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  Unfinished

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6/19/09 1:12:31 AM#1

forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

Quote from Tarib

"We initially had planned to have paid character transfers to all servers. But we took a closer look and also listened to feedback from players regarding some servers and their need to get more players to ensure better gameplay and a livelier community."

 

Free character transfers are possible to the following servers:

* Aries (German PvP)
* Ferox (French PvP)
* Zingara (Spanish PvE)
* Indomitus (Spanish PvP)

 

In most MMOs PvP players resent letting characters that were leveled on a PvE server join their ranks, dunno if it's still the case but WoW did not allow transfers from PvE to PvP servers because of the unfair leveling / gearing advantage.

 

The US Players aren't too happy that they have to pay for transfers. forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

 

  AmazingAvery

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6/19/09 1:38:51 AM#2
Originally posted by Unfinished

forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

Quote from Tarib

"We initially had planned to have paid character transfers to all servers. But we took a closer look and also listened to feedback from players regarding some servers and their need to get more players to ensure better gameplay and a livelier community."

 

Free character transfers are possible to the following servers:

* Aries (German PvP)
* Ferox (French PvP)
* Zingara (Spanish PvE)
* Indomitus (Spanish PvP)

 

In most MMOs PvP players resent letting characters that were leveled on a PvE server join their ranks, dunno if it's still the case but WoW did not allow transfers from PvE to PvP servers because of the unfair leveling / gearing advantage.

 

The US Players aren't too happy that they have to pay for transfers. forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

 


 

Age of Conan is not WoW. You have seperate gear with PvP statistics attached. You can not get this gear on PvE servers. How would a level 80 PvE guy have any advantage over a PvP guy same level same gear? How it is unfair to level a guy on a PvE server and xfer to a PvP server? When the server merges happend in the US how many complaining threads did we see about Xfers because of level.... Zero. Because the reality is it is just down to level just like any other game and somehow me thinks your trying to make a fuss.

EU English didn't have free character transfers. The free character transfers were only for specific languages like German, French and Spanish on specific servers. EU English and US (the two biggest) were treated as equals.

Paid services link has disappeared from the Account page. Why don't we all as players wait till further news is released about transfers.

Until then I can tell you from experience that quite a few of the servers I play on are well populated the times I play. If you want I can set a live stream up for your persual since you haven't logged in about 11months so you can get a better idea.(just trying to help like)

No all EU servers are 'hurtin' for example Polish and Russian are packed by all accounts :)

Here is your quote in full ( With the missing bits you left off ) for the benefit of EU players whom have not seen it yet.

As the first step for the new character transfer option, we will allow FREE transfers to four specific servers for two weeks. This option starts on 16th June and ends on 30th June.

We initially had planned to have paid character transfers to all servers. But we took a closer look and also listened to feedback from players regarding some servers and their need to get more players to ensure better gameplay and a livelier community. So we decided to first give players the possibility for a limited amount of time to transfer characters to a choice of four servers for FREE.

Free character transfers are possible to the following servers:
Aries (German PvP)
Ferox (French PvP)
Zingara (Spanish PvE)
Indomitus (Spanish PvP)

Players can access this free option over the account page at http://register.ageofconan.com . Players are limited to moving each character only once for free, so choose the new home of your characters wisely. Character transfers take 30 minutes to be processed and players must be logged out completely while their character is being transferred.

The PAID character transfer option will launch shortly after this free transfer offer to the above mentioned servers ends and it will allow transfer from any server to any other with the exception of the two servers Crom (EU English PvE) and Fury (EU English PvP) which already have a very large population. But this restriction might be looked at again when we see how the character transfers are going and we might also reconsider allowing transfer to those two servers a little further down the road.

Details including rules and costs for the paid character transfers will be made available closer to the end of June.
 


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  AmazingAvery

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6/19/09 1:43:34 AM#3

Another Tarib quote to swallow:

"Yes, like with most character transfer options in MMOs, there will be restrictions to transfer characters to the most populated servers. We had to decide on this to make sure those servers don't get too crowded. If we would allow a few players to move to those servers first and then have to close down that possibility shortly after the transfer option got available, we would end up with guilds being half transferred or friends moved over while the own character didn't quite make it before the close. And I am sure that this would not lead to very good reactions. So we are confident that this choice was the right one.

