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8/12/09 8:48:15 AM#41
Umm no. How it works is they steal people from the old games dev team for the new team. AO->AOC->TSW this is how it works and is standard practice at fc. Its the same damn people just moved around. I posted this in a thread the other day.. Conan's defense against energy beam based weapons.. Theres your quality!
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Zlayer77
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Joined: 5/19/09
Start worrying about other players in a game and dont just play |
Originally posted by Yuui Exacly how deep do you think Funcoms pockets are?? The development team is based in Norway you know this right? Norway, finnland, sweden and denmark have totaly diffrent laws when it comes to letting people go. Its not the US, funcom cant just fire people left and right and hire new onse. We have a shitload of protection in the northen european countries against getting laid off. So Ragnar Tornquiest might be the lead designer on this one but the programers and concept artist are the same as on AOC trust me. Also how many tallented programs and artist do you think countries like swedan (9m peopel live here) and norway, that have even fewer people can produce?? not many I can tell you that... So now that we have gotten that out of the way. A single player game like the longest journey is alot esier to produce then a full blown mmo. And Funcoms dream world engine needs a total rework, it's one of the buggiest codes i have ever seen.. So if they dont buy a Licence for a better engine and restructure the hole company, we should not expect this to be anything other then a massive FAIL! |
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8/21/09 11:37:20 AM#43
This guy created Dreamfall and Longest Journey, expect some good to come of it. |
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8/24/09 2:43:38 PM#44
HA!!! People getting bitter over pixels. Really now... Go grab a sun tan, a beer or whatever. It's not worth it, seriously. Them bloody pixels will be here tomorrow as well. |
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9/03/09 11:00:04 PM#45
Originally posted by Theocritus
I cant believe any self respecting gamer would even think of giving Fucnob any money after the the epic fail that is AO and AOC Tried: EQ2 - AC - EU - HZ - TR - MxO - TTO - WURM - SL - VG:SoH - PotBS - PS - AoC - WAR - DDO - SWTOR |
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9/04/09 6:21:15 AM#46
Originally posted by PyrateLV
I cant believe any self respecting gamer would even think of giving Fucnob any money after the the epic fail that is AO and AOC
Thank *god* Blizzard/NCSoft/SOE have completely smooth and bug free launches of every single of their MMO's... General rule: Don't expect too much of a computer program the first year. A bunch of monkeys monkying around for an extendend period of time will always find holes. FYI, Microsoft is still patching XP..
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9/04/09 7:00:29 AM#47
Originally posted by Aercus
Thank *god* Blizzard/NCSoft/SOE have completely smooth and bug free launches of every single of their MMO's... General rule: Don't expect too much of a computer program the first year. A bunch of monkeys monkying around for an extendend period of time will always find holes. FYI, Microsoft is still patching XP..
That is the exact mentality that has lead to the condition the mmo market is in right now. Why not expecty a decent game at release? The company making the game expects us to pay for it, so why should our standard be set so low? NCSoft actually has really good releases. Blizzards one release was a great game, but they did not have enough hardware to satisfy demand for the game and it bogged down the entire system. SOE, well you have a point, but look how the once mighty giant is doing now.
I'm sorry, but if a company releases a game, then people should expect it to be good on day one. Not perfect, not bug free, but good. There is no reason to wait a year for a company to get their act together anymore and as witnessed right here in conan, people are done waiting. You don't see this type of mentality in the console market, so why should the pc market be any different?
Funcom is not going to get a full year of forgiveness with their next mmo. They need to come out strong with their next release and be honest about what it does and does not do. Anything short of that is just going to repeat the mass exodus seen in AO and Conan.
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9/04/09 7:04:02 AM#48
Originally posted by PyrateLV
I cant believe any self respecting gamer would even think of giving Fucnob any money after the the epic fail that is AO and AOC
Aw, did you think of that yourself? You're so clever. |
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9/04/09 7:12:29 AM#49
arenanet isnt ncsoft yes arenanet is very good but unless im mistaken (could be), their last release here was l2 a long while ago maybe dungeon runner (not sure) |
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9/04/09 7:12:53 AM#50
In my opinion you should never dismiss a game based upon its developers or producers, especially when it comes to MMOs. You can bash the company and the production house but you should not bash the game; just keep tabs on it and see what happens. After all, it's the individuals behind the scenes, the individuals who are, in most cases, completely different individuals from game to game, that make an MMO what it is. And beyond them is the original concept. If you like the original concept, you may like the game. If you like the creative minds, you may like the game. If you like the based-off (whether in part or inspiration) concept, you may like the game.
For the good of the gamers I advise to keep an open mind and not miss an opportunity, whether this game or any other. That being said I have little idea what this game is about other than some religious and amoral peoples fighting darkness in the real-not-real-world. All this is, as always, in my opinion and subject to blah.
EDIT: By the way, I'm sure one of the reasons that Funcom opened up a studio in Canada was so that they could fire and hire new talent freely. They also chose one of the best three places in the Americas to situate themselves when it comes to talent in the game industry. That might bode quite well for them in future projects. I always hope all MMOs do good. Wouldn't it be nice to have a choice in what to play.. and I mean without settling? Objectivity is delivered with a lack of personality made for the mainstream but never used for the mainstream. |
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9/04/09 7:16:35 AM#51
op while true aoc isnt really flamboyant ,i do hope they get the secret world out . when mm september next year would be perfect one problem if they do that wowo will probably have released their cannon so they dont have much choice its delay for 2 years a good game (would be a good call) or release it within 6 month(i do hope they dont plan to release early just because they saw cataclysm.
