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Khrymson Guide Joined: 5/21/08 Posts: 2934	6/18/09 4:11:48 PM#121 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Bluff+Ziggs Any FF game will be such awesome pve that pvp never needs be more then a side note, something to do here and there; mabye arena a la WoW, mabye some instanced/pvp specific zones. PvP has to remain entirely independant of PvE...if it doesn't then you'll get the but such n such class can hit harder than me BS, and then come in the nerfs and that ruins the PvE. Just leave it similar to FFXI or as one person mentioned add in blitzball which could have a team based PvP element to it. PvP should only be a side event or mini-game and nothing more!
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Bluff+Ziggs Novice Member Joined: 6/07/09 Posts: 68	6/18/09 4:20:25 PM#122 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Blitzball is an awesome idea. Though spike the ball so I can kill people with it! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17779800832&sid=1&pageNo=1 The OP just doesn't get it!
bacfire Novice Member Joined: 4/07/07 Posts: 4	6/18/09 10:50:50 PM#123 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Khrymson Hopefully not, as that only ruins the PvE experience and then you have constant tweaks and changes to balance all the classes based on the stupid PvP BS. FFXI has done great for the past 7 years with the little PvP they have and it has never effected the PvE and I sure as hell hope it stays that way! A BLM should damn well so way more damage than a WAR sword strike, and a RNG bow shot should hit with much better accuracy and dmg than a SAM with a bow! Balancing classes so they're on equal footing is not required in PvE, screw PvP, as there are plenty of games already with it and look how great they're doing....yeah...heh! Agreed 100% Please no pvp! ^^^ That's my thumb ^^^
Daiky Novice Member Joined: 9/10/10 Posts: 11	9/10/10 8:08:37 PM#124 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) People who dont know how to handle pressure are the ones who are claiming to not have PvP in Final Fantasy XIV There is a lot people who know how to react when a mob attacks them since they give you a lot time so you can attack back but when it comes to real people they just cant react in time thats the reason why many unskill players want a PVE sever so they wont have to worry about anyone attacking them when they are doing their silly quest. If you ask me the idea of having a game like Final Fantasy XIV without PVP is just incredibly stupid. As you might know, WoW is one of the most play mmorpg in the market since it has everything in one package like: quest, pvp, competition, wars between races ect... it meets every expectation from players. Can you imaging what would happen if they take out PVP from WOW tomorrow.... it would be a total caos nobody would play WOW anymore because there is not point on getting stronger in the game if you don't have anybody to compare your strenght to. I understand the idea of having a peaceful game where everybody is in one side but if you think about it for a second, there will be a point when the players will get much more stronger than the mobs and then ......what's next?..... wait until they release new quests with new and harder mobs? or maybe do the same quests over and over?..... it's ridiculous. There is not a lot of options here. PS: Competition between players is what keeps a mmorpg alive So please give me a break god dammit you seriously want Final Fantasy XIV to be a failure like Final Fantasy XI you dumb fans
dreamscaper Advanced Member Joined: 8/14/08 Posts: 745	9/10/10 9:04:49 PM#125 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Daiky People who dont know how to handle pressure are the ones who are claiming to not have PvP in Final Fantasy XIV There is a lot people who know how to react when a mob attacks them since they give you a lot time so you can attack back but when it comes to real people they just cant react in time thats the reason why many unskill players want a PVE sever so they wont have to worry about anyone attacking them when they are doing their silly quest. If you ask me the idea of having a game like Final Fantasy XIV without PVP is just incredibly stupid. As you might know, WoW is one of the most play mmorpg in the market since it has everything in one package like: quest, pvp, competition, wars between races ect... it meets every expectation from players. Can you imaging what would happen if they take out PVP