Originally posted by Jynxor

Same old game with new graphics eh?  I liked when they said the game will have more of a sci-fi slant on it like FFVII and FFXIII.  I'm all for that.  Getting tired of the fantasy/ fantasy mmos.  Needs more sci-fi/ fantasy.

Go see SW:TOR.com

Originally posted by Proximo521

Originally posted by Jynxor

Same old game with new graphics eh?  I liked when they said the game will have more of a sci-fi slant on it like FFVII and FFXIII.  I'm all for that.  Getting tired of the fantasy/ fantasy mmos.  Needs more sci-fi/ fantasy.

 

Go see SW:TOR.com

Yeah I can't wait.

Originally posted by Jynxor

Same old game with new graphics eh?  I liked when they said the game will have more of a sci-fi slant on it like FFVII and FFXIII.  I'm all for that.  Getting tired of the fantasy/ fantasy mmos.  Needs more sci-fi/ fantasy.

I hope it has very little SCI FI, if I wanted to play SCI FI I would Play EvE online.

I hope the sci fi they refere to is in the form of gun shooting flying towers :)

Originally posted by Stuckov

Originally posted by Jynxor

Same old game with new graphics eh?  I liked when they said the game will have more of a sci-fi slant on it like FFVII and FFXIII.  I'm all for that.  Getting tired of the fantasy/ fantasy mmos.  Needs more sci-fi/ fantasy.

 

I hope it has very little SCI FI, if I wanted to play SCI FI I would Play EvE online.

 

I hope the sci fi they refere to is in the form of gun shooting flying towers :)

Nah, I don't think it'll be Star Trek-type sci-fi.  Just enough that it doesn't look too medieval.   Like how FFVII and FFXIII is (can probably put FFVIII in there too).  This time you can have actual robots instead of cardians. 

"I hope the sci fi they refere to is in the form of gun shooting flying towers :)"

I meant the same towers you see in the cinematic they released :)

Yeah, the sci-fi meets fantasy towers.  With the magic and technology intertwined.

Yeah it wont be that bad, you can see the drawing on the offical website. It's not like it's going to be like FFXIII or anything.

Well if that stilt city from the Rapture vid is in FFXIV, then that should be an indication of how it could look.  It has a new look, but still looks fantastical at the same time.

Originally posted by Punkre

Their is an old saying trick me once shame on you, trick me twice shame on me.

 

This holds true with MMOs, if this was being developed by a different game company or a different team of Square Enix I would say go for it, but its not. This is the same game company that made the failure of that was FFXI, if you liked FFXI you will like FFXIV that much will be sure.

They will tweak the game a bit, better graphics, maybe increase some solo ability but its gonna be the same, game companies don't change over night, (well not without a massive merger or restructuring of the company from the ground up.)

Which is why I don't understand all the hype for this game, they might as well have stated they were going to make FFXI-part 2 and it would of said the same thing, only now they get to make up a completely different story for a world that doesn't make sense. On top of this the races look the same, which is argueably one of Sq-Enix biggest flaws with FFXI, No playable Moogles, No wolf men from FFV, No ancients/Centra, (or what ever their name was from FFXIII.)

Let players play their favorite races from past FFs, thats the reason so many people hated SW:G, no one could be a Jedi, then every one was a Jedi and it was just lame because all the other classes sucked. Imagine a FF MMO where you could be a Red XIII race or a Black mage race (similar to Vivi from FFIX.)

 

Final Fantasy games had always had so many races in each game that its silly to have such a limited race selection that are from non of the previous games.

 

I hope your right!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFXI is far from a failure tho, I dont know what you base it off of( I bet I could guess it on the first try), however SE has said FFXI has been extremely profitable for them.

Originally posted by Punkre

Their is an old saying trick me once shame on you, trick me twice shame on me.

 

This holds true with MMOs, if this was being developed by a different game company or a different team of Square Enix I would say go for it, but its not. This is the same game company that made the failure of that was FFXI, if you liked FFXI you will like FFXIV that much will be sure.

They will tweak the game a bit, better graphics, maybe increase some solo ability but its gonna be the same, game companies don't change over night, (well not without a massive merger or restructuring of the company from the ground up.)

Which is why I don't understand all the hype for this game, they might as well have stated they were going to make FFXI-part 2 and it would of said the same thing, only now they get to make up a completely different story for a world that doesn't make sense. On top of this the races look the same, which is argueably one of Sq-Enix biggest flaws with FFXI, No playable Moogles, No wolf men from FFV, No ancients/Centra, (or what ever their name was from FFXIII.)

Let players play their favorite races from past FFs, thats the reason so many people hated SW:G, no one could be a Jedi, then every one was a Jedi and it was just lame because all the other classes sucked. Imagine a FF MMO where you could be a Red XIII race or a Black mage race (similar to Vivi from FFIX.)

 

Final Fantasy games had always had so many races in each game that its silly to have such a limited race selection that are from non of the previous games.

 

Hmm, how do you know it will be like the former mmo ffxI? No information that could really tell us that much.. and i guess you have seen as much as everybody else.. Il tested the ffxi and i liked it in some ways.. they wanted uss to play with the old world style and we got what we was looking for.. Well the lack of speed killed it.. But WHY do you blame them for trying do another mmo... there is just 1 company who had really succed in that type of genre and that was the right game at the right time.. And i think you know what im thinking about.. But that was 80% luck that so many people did not yet had tryed 1 single mmo so far.. So i think people who like quite slow mmo with console style and a new fresh ff world with some speed in it will totaly dig this upcoming mmo! and btw.. its under construcion so you cannot really say anything that states that you kind of know any of the small things u just said.. like play with moogle.. how do you know? 

[They didn't update the combat system till FF12]

This shows how little you played FF games, or in that part enjoyed it.... There was no reason whatsoever to even change the combat system, people that played the games all bought it.. because they liked how it worked along with good stories along with it.  I played most Final Fantasy starting from 4 and i must say that even the fighting system was almost the same with just minor tweaks here and there, i enjoyed every game of it, merely because THAT playstyle was and is one of the reasons i enjoyed playing the FF games...

Final fantasy 11 was a nice game when it started, it also ended up to be the MMO with a lot of worked out classes. (15)

The biggest reason FF11 didnt hit the records more then it has (which in this case it did really well) is that the payment methods where limited.. if i remember right (dont flame if im wrong) is that you can only pay trough creditcard .. (or at least when i played it a few years ago ^_^ )

Not every1 has these, if they would add a gamecard and paypal they will easily take a bigger croud then they have.. if you check the normal final fantasy games they always had games with beautifull graphic design, the fact that FF11 got behind with the some older graphic engine isnt something they could have guessed when all the sudden WoW got released with a diffrent graphic set..

if they make some changes in FF14 like more payment methods, newer graphic engine, and a few tricks here and there... this game will be a game that will hit millions within the first few months.

I think it's best to save energy at this point. These types of threads will be a lot more common once the game is about to launch.

But honestly, I have friends that bad mouth almost every single Final Fantasy game after FFVI and FFVII, which they loved to no end. They ended up playing almost all of the later ones, and the most you can get them to say was "that was a good game, but not as good at 6 or 7". I think it's nostalgia, every new game (not just Final Fantasy) looks less creative to me, but I know they'll be good games.

I must admit that I badmouthed FFX-2 quite a bit, though.