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Seriously, I mean really seriously!!! Just because its another Final Fantasy in the numbered lineup and not a standalone. Do we really need another single player Final Fantasy that bad since FFXI. Apparently all of these listed below that have been announced or released since FFXI launched is still not enough:
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GameTrailers Video announcing this! ~ {"A true Final Fantasy it isn't" they say!}
Yes I know, who cares what GameTrailers thinks....which is where I'm at, but out of all the other crap that was shown at E3 this year and they pick one of the most anticipated games/MMO ever! This is just really sad...
Watching others and found the "Best Online Game" Announcement and yeah Final Fantasy XIV isn't even listed! Again really sad...  |
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6/19/09 1:47:56 AM#2
You see most FF players are not mmorpg players and dont get the idea of the mmorpg(yet), i know allot of FF players who are not heppy about 11 aswell >.> |
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Yeah I do remember the backlash that FFXI had to endure and still kinda does from some people, but still... There are what though; over 60 titles in the Final Fantasy world and only 2 are online. |
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6/19/09 4:29:04 AM#4
Who cares what the western media says about jrpgs in general. I am tired of hell hearing about how the JRPG needs to advance, or change battle systems, or the plots are cliched, etc. Every freaking FPS has the same damn battle system that has been around since wolfenstien, but they never say it needs to evolve. And seriously, it can't, that is what makes it an FPS. 3rd person shooters, same thing, they have their own style of play that has been around forever. Same with platformers, etc. Also, FPS games have crap stories, so do 3rd person and shooters. But, all these genres get free passes, but the JRPG gets hounded. They will stroke the western RPG all night long, even though, I find that an open world, or mutliple dialogue choices, doesn't really make for a great story. Am I surprised they bagged on FFXIV? Not at all. Gametrailers mainly only deals with games that are hyped, and typically western. If its a western MMO, they will love it, but, being FFXIV is jap, they could care less, and equate it with a grind fest (which, evidently, is what every single mmo is anyways). |
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6/19/09 7:35:16 AM#5
Well it really wasn't a big presentation. We all knew SE was working on an MMO (Rapture). So they just confirmed rapture was an FF MMO and gave a cinematic. If they had given real game footage like the UI, combat, and talked about game features and their ideas behind the game, it would have been voted much higher. |
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6/19/09 8:35:27 AM#6
They are idiots. |
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6/19/09 10:55:33 AM#7
Yeah, I don't understand the hate for FF either. I've seen it from friends who play mmo's. I've seen hate for FFXI from friends who play console FFs and don't like the idea of a monthly fee. People for some reason really like to hate on FF. I can't figure it out. Oh well, their loss. |
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6/19/09 11:54:26 AM#8
What I find funny is that people say that FF doesn't make a good online game, but when you really look at it FFXI plays just like the offline games. In all the other FFs you play in a party, do quests, and grind xp. FFXI just has other people control the other characters in your party. All other FFs are just single player MMOs. Honestly, FFXII made me mad because I couldn't do a lot of the stuff that I could do in FFXI. |
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DillingerEP
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6/19/09 1:26:08 PM#9
I'm gonna have to agree with ignorance aspect of this. To many FF fanboy's only know the traditional games, and i know some buddies back before FFXI release. Thought that the idea of making FFXI would kill the whole franchise for them. Cause seriously the nerve of Squeenix making a awesome online game... thats FF. I don't get it, ... cause in a way i think most of them were just pissed off how long it took them to bring out the next traditional offline title FFXII, so they shat on FFXI every chance they got. |
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6/19/09 1:36:04 PM#10
Truth be told I am looking forward to 13 more than 14 |
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6/19/09 1:40:07 PM#11
Originally posted by ic0n67
FF IX was the last single player FF game I looked forward to and loved. X, XII, and spinoffs have been lackluster to me. XI was godlike, and 1-9 were all special experiences that I played through 1-3 times each at least. So XIII I will wait and maybe pickup when I get a ps3 for XIV. |
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DillingerEP
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Joined: 9/18/07
"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The ex- makes it sound cool." |
6/19/09 1:40:13 PM#12
Originally posted by ic0n67
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6/19/09 1:56:55 PM#13
I thought the Alan Wake showing was pretty good. Anyways, I think the "most disappointing" category was more popular than "best of show", so I guess the exposure was good. |
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6/19/09 2:00:12 PM#14
I am pretty sure it all had to do with the amount of information that was out there for FFXIV. Aside from that short cinematic nothing real concrete has been reveled. SW-TOR has a lot more information out there, a lot more details, already 3 classes confirmed and 2 other ones pretty much guaranteed (Jedi and Sith). I believe it was all in the amount of information and not the excitment of the crowds that decided the voting. |
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6/19/09 3:23:13 PM#15
Originally posted by andrewclear
Who cares what the western media says about jrpgs in general. I am tired of hell hearing about how the JRPG needs to advance, or change battle systems, or the plots are cliched, etc. Every freaking FPS has the same damn battle system that has been around since wolfenstien, but they never say it needs to evolve. And seriously, it can't, that is what makes it an FPS. 3rd person shooters, same thing, they have their own style of play that has been around forever. Same with platformers, etc. Also, FPS games have crap stories, so do 3rd person and shooters. But, all these genres get free passes, but the JRPG gets hounded. They will stroke the western RPG all night long, even though, I find that an open world, or mutliple dialogue choices, doesn't really make for a great story. Am I surprised they bagged on FFXIV? Not at all. Gametrailers mainly only deals with games that are hyped, and typically western. If its a western MMO, they will love it, but, being FFXIV is jap, they could care less, and equate it with a grind fest (which, evidently, is what every single mmo is anyways).
This dude knows whats going on. Good post, very blunt and to the point. I really cant add too much to this seeing as how you pretty much wraped it up. i agree 100% Deadpool(to "Daredevil): See how you like it when I smack you with an interspatial distorter that will temporarily phase your brain into Dimension X! "Daredevil": This is an ipod with a piece of masking tape attached to it. Deadpool: It is...Ah, but for a second there, you were really worried! "Daredevil": Idiot. |
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6/19/09 6:46:37 PM#16
I don't think its because they hate either FF and MMOs in general. For example SWTOR (which they played the demo at E3) was their favorite online game and its an MMO, and i'm pretty sure Gametrailers doesn't hate FF because they have made a 13 different video very long retrospective on the series praising it and almost every game in it, I just think they are dissapointed by the lack of information and realistically the best Final Fantasy storylines are found in the singleplayer ones. Originally FFXI had story/cutscenes over other mmorpgs to make it stand out but now with Bioware creating an MMO with full voice acting for every character in the game, cutscenes, dialogue/ quest options that branch to different options/consequences, it kind overshadows Final Fantasy XIV until we get more info to see how it will try to innovate the genre. |
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Originally posted by MMOPLAYER321
Really!? FFXI has one of the best stories over all the others in the series! FFIV is the best followed by FFVI IMO!
The story cutscenes still stand out as only a handful of others do it now, and personally I think FFXI does them way better. You don't need voice to make them better...most times it makes them worse! |
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6/19/09 9:38:31 PM#18
Gee... a gaming site is bagging on a Final Fantasy MMO announcement. ahh... damn.. nevermind. It's gone. |
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6/19/09 9:45:51 PM#19
I'll bet FFXIV is more entertaining then some of their single player offerings. I certainly liked FFXI a lot more then some of them. Titus is a bitch. FFX sucked. Yeah I said it. |
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Originally posted by jacobuj
No qualms here, I hated FFX...it was very poor and way to easy! |
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