from WOW tomorrow.... it would be a total caos nobody would play WOW anymore because there is not point on getting stronger in the game if you don't have anybody to compare your strenght to. This post is so full of nonsense I'm not really sure where to start. People who are saying they don't want pvp are doing so because they they don't like pvp. It's not a hard concept to grasp. Some people simply don't like having to worry about some tard trying his hardest to ruin their gaming experience when they just want to relax and spend some time in their virtual world. I'm also really tired of hearing the excuse that it requires more skill to play against other players. No, it only requires a different set of skills. In most games, it's simply a matter of knowing how the other classes work. Once that is down, which isn't unlike learning the tricks to a dungeon, it's just a matter of learning the best counters. Not every game needs pvp. City of Heroes was a game that I thought was fantastic without pvp. Same with LotRO. I works well in games like Aion and WoW. If you want to avoid the 'pve carebears' you have plenty of games to pick from. Finally, while getting stronger is fine, I feel rather sorry for you if that's your goal. The focus should be on cooperation, competition, and most importantly, enjoying the game. And for the record, before you call me a carebear, I should probably mention that I'm an Aion fangirl, thankyouverymuch. I don't mind pvp (obviously), but I also don't think it's necessary in order to enjoy a game. <3
Alders Hard Core Member Joined: 1/28/10 Posts: 893 I cannot fiddle but I can make a great state of a small city.	9/10/10 9:13:00 PM#126 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) PVP, with the current game mechanics implemented in FFXIV, will just be terrible. The lack of freedom of movement and the ridiculous animation locks will make for dull combat consisting of people standing in one spot and beating on each other. A game has to be build from the start to incorporate PVP. http://www.aldshotfirst.com/
Crynswind Novice Member Joined: 7/10/10 Posts: 281	9/10/10 9:14:26 PM#127 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) PVP = My signature. End game equipped Sins kill players. Players cry. My class get nerfed,im useless.
Crynswind Novice Member Joined: 7/10/10 Posts: 281	9/10/10 9:16:35 PM#128 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Alders PVP, with the current game mechanics implemented in FFXIV, will just be terrible. The lack of freedom of movement and the ridiculous animation locks will make for dull combat consisting of people standing in one spot and beating on each other. A game has to be build from the start to incorporate PVP. PVP will never happen in this game,and i love that. I am a Conjurer,if mobs of my lvl can 3 hit me (i have to coordinate heals when i kill dodos,and pray i don't get hit by a critical),i don't want to imagine what would happen with a Marauder spamming hit hit hit,1k tp,hit hit hit,1k tp.
Daiky Novice Member Joined: 9/10/10 Posts: 11	9/10/10 9:28:11 PM#129 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Ok first look at yourself you are a girl who plays AION. You just play AION because you like cute things like any other girl thats why you don't even care about PVP you just want to sit there and chat with your friends and help them if you can. In the other hand, we guys like things that are agressive things that put a lot pressure on us.In other words, we like competition.
Crynswind Novice Member Joined: 7/10/10 Posts: 281	9/10/10 9:32:49 PM#130 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Daiky Ok first look at yourself you are a girl who plays AION. You just play AION because you like cute things like any other girl thats why you don't even care about PVP you just want to sit there and chat with your friends and help them if you can. In the other hand, we guys like things that are agressive things that put a lot pressure on us.In other words, we like competition.
Daiky Novice Member Joined: 9/10/10 Posts: 11	9/10/10 9:46:30 PM#131 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Crynswind *Originally posted by Daiky* Ok first look at yourself you are a girl who plays AION. You just play AION because you like cute things like any other girl thats why you don't even care about PVP you just want to sit there and chat with your friends and help them if you can. In the other hand, we guys like things that are agressive things that put a lot pressure on us.In other words, we like competition.