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9/04/09 7:21:27 AM#52
Indeed it would be silly to condemn or praise this game before it comes out. However FC does excel at producing hype. Hype that it doesn't live up to. I'd wait til after the game launches and get a free trial before I'd check it out. |
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9/04/09 7:41:57 AM#53
Originally posted by Daffid011
Thank *god* Blizzard/NCSoft/SOE have completely smooth and bug free launches of every single of their MMO's... General rule: Don't expect too much of a computer program the first year. A bunch of monkeys monkying around for an extendend period of time will always find holes. FYI, Microsoft is still patching XP..
That is the exact mentality that has lead to the condition the mmo market is in right now. Why not expecty a decent game at release? The company making the game expects us to pay for it, so why should our standard be set so low? NCSoft actually has really good releases. Blizzards one release was a great game, but they did not have enough hardware to satisfy demand for the game and it bogged down the entire system. SOE, well you have a point, but look how the once mighty giant is doing now.
I'm sorry, but if a company releases a game, then people should expect it to be good on day one. Not perfect, not bug free, but good. There is no reason to wait a year for a company to get their act together anymore and as witnessed right here in conan, people are done waiting. You don't see this type of mentality in the console market, so why should the pc market be any different?
Funcom is not going to get a full year of forgiveness with their next mmo. They need to come out strong with their next release and be honest about what it does and does not do. Anything short of that is just going to repeat the mass exodus seen in AO and Conan.
Buddy, I'm all for it! But be realistic, the amount of coding that goes into a modern program is so vast that bugs will persist and releasing a perfect product is impossible. A few years back it was acceptable that 1 in 10 cars was a lemon. Not to say AoC wasn't released a year early.. |
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9/07/09 4:58:28 AM#54
Originally posted by Aercus
I don't think the bugyness was the main problem with AOC. It had some problems, but nothing abnormal that people could not close their eyes to if the game was good. They overhyped their game out of all proportions, and when people finally got to play it, they were severely dissapointed because it was nowhere near the hype. Even though the game was not that bad, it was not what they hyped it up to be. I hope they learned from their passed releases, because I loved both Tornquist's games (TLJ, dreamfall) and know that the guy is an awesome storyteller, and I hope he is able to transfer that into the MMO enviroment successfully because the thematics of this game is really interesting and something else. This time arround though I will resist faling for any hype and wait for it to come out, initial boom to calm down and people to play it for a month or two before I decide. |
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9/07/09 10:20:38 AM#55
It's both wrong to condemn and to praise the game, while there are almost no real information about the game itself. We can only hope that it will be good. It's also wrong to judge a game before it's release just because the company that is making it had some problems with previous releases. So calm down and wait until you can play it. Only then you'll have a real solid opinion to whether it's a failure or not. |
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9/10/09 11:41:07 AM#56
While I think Funcom has its share of issues and blunders with AO and AoC, I like the concept of TSW and how they are promoting it. With AoC, it was crammed down our throats to the point where it was gonna fail no matter what unless it was the most amazing game of all. Sadly, the game was release half finished and poorly executed. With TSW, they are giving us teasers. They are barely giving us any information. I think it fits the theme of the game. Personally, I will be watching the game progress and see where it goes. |
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9/12/09 9:10:55 PM#57
You will never convince the stupid. Some people just want to hate and they are the same people that don't want to think. "There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit." — John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman |
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9/13/09 3:14:03 AM#58
Originally posted by dhayes68
I will get the CE when it comes out. But that is just me ;) Hell I would get lifetime sub for it if they offer it...
I will give you a few reasons: 1. Funcom's beautiful engine (now refined and hopefully with a lot less bugs) 2. Ragner's vision 3. The lore which is a mixture of conspiracy theories and Lovecraft. Vampires, zombies, horrors lurking in the dark. 4. Screenshots already show the kind of game I want to play; realistic yet it has it's own style 5. Class-less and level-less game. 6. The idea of being a katana-swinging magic-user. 7. Three factions instead of two - a simple but brilliant design choice!
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9/15/09 3:53:32 AM#59
There are 2 companies in the MMO genre in which a mass number of people have boycotted. First and foremost is SOE, I personally have not been burnt by them but I will be extremly weary of their future titles, because I have followed what they have done. Second is Funcom. I was burnt by them(yup AoC). I can get past the bad launch, and even the missing features. What is disgustingly appalling is how they handled themselves post launch. They had no idea what was going on. That was evident when they buffed my already OP soul swarm, just to severely nerf it next week. The constant lies, patch after patch was all, well mostly screwing around with classes when the game had horrendous problems besides class balance. I read something that at AoC's launch that half the AoC crew left to go to Funcoms new MMO. That really pissed me off because AoC was in dire need of help. Now it seems this is the new MMO. I havnt looked up who this guy is that is doing TSW? You guys list some games hes done? I am assuming, I havnt heard of or played any of them. I am assuming they are not MMO's. Does this guy have any MMO experience? If not well its already looking bad, because an MMO is a whole different beast. Elder scrolls online: Voice your concerns here :http://www.zenimax.com/contact.php |
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9/15/09 3:55:55 AM#60
Originally posted by toddze
But do you sleep okay?
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