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RMT stands for "Real Money Transaction". It basically means you can legally buy items in-game (either from the developer or other players) by paying real cash. While discussing it in this thread (which itself was a response to this article), there seems to be some debate as to exactly what the term means and whether MMO players will accept the idea of RMT in their games or not. So I thought I'd start a poll to find out. So how important is the RMT issue to you? (I tried to cover all possible positions on the issue...)
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6/08/09 5:10:13 PM#2
I feel about 20 more threads are needed on this subject , how about you? |
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Do you have an opinion or are you just trolling?
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6/08/09 5:14:09 PM#4
Originally posted by Brain-dead
I voted and have already stated my opinion in the 372 threads about this issue so yes i have an opinion. |
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6/08/09 5:16:55 PM#5
I've played mostly pay to play games over my MMORPG 'career'. Over the last 6 months or so, I've checked out some free to play MMO's. I haven't found any free to play games that I really thought were worth playing, tbh. And I would say that 1 of the major reasons behind my 'less than satisfactory' gaming experience was RMT and what it did to the game.
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I voted and have already stated my opinion in the 372 threads about this issue so yes i have an opinion. Then voice your opinion and save the trolling. |
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6/08/09 5:20:36 PM#7
ive already answerd no one 1000s of these that i have no problem with them theres no point to vote again |
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6/08/09 5:33:14 PM#8
This IS the least biased poll I've seen about RMT on these forums except for there being no conditionals and not offering more options for no RMT like: advertising, completely F2P no matter what, box/expansion sets only, monthly fee only, and similar . still leaving you as still pretty darn biased towards favoring RMT. ___ As long as the RMT is preplanned for in developement, and RMT actually suits the game I could care less. When I was messing around with SecondLife mechanics full open RMT actually made quite a bit of sense, I even paid for some books out of my profit from scripting. When SoE went and forced RMT on an established game that wasn't designed for it, that wasn't ok and didn't make very much sense.
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6/08/09 5:37:24 PM#9
You left out "RMT is OK as long as the game rules allow it."
^--THAT |
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No I didnt...thats the very first option. It is implicit that I am talking about "legal" RMT...so it has to be "in the rules" if it is there at all. So the response you want is covered in the first option in the poll. |
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6/08/09 5:48:41 PM#11
Originally posted by LynxJSA
I'm 100% against RMT. It's not something I would consider an integral part of MMO entertainment for myself. Note, I'm not saying their shouldn't be games out there for people who want to engage in it and it makes sense for a game to be created with it in mind to do it right. I just personally won't be playing that game OR if it's a game that looks interesting and has normal pay per month servers I'd choose that option. A large part of MMOs for me is the escape from the daily real life grind. I know I don't make/have as much money as a great deal of gamers out there and I don't need that point following me into my leisure time. With normal P2P servers the only thing that effects another players "status" when compared to mine is the amount of time they put into being and doing in the game world. That is alot easier to digest for me as I can allot more of my time to compete with them. Unless I turn to a life of crime I really can't get more money with which to buy all those virtual items and compete on the Visa factor. "Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..." |
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6/08/09 6:09:07 PM#12
Originally posted by Khalathwyr
I'm 100% against RMT. It's not something I would consider an integral part of MMO entertainment for myself. Note, I'm not saying their shouldn't be games out there for people who want to engage in it and it makes sense for a game to be created with it in mind to do it right. I just personally won't be playing that game OR if it's a game that looks interesting and has normal pay per month servers I'd choose that option. A large part of MMOs for me is the escape from the daily real life grind. I know I don't make/have as much money as a great deal of gamers out there and I don't need that point following me into my leisure time. With normal P2P servers the only thing that effects another players "status" when compared to mine is the amount of time they put into being and doing in the game world. That is alot easier to digest for me as I can allot more of my time to compete with them. Unless I turn to a life of crime I really can't get more money with which to buy all those virtual items and compete on the Visa factor.