And our fresh start servers were getting along nicely but to make sure the population stays on a level where all players can enjoy the massively multiplayer aspect of the game, we want to allow other players to also move there.

Like mentioned in the announcement, we might reconsider the choices made for character transfers at a later stage after evaluating how the transfers are running and where players actually move to. But the current options are offered to provide the best possible solutions for both the players as well as making sure there's a healthy community and number of players on the servers."

I forgot how many different language servers there are in NA?


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  Unfinished

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6/19/09 2:16:32 AM#4
Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 How it is unfair to level a guy on a PvE server and xfer to a PvP server?

 

Do I really have to explain to you the difference of leveling on a PvP server??

Better yet re-rolll on a PvP server and see how fast you progress threw White Sands

 

Btw Avery you saw I posted the links to the original threads, so your famous cut and paste wall of text is once again redundant. even with angry green highlights.

 

  AmazingAvery

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6/19/09 2:34:47 AM#5
Originally posted by Unfinished
Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 How it is unfair to level a guy on a PvE server and xfer to a PvP server?

 

Do I really have to explain to you the difference of leveling on a PvP server??

Better yet re-rolll on a PvP server and see how fast you progress threw White Sands

 

Btw Avery you saw I posted the links to the original threads, so your famous cut and paste wall of text is once again redundant. even with angry green highlights.

 


 

Wait so you complain that leveling is too fast but in any game to move from one server to another in PvE to PvP is a bad thing and especially in a game like Age of Conan. If I remember you have not gained a PvP kill for exp, ever, right? Do you want me to explain AoC is not WoW again? Or is it just you, an ex player that has this problem, as I can't find what your saying is bad anywhere else or overwhelming to a point where it is a believable issue?

What about all that PvP experience a player will have, you know a lower level guy with PvP gear can stand ground with a high level guy. Heck, everyone knows that there can be vast differences of level between people in a fight and it can still be entertaining and prolonging. Why would a high level player go to a low level area?

You see I think the green bits are important so people get the full picture. Not the drama titled thread with an acute premise that is not the full story.

I recommend you try the trial and give it a go yourself, actually I think you are secretly playing, hence all the posts right?


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  User Deleted
6/19/09 2:34:51 AM#6
Originally posted by Unfinished

forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

Quote from Tarib

"We initially had planned to have paid character transfers to all servers. But we took a closer look and also listened to feedback from players regarding some servers and their need to get more players to ensure better gameplay and a livelier community."

 

Free character transfers are possible to the following servers:

* Aries (German PvP)
* Ferox (French PvP)
* Zingara (Spanish PvE)
* Indomitus (Spanish PvP)

If you think this is a surprise or news to anyone playing AoC your a bit late. After the merge loads of people moved from these servers to crom and fury, there was some people who didn't move and all they have said after the free transfer was up is that the population on the language specific servers were low. No wonder since from the german PvP server for instance there was atleast 3 whole guilds that transferred to fury alone, from the french and spanish it was atleast 2 whole guilds or so to fury. So the free character transfer is to try and tempt someone to move back, we all know AoC isn't the most populated game this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone really.

In most MMOs PvP players resent letting characters that were leveled on a PvE server join their ranks, dunno if it's still the case but WoW did not allow transfers from PvE to PvP servers because of the unfair leveling / gearing advantage.

Blizzard kept this point of view a while, but now there is full transfers from all kind of servers. There isn't really a advantage to level up on a PvE server compared to PvP. Since there isn't player loot drops, everyone has the chance to level up, however the difference from PvP and PvE is that PvE players do it in peace and quiet, whilst on PvP servers you have loads of PvP going on in all level brackets which can make leveling a hell at times. I would say if you plan to transfer to a PvP server the advantage lies with those who are familiar with the playstyle there rather then the ones who never have experienced it. Gear wise in AoC and WoW you could get the same gear on both servers if you had the guild who were capable of actually killing stuff.

The US Players aren't too happy that they have to pay for transfers. forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

The thread is interesting tho as it show's a severe lack of insight to why the EU servers getting these free transfers. if they think EU is geting free transfers all the time  they realy need to sit down and learn to read what Tarib wrote. But this type of QQ have been seen in all games that have announced paid character transfers, people want it to be a service that is free. Developers have found out that this type of service they can easy make money on. Look at blizzard who have taken it quite far with being able to change server/name/gender on your character.

