girls scraping their knees)...but the game will still look and sound the same. 

There is almost NOTHING I liked about UO, EQ, DAOC, AO, AC, WoW,, you name it, there is almost NOTHING aesthetically in common in Aion with those great games of the past

No thanks, Aion, I outgrew Link and Mario and Princess Peach's cuteness 20 years ago.

 

Just letting you know that the sound effects for the american game are not yet implimented for our beta. We won't have the cutesy high pitched noises when the voice overs for our version is complete. What you are playing is 1.0, the very basic bare bones of the game levels 1-10. You won't get a good idea of the game until you play the full, localized version, which will give you a different perspective on some of your issues with the game.

Playing: Star Wars: The Old Republic, occasionally TERA.

Waiting For: Guild Wars 2, and Elder Scrolls Online.

  Ephimero

Novice Member

Joined: 10/18/06
Posts: 1875

6/21/09 2:18:18 PM#7


Originally posted by Stratford

Originally posted by bluedragonnn
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<Mod edit>


 
There's no criticism in "this game is bad because mobs look cuteish", that's called cherrypicking and its getting quite annoying in this forum.
 
I can already picture it, NCsoft devs decide to change the grunts because of complains, and people here come to say chars grunt like wow and this game is a wow clone because of that, thing is never being happy and focusing on small details of the gameplay in order to justify a prejudice.

  User Deleted
6/21/09 2:22:37 PM#8

For myself if the graphics are similar to GW i will be happey and as far as cute charaters my EQ2 Fae is very offended.  :) Not to mention my WOW gnomes although i havnt seen them in sometime im sure they take offense as well.

  feste

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/05/04
Posts: 30

6/21/09 2:30:59 PM#9
Originally posted by Valentina

 

Just letting you know that the sound effects for the american game are not yet implimented for our beta. We won't have the cutesy high pitched noises when the voice overs for our version is complete. What you are playing is 1.0, the very basic bare bones of the game levels 1-10. You won't get a good idea of the game until you play the full, localized version, which will give you a different perspective on some of your issues with the game.


 

Which raises the question, will this preorder beta test system weaken initial sales of the game?   Lifting the NDA and allowing full access to an experience that *should* change before the product is paid for might very well backfire.    While I can only speak for myself, I can merely cancel my preorder.  Isn't this a risky business proposition?  If not for the preorder Beta, I can guarantee I would have bought the game when it was released, earning my $45.  Now, that's an uncertainty.

  Rohn

Elite Member

Joined: 7/02/08
Posts: 2871

6/21/09 2:32:59 PM#10


Originally posted by Ephimero

Originally posted by Stratford

Originally posted by bluedragonnn
<Mod edit>


<Mod edit>


 
There's no criticism in "this game is bad because mobs look cuteish", that's called cherrypicking and its getting quite annoying in this forum.
 
I can already picture it, NCsoft devs decide to change the grunts because of complains, and people here come to say chars grunt like wow and this game is a wow clone because of that, thing is never being happy and focusing on small details of the gameplay in order to justify a prejudice.

 
I don't think you know what cherrypicking means.
In any event, the OP's criticisms are indeed a matter of taste.  Still, most issues in any MMO are about taste, unless they are talking about systems that simply don't work.  Even "working as intended" arguments end up being about taste.
Thicker skin.  Look into it if you plan to reside here.  Not everyone is going to adore and worship this game like you do.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  Ephimero

Novice Member

Joined: 10/18/06
Posts: 1875

6/21/09 2:40:18 PM#11


Originally posted by Rohn

Originally posted by Ephimero

Originally posted by Stratford

Originally posted by bluedragonnn
<Mod edit>


<Mod edit>


 
There's no criticism in "this game is bad because mobs look cuteish", that's called cherrypicking and its getting quite annoying in this forum.
 
I can already picture it, NCsoft devs decide to change the grunts because of complains, and people here come to say chars grunt like wow and this game is a wow clone because of that, thing is never being happy and focusing on small details of the gameplay in order to justify a prejudice.

 
I don't think you know what cherrypicking means.
In any event, the OP's criticisms are indeed a matter of taste.  Still, most issues in any MMO are about taste, unless they are talking about systems that simply don't work.  Even "working as intended" arguments end up being about taste.
Thicker skin.  Look into it if you plan to reside here.  Not everyone is going to adore and worship this game like you do.



I do understand what cherrypicking means, if I join a game without an open mind, im unsubconsciously searching for things to justify my previous decission, which was not to like said game.

Reviews like these show it perfectly, OP is cherrypicking certain game's features, then giving opinionated statements as facts in order to "prove" this game is bad.

If you enjoyed the review and found it fair or objective, I'd understand your argument with me in here, if you didn't, then I don't know why we're even discussing this.