Daiky Novice Member Joined: 9/10/10 Posts: 11	9/10/10 10:00:43 PM#132 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Alders PVP, with the current game mechanics implemented in FFXIV, will just be terrible. The lack of freedom of movement and the ridiculous animation locks will make for dull combat consisting of people standing in one spot and beating on each other. A game has to be build from the start to incorporate PVP. I think you are right on this one since the combat system sucks as hell in Final Fantasy XIV, but if they change the combat system and add a PVP server and PVE server this will solve everything and everyone will be happy which i think it will never happen because it's too late :S
Kaocan Advanced Member Joined: 8/18/09 Posts: 1262 The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.	9/10/10 10:08:42 PM#133 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Crynswind *Originally posted by Alders* PVP, with the current game mechanics implemented in FFXIV, will just be terrible. The lack of freedom of movement and the ridiculous animation locks will make for dull combat consisting of people standing in one spot and beating on each other. A game has to be build from the start to incorporate PVP. PVP will never happen in this game,and i love that. I am a Conjurer,if mobs of my lvl can 3 hit me (i have to coordinate heals when i kill dodos,and pray i don't get hit by a critical),i don't want to imagine what would happen with a Marauder spamming hit hit hit,1k tp,hit hit hit,1k tp. What I want to know is...why aren't you doing poison, heal, debuff, 1k tp, heal, repeat back?? I mean seriously, how much effor tis it for your caster to train lancer up to level 8 (only 8) and get your 1k tp debuff that shuts down thier tp generation? Keep the nice strong poison DoT on them and let them try and outheal your awesome caster heals with thier gimp melee heals. This games mechanics allow for so much more than the normal mentallity of play. Just because your a Conjurer doesn't mean you can only use your Conjurer abilities. You honestly think that Marauder in a PvP situation isnt going to have at LEAST 1 heal on thier bar?? (DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Daiky Novice Member Joined: 9/10/10 Posts: 11	9/10/10 10:14:04 PM#134 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Kaocan *Originally posted by Crynswind* *Originally posted by Alders* PVP, with the current game mechanics implemented in FFXIV, will just be terrible. The lack of freedom of movement and the ridiculous animation locks will make for dull combat consisting of people standing in one spot and beating on each other. A game has to be build from the start to incorporate PVP. PVP will never happen in this game,and i love that. I am a Conjurer,if mobs of my lvl can 3 hit me (i have to coordinate heals when i kill dodos,and pray i don't get hit by a critical),i don't want to imagine what would happen with a Marauder spamming hit hit hit,1k tp,hit hit hit,1k tp. What I want to know is...why aren't you doing poison, heal, debuff, 1k tp, heal, repeat back?? I mean seriously, how much effor tis it for your caster to train lancer up to level 8 (only 8) and get your 1k tp debuff that shuts down thier tp generation? Keep the nice strong poison DoT on them and let them try and outheal your awesome caster heals with thier gimp melee heals. This games mechanics allow for so much more than the normal mentallity of play. Just because your a Conjurer doesn't mean you can only use your Conjurer abilities. You honestly think that Marauder in a PvP situation isnt going to have at LEAST 1 heal on thier bar?? lol I agree
Sovrath Elite Member Joined: 1/06/05 Posts: 12528	9/10/10 10:25:23 PM#135 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Daiky Ok first look at yourself you are a girl who plays AION. You just play AION because you like cute things like any other girl thats why you don't even care about PVP you just want to sit there and chat with your friends and help them if you can. In the other hand, we guys like things that are agressive things that put a lot pressure on us.In other words, we like competition. ? Are you from the 50's? that's a ridiculous assessment.
Crynswind Novice Member Joined: 7/10/10 Posts: 281	9/10/10 10:26:08 PM#136 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Kaocan *Originally posted by Crynswind* *Originally posted by Alders* PVP, with the current game mechanics implemented in FFXIV, will just be terrible. The lack of freedom of movement and the ridiculous animation locks will make for dull combat consisting of people standing in one spot and beating on each other. A game has to be build from the start to incorporate PVP. PVP will never happen in this game,and i love that. I am a Conjurer,if mobs of my lvl can 3 hit me (i have to coordinate heals when i kill dodos,and pray i don't get hit by a critical),i don't want to imagine what would happen with a Marauder spamming hit hit hit,1k tp,hit hit hit,1k tp. What I want to know is...why aren't you doing poison, heal, debuff, 1k tp, heal, repeat back?? I mean seriously, how much effor tis it for your caster to train lancer up to level 8 (only 8) and get your 1k tp debuff that shuts down thier tp generation? Keep the nice strong poison DoT on them and let them try and outheal your awesome caster heals with thier gimp melee heals. This games mechanics allow for so much more than the normal mentallity of play. Just because your a Conjurer doesn't mean you can only use your Conjurer abilities. You honestly think that Marauder in a PvP situation isnt going to have at LEAST 1 heal on thier bar?? I have only lvled conjurer,thaumaturge,and ranger so far,didn't knew lancer had that skill,thanks for the info.