 

 

  Unfinished

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6/19/09 2:45:45 AM#7
Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 If I remember you have not gained a PvP kill for exp, ever, right?

 

Wrong again,  they turned off the PvP right before the full retail launch and didn't turn it back on  till many months later.

 

  Barteaux

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6/19/09 3:34:50 AM#8

 

The US Players aren't too happy that they have to pay for transfers. forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

 


 

Say What!? They would rather have FREE transfers? Those cheeky americans!

On a more serious note, as already said, the free transfer is limited to the non-english language servers.

 

When it comes to your naming choice of this thread, it seems to reflect your wishes more than the actual state of server populations. I have seen a steady increase the last few months (Fury), and a marked increase the last two weeks. That players want to keep it this way is natural, hence the feedback that FC refers to.

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  Jackdog

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6/19/09 7:11:34 AM#9
Originally posted by Barteaux

 

The US Players aren't too happy that they have to pay for transfers. forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

 


 

Say What!? They would rather have FREE transfers? Those cheeky americans!

On a more serious note, as already said, the free transfer is limited to the non-english language servers.

 

When it comes to your naming choice of this thread, it seems to reflect your wishes more than the actual state of server populations. I have seen a steady increase the last few months (Fury), and a marked increase the last two weeks. That players want to keep it this way is natural, hence the feedback that FC refers to.


 

if all of these claims of growth were even half true the game would have a biiger population than WoW by now, this is like the 5000th one I have seen on here in the last 8 months so excuse me if I seem doubting

I miss DAoC

  Davit

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6/19/09 7:35:16 AM#10

English European servers have very healthy population. Some of them are even overpopulated. Therefore two most populated servers will be set only as "transfer from".
European character transfers will not be free same as in US. This first step is only for less populated language specific servers. Majority of people play at ENG servers.
Conan population is doing great. Intentions of those who say the opposite are not honest.


Originally posted by Jackdog
if all of these claims of growth were even half true the game would have a biiger population than WoW by now, this is like the 5000th one I have seen on here in the last 8 months so excuse me if I seem doubting

Your math is very questionable.

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6/19/09 7:40:07 AM#11
Originally posted by Davit

English European servers have very healthy population. Some of them are even overpopulated. Therefore two most populated servers will be set only as "transfer from".

European character transfers will not be free same as in US. This first step is only for less populated language specific servers. Majority of people play at ENG servers.

Conan population is doing great. Intentions of those who say the opposite are not honest.

 

I'm sorry but the word great isn't the word I would use on it, AoC population is doing ok at best, lets hope Patch 1.05 brings back some people. There is people ingame and stuff to fight and do, but I would be very careful with saying that AoC is doing great populationwise.

  Elsabolts

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6/19/09 7:51:12 AM#12

They the Devs and Fanbois have no compition when it comes to Hype. Its always gonna be in the next patch.

  Davit

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6/19/09 8:06:32 AM#13

Elsa, do you copy-paste this thing everywhere? : )

I am already burned out for AoC, but seen many new people comming to the game right now. Groups all the day, healthy economy, many guilds for various tastes. Lots of raiding, pvp. Can't really be more enjoyable, not missing any population.

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  Darth_Osor

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6/19/09 9:24:24 AM#14

Why are all these people wanting transfers if the pops are so great?  It's not to transfer off the "populated" servers to the dead ones.  I play on Wiccana (for another week), and I don't see these booming populations that I see the same 4 or 5 people here and on the official forums talking about.  I couldn't imagine playing on the Oceanic or Fresh Start servers.

  Elsabolts

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6/19/09 9:33:11 AM#15
Originally posted by Davit

Elsa, do you copy-paste this thing everywhere? : )

I am already burned out for AoC, but seen many new people comming to the game right now. Groups all the day, healthy economy, many guilds for various tastes. Lots of raiding, pvp. Can't really be more enjoyable, not missing any population.


 

Davit to answer your question honnestly I belived all the hype Funcom put out and spent $1133.72 to upgrade comp and buy collectors edition, 6month game card. I asked one question on the Funcom forums and got a permanent ban for asking it. The question was why did my collectors edition box say DX10 and yet it was not in game. I was not smart mouth just asked a question. When this happened i decided to fight back as i could and letting folks know how this company works will be what i do here until they send me $1133.72 or i feel ive goten my moneys worth here. It would seem im not the only one who has some problems with these folks.

