This game reminds me of Face of Mankind

Originally posted by Aiiane

All together now...

"who cares?"

The OP and your posting in his thread. :)

I think I have said this before, but please answer this question honestly:

What do I get $15.00/month?

6v6 action + Lobby + maybe a map where I can see my friends fighting but I cant enter?

Is GA is F2P I would troully love it (as it is)  I just cant trully justify the monthly of a multiplayer with glorified lobby

Is GA offer open RvR I would trully love it and I would not bash it and play gladly the monthly fee

Just $0.02 of GA.

Originally posted by madeux

How many players are required before it can be considered to be "massive"?

You better have more support than 64 players. Thats 32 vs 32 otherwise, its a Multiplayer fps. I know been playing fps's since Quake 1 and I've been in 64 player games like BF2142. 

Originally posted by Avathos

I think I have said this before, but please answer this question honestly:

What do I get $15.00/month?

6v6 action + Lobby + maybe a map where I can see my friends fighting but I cant enter?

 

Is GA is F2P I would troully love it (as it is)  I just cant trully justify the monthly of a multiplayer with glorified lobby

Is GA offer open RvR I would trully love it and I would not bash it and play gladly the monthly fee

 

Just $0.02 of GA.

If you dont like it then make like a tree.
 

No one is makeing you play the game, No one cares that you thing the matches are to small... It has more MMO then a lot of the games on here that claim to be MMO's so Who cares?

Plus I dont rember in Counterstrike or BF2142 or any other FPS haveing the map give resources or tech alowing you to "Domanate a region"

So yes its a MMO. heck its more of a MMO (Imho) than games like Wow where if you kill the Lich King 300 times in a day It does Nothing.  Who cares If Wow and War have Larger Pvp battles? they DO NOTHING!!!!! Ok in War you can raid the others city and annoy them.. Who cares in a day or so its back to normal.

In Eve I Don't go into Lowsec or Null sec But they Still touch my game. The way thay make it sound It will be the same here.

Im Tired of all the Stagnent MMO's out there. they are all pointless. Let the World change. Honestly is it that mutch to ask for?

Originally posted by Ekibiogami

Im Tired of all the Stagnent MMO's out there. they are all pointless. Let the World change. Honestly is it that mutch to ask for?

I agree completely. All we need in MMO's is change, and its people like the OP as well as many others that prevent that change from happening.
 

Is Global Agenda a "real" MMO? I've heard that Global Agenda has a lot of instancing and relatively small battles. Is the game a "real" MMO?
Global Agenda's unique fusion of shooter-based action, role-playing mechanics, and grand territorial strategy gameplay can make the game difficult to easily pigeonhole into a "classic" game genre. At Hi-Rez Studios, our number one objective is to bring a fresh, insanely fun game to market -- not necessarily to fit neatly into an existing category.

That said, however, the game has a broad set of features that MMO players have grown accustomed to and that are traditionally considered when discussing whether a game is a "true MMO."

These features include:

•Player vs Environment missions with boss fights (Does not make it an MMO)
•Player vs Player missions with different objective types (Does not make it an MMO)
•A large-scale, persistent territory control framework and Campaign (Sounds interresting please explain)
•Multiple character classes and subclasses (Does not make it an MMO)
•Character leveling and progression  (Does not make it an MMO)
•Skill trees (Does not make it an MMO)
•Social Hubs (So is MSN, AOL-CHAT, Arena NET, ETC (Does not make it an MMO)
•Achievements (Does not make it an MMO)
•Loot with various qualities (Does not make it an MMO)
•Blueprints and crafting (Does not make it an MMO)
•Economy and auction system (HMM YEAH)
•Gear upgrades (Does not make it an MMO)
•Alliances and Agencies (our version of "guilds"). (can all they all play in the same instance.... NOOOOOO)
•Grouping systems (for easily teaming with other players for mission)  (Does not make it an MMO)
•Character customization and dyes (Does not make it an MMO)
•Flair and seasonal items (Does not make it an MMO)
•Alliance/Agency/Group/Side/Team text chat (Does not make it an MMO)
•Integrated Voice Chat (Does not make it an MMO)
•Thirty+ different major weapons/devices for each class (Does not make it an MMO)

•Scores of character emotes (Does not make it an MMO)

•A "Raid" system that is part of the campaign system that allows coordinated teams of up to 60 persons (working inside up to 6 different strike teams) to simultaneously raid the enemy, working toward a common raid objective. (WTF THIS MEANS 60v60? IN ONE INSTANCE OR SREAD OUT IN DIFFERENT INSTANCES WITH A COMMON CHAT CHANNEL)

•Single server-shard per major geographic region -- meaning you can communicate with and compete with/against tens of thousands of other players. ( A GLORIFIED CHAT CHANNEL... LOL)

THE QUESTION IS SIMPLE: IS GA AN MMO?

THE ANSWER HOWEVER WAS NOT. EVEN THE PUBLOSHER KNOWS THIS IS NOT AN MMO.

My problem is not with global agenda. Persoanlly I have said this ton of times this game is going to be good and fun. HOWEVER IS NOT AN MMO...

Originally posted by Avathos

THE QUESTION IS SIMPLE: IS GA AN MMO?