Crynswind Novice Member Joined: 7/10/10 Posts: 281	9/10/10 10:27:10 PM#137 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Daiky *Originally posted by Kaocan* *Originally posted by Crynswind* *Originally posted by Alders* PVP, with the current game mechanics implemented in FFXIV, will just be terrible. The lack of freedom of movement and the ridiculous animation locks will make for dull combat consisting of people standing in one spot and beating on each other. A game has to be build from the start to incorporate PVP. PVP will never happen in this game,and i love that. I am a Conjurer,if mobs of my lvl can 3 hit me (i have to coordinate heals when i kill dodos,and pray i don't get hit by a critical),i don't want to imagine what would happen with a Marauder spamming hit hit hit,1k tp,hit hit hit,1k tp. What I want to know is...why aren't you doing poison, heal, debuff, 1k tp, heal, repeat back?? I mean seriously, how much effor tis it for your caster to train lancer up to level 8 (only 8) and get your 1k tp debuff that shuts down thier tp generation? Keep the nice strong poison DoT on them and let them try and outheal your awesome caster heals with thier gimp melee heals. This games mechanics allow for so much more than the normal mentallity of play. Just because your a Conjurer doesn't mean you can only use your Conjurer abilities. You honestly think that Marauder in a PvP situation isnt going to have at LEAST 1 heal on thier bar?? lol I agree No one cares what you think,my little troll.
Daiky Novice Member Joined: 9/10/10 Posts: 11	9/10/10 10:29:27 PM#138 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Sovrath *Originally posted by Daiky* Ok first look at yourself you are a girl who plays AION. You just play AION because you like cute things like any other girl thats why you don't even care about PVP you just want to sit there and chat with your friends and help them if you can. In the other hand, we guys like things that are agressive things that put a lot pressure on us.In other words, we like competition. ? Are you from the 50's? that's a ridiculous assessment. well base on what she said thats what i get but if you have anything to add say so please
Rajen Apprentice Member Joined: 7/12/09 Posts: 699	9/10/10 10:41:30 PM#139 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Daiky Ok first look at yourself you are a girl who plays AION. You just play AION because you like cute things like any other girl thats why you don't even care about PVP you just want to sit there and chat with your friends and help them if you can. In the other hand, we guys like things that are agressive things that put a lot pressure on us.In other words, we like competition. lol speak for yourself bud.... I don't 'need' or 'like' to do any of that in order to feel like a man. Then again I don't feel I have to compensate for anything either.
Daiky Novice Member Joined: 9/10/10 Posts: 11	9/10/10 10:48:14 PM#140 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Rajen *Originally posted by Daiky* Ok first look at yourself you are a girl who plays AION. You just play AION because you like cute things like any other girl thats why you don't even care about PVP you just want to sit there and chat with your friends and help them if you can. In the other hand, we guys like things that are agressive things that put a lot pressure on us.In other words, we like competition. lol speak for yourself bud.... I don't 'need' or 'like' to do any of that in order to feel like a man. Then again I don't feel I have to compensate for anything either. a ok i get it so you like cute things and chat with your friends and kill mobs that dont even do anything different when you are attacking them? I'm going to repeat myself again one more time PVP is a challenge for players and the ones who fall first during the battle those are the one who prefer to play PVE. I can swear on my grave that the majority of those players dont like PVP for that same reason. PS: I didn't say that you need to do those thing to be a man i just say that most of us feel that way if you feel differently thats not my business.