  Swanea

Novice Member

Joined: 4/25/08
Posts: 2113

6/21/09 2:45:14 PM#12

While I love the graphics and gosh the music is AMAZING, I dunno about the game itself.  It seems just like another MMO.  The PvP while trying to level might be quite fun, but...eh I dunno. Just seems so meh.

  ghostinfinit

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Joined: 2/28/05
Posts: 548

"Pain is only weakness escaping the body"

6/21/09 2:47:00 PM#13

I half expected to open up this thread and see "It's a WOW clone"  man, was I let down.

  Rikimaru_X

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Posts: 11957

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6/21/09 2:47:28 PM#14

To cutesy? Ok walk out side and tell me some thing you see. Dogs...squirrells...cats...people...creatures. Go somewhere else you might see some deers, goats, a BEAR. No different than real wrold, the more you level and adventure your going to find some dark places and some very ugly and creepy things. I found banchess in this game to be as creepy (well a little) as witches in Left for Dead. Check my screenshots. Don't troll this place.

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  User Deleted
6/21/09 2:49:52 PM#15

For me a game is the sum of all the parts. Some play with headphones and chat all the time,  to me the music is important, to the chatter guys its not. Graphics are second only to game play for me ,others find graphics more or less important to them for enjoyment of said game. Point is, everything is considered, some things can be overlooked by certain people while other things cant. At the end of the day its the sum of all the parts that makes a game acceptable or not. The OP has a problem with "cutesy" so be it. Im just glad he gave his opinion, some will agree some will not. I like to see several different opinions on things then go ahead and make my decision.

  Rohn

Elite Member

Joined: 7/02/08
Posts: 2871

6/21/09 2:51:17 PM#16


Originally posted by Ephimero

Originally posted by Rohn

Originally posted by Ephimero

Originally posted by Stratford

Originally posted by bluedragonnn
<Mod edit>


<Mod edit>


 
There's no criticism in "this game is bad because mobs look cuteish", that's called cherrypicking and its getting quite annoying in this forum.
 
I can already picture it, NCsoft devs decide to change the grunts because of complains, and people here come to say chars grunt like wow and this game is a wow clone because of that, thing is never being happy and focusing on small details of the gameplay in order to justify a prejudice.

 
I don't think you know what cherrypicking means.
In any event, the OP's criticisms are indeed a matter of taste.  Still, most issues in any MMO are about taste, unless they are talking about systems that simply don't work.  Even "working as intended" arguments end up being about taste.
Thicker skin.  Look into it if you plan to reside here.  Not everyone is going to adore and worship this game like you do.



 
I do understand what cherrypicking means, if I join a game without an open mind, im unsubconsciously searching for things to justify my previous decission, which was not to like said game.
Reviews like these show it perfectly, OP is cherrypicking certain game's features, then giving opinionated statements as facts in order to "prove" this game is bad.
If you enjoyed the review and found it fair or objective, I'd understand your argument with me in here, if you didn't, then I don't know why we're even discussing this.


I read the review as the opinion of another person on a game. I can understand his point of view, and see where the cutseyness will be off-putting to some.

You appear to read it as a vicious attack on something you cherish, and kneejerk to the defensive.

Sure, the OP might have not been openminded in trying the game. Or, maybe he was.

One thing's pretty certain, you're not very openminded regarding other people's opinions if they don't march in lockstep with your own.

So, as I suggested, either open your own mind, or get thicker skin.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  Macamus

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Joined: 2/16/05
Posts: 135

6/21/09 2:51:19 PM#17
Originally posted by Oyjord

I've tried the past week fews in beta to like this game, but it's just not happening.  Here's why:

 

-the graphics are too "cutesy."  Everything has a soft glow to it, from the login screen to the actual environments.  Even the Asmodean (sp?) lands feel too Hello Kitty-ish.

-the mobs are also "cutesy."  Wheres the menace?  Killing cute little bunny-bear hybrids isn't very viscerally exciting.

-the combat animations are apocalyptic.  My dagger hits a mob and things EXPLODE!  Wow, what happen when I'm level 20 and I hit a mob with my dagger?  The nearby village detonates?

-the sounds effects are "cutsey."  When you click on damn near anything, you hear a little "twinkle" effect.  From NPC givers to loot, I constantly hear Mario gathering stars.  (Oh, not to mention the choral music in the beginning which is simply dreadful and music I think I heard 10 years ago in a Final Fantasy game).

-the battle/combat sounds are hilariously bad.  Every time my female scout take damage, I hear a 5 yr old child scrape her knee.  Again, where's the grit, the menace, where's the fact that I'M FIGHTING, not picking flowers?