THE ANSWER HOWEVER WAS NOT. EVEN THE PUBLOSHER KNOWS THIS IS NOT AN MMO.

My problem is not with global agenda. Persoanlly I have said this ton of times this game is going to be good and fun. HOWEVER IS NOT AN MMO...

Why Not? Its more of a MMO than a lot of games on this site?

If you dont like the system then Shoooo.

Im getting tired of Zergfests. This game isent one. I for one am pleased.

the game looks fun for small team combat with a point.  i would say thats a really good step for the people who enjoy games like tf2 counterstrike and UT.

but really... its not an mmo.  its a mofps.  hell if you want to claim having alot of people waiting to get into games makes you an mmo.... Team fortress 2 would be an mmo.

i like that they are giving the game a point. using your team work towards capping lots of the map.  (basically a tourny that resets) its cool, i just dont know if its worth my monthly fee.

If the game is actually any good, then id gladly pay a monthly sub for it, MMO or not. It has the elements of team based FPS with persistant characters and customisation and an emphasis on teamwork. Thats good enough for me, and id rather play it that yet another level up fantasy clone.

Looks to me like GA is as much an MMORPG as Guild Wars is.

Oh, wait, GW's isn't one.....according to the games own Devs

But it doesn't really matter, will it be fun, that's all I care about.

This game will give me lulz

In my mind the difference between a game being a MMO and just a MOG (massive online game) is that in an MMO you're in the game world 100% of the time and in a MOG you switch back and forth between a chat room and the game world. The total immersion in the game world being the difference between the two.

its an mmo, straight forward.

I played it at E3 and in CBT1 and the way I  fealt about my character and the feel of the game was exactly an mmo.

Doing challenging group pve missions is just one of the reason.

im gonna have to try this game when it comes out.  I love the premise to this game; to fight against a totalitarian world government, it gives it a feel that rivals huxley (the mmofps), yet synonomous... brave new world.  What would make things even more creepier is if they had Aldous Huxley repeat some of his remarks pve quest-wise in both games.  

-- "I nuke my metal eggs in the morning with my modifyed microwave oven turned EMP weapon" -- a distant yet unsurprised citizen of a system foreseen

Agreed, this is more like guild wars w/o the messy world map to PVE in.

Certainly not a traditional MMORPG model, but that doesn't meant it won't be fun.

People who love FPS games should thrill to it but those looking for more of a virtual world experience certainly are looking in the wrong place.

This game has nothing massive. It's kind of the tombs in guildwars, you play match after match and voilà. Is it enough to add an auctin house to claim a subscription ? I'm not sure.

The real MMOFPS that people is waiting for would be a planetside on steroids. With a revamped network code. 100 vs 100 with no lag and bullets and shells everywhere. This is massive, this is persistent.

8 vs 8... MMO ? no.

Originally posted by Avathos

Thanks for the confirmation.

Global Agenda will be a great INSTANCED multiplayer. I will still try it, but to be honest I am still looking for MMOFPS that offers true OPEN RVR.

I define Open RvR with at least 200 vs 200 like Planetside attempted to do and warhammer achieved.

 

This is nothing personal against Global Agenda, Huxley, Combat Arms , etc. They are or will be AWESOME games but they are not MMO by definition.

 

For example:

Diablo I, II, Global Agenda, Combat Arms, CCS, Huxley  etc (INCREDIBLE mutliplayer  BUT NOT AN MMO)

Everquest I and II, WOW,  Warhammer Online, even Maplestory  are TRUE MMOS

 

My point is that just because a game can get ton of people in lobby or in ladders doesnt make it an MMO. A true MMO is when you get a considerable amount people battle, play, or even chat through the whole world.

 

I cant wait till PS-2 and I hope that SW:TOR and WARHAMMER 40K live to be ture MMOs with Open RvR and PvE.

 

 

 

 

 

Warhammer achieved nothing - Aion will absolutely bury it.

The OP has a point. The only reason they are calling it an MMO is to justify the $15/mth other than that there is nothing MMO about it, maybe a lobby dressed up as a fancy city, extensive character customizations (passed off as rpg these days).

Not saying GA won't be a good game-it'll be fine but it's like having to pay for the full game then another  $15.00/mth for say CoD4 or TF2 (a pay-once game that to this day is still getting free content updates) when there is really nothing to justify it being subscription based. Hence the liberal use of the term MMO to lump it together with other subscription based games, some of which fit that model and some don't.

I mean if people want to pay $15/mth for what is essentially a variation of a multipllayer FPS that's their perogative but when there are other choices that can offer that FPS fix and not charge you a monthly fee it's a tough sell.

HiRez studio is hosting the server, does that not make the monthly fee make sense? You still need to pay for a server in TF2 or L4D, the difference is the guys who made the game are taking the extra time to make sure the game play quality remains enjoyable and with low ping. Plus the ongoing free content they promise.

Not to mention the 45 day campain thing, the in-game guild system, the PvE, Crafting, armor and weapon dyes, Skill trees, leveling, over 100 sets of armor already completed, etc. etc. All shooters have all that stuff for sure.

The fun factor alone is worth the price if you ask me, but that's just some internet dude's opinion.