  AmazingAvery

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6/19/09 11:54:06 AM#16
Originally posted by Darth_Osor

Why are all these people wanting transfers if the pops are so great?  It's not to transfer off the "populated" servers to the dead ones.  I play on Wiccana (for another week), and I don't see these booming populations that I see the same 4 or 5 people here and on the official forums talking about.  I couldn't imagine playing on the Oceanic or Fresh Start servers.


 

Thursday, last night 8pm MST, Wicanna, created new character, Tortage market by Thirsty Dog Inn, around 40 ppl just there chatting. Go to white sands plenty of folks there, get on higher character, look at Aztels, Pointain, and Thunder River, although not as many people there were an amount around nearly all over the zone which gave the impression things are pretty good.

Chat, "anyone doing Vistrix" 15 mins later was a full PUG raid formed.

Similar experiences on Tyranny and Cimmeria.

Not to mention the Trial Chat Channel is packed. (with some crazies too)

No one has mentioned that the servers at the top are non English speaking servers, I wonder why.


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  Unfinished

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6/19/09 4:32:23 PM#17
Originally posted by AmazingAvery

No one has mentioned that the servers at the top are non English speaking servers, I wonder why.

 

What?? Title says Europe, the original post lists the servers with their languages, Crashloop mentioned it, Barteaux mentioned it, Davit mentioned it. Do you read threads before you post in them?

So what is your point ? Are you trying to say that Non-English speaking player communities aren't relevant? FunCom used to think so, they did go to the trouble of publishing the game as well as providing GM support in those languages.

 

 

 

  BarCrow

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6/19/09 5:17:04 PM#18
Originally posted by Unfinished
Originally posted by AmazingAvery

No one has mentioned that the servers at the top are non English speaking servers, I wonder why.

 

What?? Title says Europe, the original post lists the servers with their languages, Crashloop mentioned it, Barteaux mentioned it, Davit mentioned it. Do you read threads before you post in them?

So what is your point ? Are you trying to say that Non-English speaking player communities aren't relevant? FunCom used to think so, they did go to the trouble of publishing the game as well as providing GM support in those languages.

 

 

 

Were those 4 servers made especially so that players that speak the same languages can play on one server?....That's the way I took it...I could be incorrect. If this is the case then Non-english speaking players are NOT relevant to the point. I thought the point was the AoC pop was suffering and thus server mergers (again...i can be wrong...tell me I won't cry) ...but it seems ...from what I read...they are leveling out the crowded EU servers by offering 4 language specific servers for non- english speaking players to play with eachother,,and a free transfer as well..sounds like a good thing.

  Unfinished

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6/19/09 8:49:23 PM#19
Originally posted by BarCrow

Were those 4 servers made especially so that players that speak the same languages can play on one server?....That's the way I took it...I could be incorrect. If this is the case then Non-english speaking players are NOT relevant to the point. I thought the point was the AoC pop was suffering and thus server mergers (again...i can be wrong...tell me I won't cry) ...but it seems ...from what I read...they are leveling out the crowded EU servers by offering 4 language specific servers for non- english speaking players to play with eachother,,and a free transfer as well..sounds like a good thing.

 

Server Merges forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php   January 9th, 2009

    German 6 into 3 (1 pr ruleset), French 4 into 3 (1 pr ruleset), Spanish 2 un-changed (no RP ruleset)

 

Server Transfers forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php  January 21st, 2009

    Chance to get off of a Dead Server

 

Of those 8, 4 are now suffering from Low Population (3 are PvP, both Spanish are having a problem),  forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

 

Downside:  Hard to play End Game PvP without enough players. Upside: You don't ever need to re-take / re-build your Battle Keep

 


 

 

  Orphes

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6/20/09 6:05:27 AM#20
Originally posted by Unfinished
Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 How it is unfair to level a guy on a PvE server and xfer to a PvP server?

 

Do I really have to explain to you the difference of leveling on a PvP server??

Better yet re-rolll on a PvP server and see how fast you progress threw White Sands

 

Btw Avery you saw I posted the links to the original threads, so your famous cut and paste wall of text is once again redundant. even with angry green highlights.

 

 

The second character I made for WoW took me the equal amount of time to top level as people generally suggested, that was on a PvP server. But wait this was not WoW.

So what is the positive behind leveling on a PvE server that would make you have an advantage when moving to a PvP. Atleast I would actually like to see your view or explenation on it.

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