 

Sorry, but these are all deal-breakers.  You can add a good story onto this (which btw, I didn't see), you can add flying onto this (nothing new here, AO let you do this, what, almost 10 years ago?), you can add PvP on top of this (what, to hear LOTS of 5 yr old girls scraping their knees)...but the game will still look and sound the same. 

There is almost NOTHING I liked about UO, EQ, DAOC, AO, AC, WoW,, you name it, there is almost NOTHING aesthetically in common in Aion with those great games of the past

No thanks, Aion, I outgrew Link and Mario and Princess Peach's cuteness 20 years ago.


 

God, seriousely, i cant do anything besides laughing my ass off, the dude claims "Aion is a bad game" because he personally doesnt like the animations and the sounds, yeah thats a really really good reason to vvhy the game is bad, because YOU dont fancy the graphics or the sounds :D Bravo! 

  stormious

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Joined: 9/14/05
Posts: 63

6/21/09 2:56:47 PM#18

Ehmm...

- The "cutesy" characters you are complaining about are few and low level. The higher level you get, the more vicious and mean-looking monsters you will fight. In the abyss you will be fighting dragonlike creatures and other mean things that definitely don't look "cutesy".

- The world is very colorful and bright. That's the look of the game. The abyss will be darker and more harsh, but will still be pretty colorful. The artdesign is not supposed to look like the games you mentioned because this is actually a different game (shocking, eh?)

- The animations are flashy. They don't increase much in flashyness as you progress. They are simply flashy from day one. Again, colorful and flashy animations is part of the game design. Up to the player to decide if you like it or not.

- Effects sounds can be turned off.

- You pick a character voice in character creation. Both male and female characters have their variations of voices ranging from "ultra cuteness that makes you cringe" to "harsh and roughly mature". Maybe next time you should choose a decent voice that suits you. Sort of makes me wonder why you choose to play a female character if you are so against cuteness...

The "grit" is swept clean in this game. The menace and hostility will be found in the abyss. Only you can decide whether you want to fight or pick flowers, as the game provides opportunities for both.

Aion is a different game aesthetically, and that's why you can't see similarities and it's up to personal taste whether you like it or not.

  Rohn

Elite Member

Joined: 7/02/08
Posts: 2871

6/21/09 2:57:19 PM#19
Originally posted by Macamus
Originally posted by Oyjord

I've tried the past week fews in beta to like this game, but it's just not happening.  Here's why:

 

-the graphics are too "cutesy."  Everything has a soft glow to it, from the login screen to the actual environments.  Even the Asmodean (sp?) lands feel too Hello Kitty-ish.

-the mobs are also "cutesy."  Wheres the menace?  Killing cute little bunny-bear hybrids isn't very viscerally exciting.

-the combat animations are apocalyptic.  My dagger hits a mob and things EXPLODE!  Wow, what happen when I'm level 20 and I hit a mob with my dagger?  The nearby village detonates?

-the sounds effects are "cutsey."  When you click on damn near anything, you hear a little "twinkle" effect.  From NPC givers to loot, I constantly hear Mario gathering stars.  (Oh, not to mention the choral music in the beginning which is simply dreadful and music I think I heard 10 years ago in a Final Fantasy game).

-the battle/combat sounds are hilariously bad.  Every time my female scout take damage, I hear a 5 yr old child scrape her knee.  Again, where's the grit, the menace, where's the fact that I'M FIGHTING, not picking flowers?

 

Sorry, but these are all deal-breakers.  You can add a good story onto this (which btw, I didn't see), you can add flying onto this (nothing new here, AO let you do this, what, almost 10 years ago?), you can add PvP on top of this (what, to hear LOTS of 5 yr old girls scraping their knees)...but the game will still look and sound the same. 

There is almost NOTHING I liked about UO, EQ, DAOC, AO, AC, WoW,, you name it, there is almost NOTHING aesthetically in common in Aion with those great games of the past

No thanks, Aion, I outgrew Link and Mario and Princess Peach's cuteness 20 years ago.


 

God, seriousely, i cant do anything besides laughing my ass off, the dude claims "Aion is a bad game" because he personally doesnt like the animations and the sounds, yeah thats a really really good reason to vvhy the game is bad, because YOU dont fancy the graphics or the sounds :D Bravo! 


 

It's probably as valid a reason as any for people to like or not like the game (people like movies and music based on similar criteria).

Also, he probably won't be alone in this opinion.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  thark

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Joined: 1/01/03
Posts: 740

6/21/09 3:03:37 PM#20

The OP has valid points, and this is as good reason as any other reason to NOT like Aion for "some" players...

I would also NOT like this game if it was to high on the "manga cute" style, I like to be immersed in the game world, a thing that would be to hard if the game always gave me the wrong signals.

I'm more of a dark fantasy kind of guy !!!


/junker

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