So you are basing your sole reason against RMT on that fact that you are poor and you cannot compete with others? Does that mean that you will be all FOR RMT if you are rich and busy? What about fairness? |
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6/08/09 8:25:35 PM#13
Originally posted by nariusseldon
So you are basing your sole reason against RMT on that fact that you are poor and you cannot compete with others? Does that mean that you will be all FOR RMT if you are rich and busy? What about fairness? No, I'm basing it on principles, not that I expect you to understand that. Games, in my view, should give the players the most even playing field possible so that they may all have a chance to attain the highest echelons. A person's real world worth, in my opinion, shouldn't be a factor as often times they have no say in the ups and downs of that measurable. Some people will try to use time in the same way but I will never see that a a valid rebuttal. Everything in life requires time spent. If I work 8 hours a day and make $70,000 a year and and the next guy works 8 hours a day and makes $140,000 a year, we both have 8 hours a day to play and 8 hours to sleep. I can match him hour for hour in gameplay hours, but I can not match him in terms of dollars thrown at a game to buy virtual items. As for your "all for RMT" second question, I'll refer you to the first sentence I wrote. I can't write that any more clearly and if you can't comprehend it, well, then there we are. Fairness? Fairness is built into a game's ruleset. If RMT is built into a game's fabric from the beginning, a player who can't spend the necessary amounts to compete and still chooses to play an RMT game has no ground to stand on complaining about fairness. If you don't read those rules before playing you're an idiot and if you play and then whine about it not being fair you're a moron and an idiot.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..." |
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6/08/09 8:44:50 PM#14
Originally posted by rello
I'm for it because it gives me another chance to vote it down. No doubt half of the RMT polls are feelers sent out by douchebags I mean beancounters hoping to stick it in their game. |
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6/08/09 11:03:47 PM#15
i dont want to join or compete in RMT game cuz i know its a cheat. no more raid, no more exploration, no more lag(nice!) etc you just sit back and show off all your luxurious fashion, thats RMT game. definitely not for me
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6/08/09 11:20:07 PM#16
I used to be very anti RMT until I realized that nearly all games available today have an RMT element. The ability to buy and sell gold via a third party is alive and well and not one single game to date has been able to stop it from happening. Gold farmers ruin the games they mine. They are obnoxious and I wish they would all go away. Unfortunatly they arent going anywhere and I dont think anyones ever going ot make them. So now I find myself in the position of advocating RMT if it can be done in a way that undercuts the gold farmer so much that it is not profitable for them to continue thier bot and spam colonies disrupting my game experience. I do not advocate pay to play + RMT I will never pay a subscription to a game that uses the RMT model but if the game was fun I would not be aversed to playing. THE MMORPG genre is coming to a crossroads. People are not as willing to invest the months and months of gaming necessary to get to the tootsie roll center. There is barely any room to innovate its bascially EQ-UO 5.0 at this point. let them ride dragons in this one or paint wings on their backs in that one but no real ground breaking systems. If RMT will open up the genre a little i say let it try. Life support is no way to live. Refugee from UO,EQ,AC,AC2,AO,DAOC,L2,SB,HZ,CoH,PT,EQ2,WoW,VG,SWG,EVE,WAR,DF,MO,AI,GA, LOTRO... |
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6/09/09 2:41:07 AM#17
Im just new here.. and in my opinion. RMT is a no-no. They kinda ruin the fun in the mmos. Mmos are supposed to be dependent in you/ your character skills plus the items. If RMT is allowed, Then if you are rich IRL, then you are one of the strongest players in the game. This kinda offsets the real gamers, since they play to become strong while other players pay to become strong. Idk about it's effect to the economy, but for the real dedicated gamer. It sucks. BTW, Im totally against it. |
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6/09/09 3:05:29 AM#18
Our the F2P/RMT companies going to pay us for these polls we keep doing for them? :) |
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6/09/09 3:08:59 AM#19
When I'm paying a subscription, they better not have RL bought items brought into the game. If I'm not paying a subscription, I'm not playing the game. Too many negatives to that model, in my opinion. |
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6/09/09 6:36:02 AM#20
RMT kills the purpose of the games core. Why play the game if all you have to do is go to the games mall and buy the best of everything? It just makes no sense. Because what they've issentially done is turn the game into a huge chat room - think IMVU. RMT is bad.  |
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