Originally posted by Waterlily

The most embarrassing part of Aion is the translation in the English patch.

A chest is called a cube for example, you have no idea what they mean by that until someone tells you. I spent 10 minutes trying to find backpacks until someone told me they're translated as cubes.

Thanks, now I know what cube means.

Originally posted by saker

 

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Originally posted by slntnsnty

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Originally posted by stayontarget

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Originally posted by sushimees

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Originally posted by gamerman98
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Game is almost out, are you supposing that something drastic will change once it will be gold?

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um yes it will.  Beta and live are 2 different client versions. That means many patches in between.

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That sorry excuse hasn't saved the last ~5 major games from flopping.

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Have to agree, this excuse has been used to death going back to the legendarily (probably not a real word) disastrous Anarchy Online launch. Not that I wish these people bad or anything, but people are doing this funny thing people do and putting this game up on a pedestal. It's not the Holy grail of games come to deliver us from WoW. Maybe it'll be nice, but it's not looking to be anything remotely revolutionary.

Bring out the Holy Hand Grenade!

Originally posted by darkjoy

Maybe its to soon to make conclusions, but it smells like that what its every time...

 

great cinematics that lie to you and give a hyped hollywood movie  and game looking totally different later...

 

just played for about an hour, and till this point, it feels same like i felt with games like rohan etc... cheap f2p gameplay

 

HEY! NCSOFT´s GOT a WOW CLONE, THEY NOW EARN MONEY!!!! Hopefully there will be any drastically differences showing soon...

 

when will this end?

 

guess im better off enjoing the rest of my d&d free trial, that was more enjoying

I'm not surprised you enjoy D&D Online more. You people can compare here, check my (mostly gameplay) videos: www.xfire.com/profile/sarr77/videos/ddo

And one particular vid worth seeing. This is repost from recent thread:

www.xfire.com/video/c82f3

Who is sneaking here? It's a cleric! He learned to sneak, probably has some items that boost this skill too. And he was also one of the best fighters in that group. Pretty amazing what you can do with your character... Cleric normally is just a healer.

I am sorry to agree - but the game is not what I hoped for either.

Was hoping for a wow killer - but it's far fram that. 

How hard can it be to make "the" game?

Useless threads about the aion beta, this forum needs more of them.

 Ahem... This is a forum about Aion - so what is wrong with threads about the beta?

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Originally posted by asdasdasdd

 atleast correct yourself and say EQ clone, because guess what wow is...
 

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Originally posted by BizkitNL

AION beating WoW in the west, not sure. It might, but it might not. We'll see.

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It will not even get a 10th of wows subscribers let alone beat it

Originally posted by Electriceye

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Let's not compare the asian MMO market with the western one. WoW is, after all, a western MMO with western things in it. Offcourse AION beats it way over there.

AION beating WoW in the west, not sure. It might, but it might not. We'll see.

 

If you ask me it's probably not going to get even half of WoW's subs in the West. I never said Aion was going to beat WoW.

Aion is basically the same type of game as WoW with updated graphics and more interesting pvp. Those are the top complaints just about everyone has about WoW - the graphics are cartoony/outdated and the pvp is repetitve as hell.

WoW won't 'die' for a very long time because you can run the thing on practically any system. Aion will beat WoW in the global market though, no doubts there. The combat system is just as fluid and more thought out class-wise, so it's really not a hard call to make. It may not beat it in NA, but NA makes up a tiny portion of the total people playing WoW anyway.

Originally posted by Electriceye

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Let's not compare the asian MMO market with the western one. WoW is, after all, a western MMO with western things in it. Offcourse AION beats it way over there.

AION beating WoW in the west, not sure. It might, but it might not. We'll see.

 

If you ask me it's probably not going to get even half of WoW's subs in the West. I never said Aion was going to beat WoW.

Didn't say you did :).

Originally posted by saker

 

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Originally posted by slntnsnty

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Originally posted by stayontarget

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Originally posted by sushimees

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Originally posted by gamerman98
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Game is almost out, are you supposing that something drastic will change once it will be gold?

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um yes it will.  Beta and live are 2 different client versions. That means many patches in between.

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That sorry excuse hasn't saved the last ~5 major games from flopping.

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Have to agree, this excuse has been used to death going back to the legendarily (probably not a real word) disastrous Anarchy Online launch. Not that I wish these people bad or anything, but people are doing this funny thing people do and putting this game up on a pedestal. It's not the Holy grail of games come to deliver us from WoW. Maybe it'll be nice, but it's not looking to be anything remotely revolutionary.

The difference here is that the patches already exist. We are playing on an early version 1.0 ; Korea retail is on v1.3.

On the beta forums they have also posted that we will get a higher version at release.

Originally posted by mo0rbid

 

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Originally posted by asdasdasdd

 

 atleast correct yourself and say EQ clone, because guess what wow is...
 

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Don't say that about EQ. EQ was barely close to being similar to WoW. The only thing they had in common was that they were 3d and followed the general mmo criterias IE quests,levels and so forth.

I think the problem is you (and many people) can't tell what is EQ or (as this game is most popular) WoW like type.

When every MMO game is almost the same, you start to think that WAR is much different than WoW, and so on. No, it's not. I play D&D Online, and know for sure it's not a clone of anything, nor that any game is similar. Maybe there will be DDO clones in future, but now - this is one of those games that when you played it, you know how similar are games like EQ, WoW, WAR, AION, LotrO, etc. Even AoC isn't much different - something like an EQ style game with some DDO elements, but not enough. Core gameplay is more like WoW or GW.

Oh, there is also Guild Wars type. Chronicles of Spellborn and AoC may be in that category. DDO isn't anything like those two as well.

So basically, you need to know well enough games that are really unique (played whole trial, or something like that) to tell which are so similar to EQ or WoW, that you may think they are based on the same engine.

Originally posted by tumppigo

Was hoping for a wow killer - but it's far fram that. 

How hard can it be to make "the" game?

I'd say that Wow killed itself with the graphics, but there are 11m people to tell me I'm wrong... so who cares?

I am glad we now have such a polished game with an art direction that fits me.

Noting wrong with WoW! The graphics are dated but blizzard does known how to make great designs with that there are many details in the world of warcraft the zone designs getting better and better and on pve content no game can compar to WoW! All the world of Aion can fit in the two starter zones of Wotlk.... For pvp WoW may suck but it was never really build as a pvp game in the first place!

Originally posted by jhjsaat

Noting wrong with WoW! The graphics are dated but blizzard does known how to make great designs with that there are many details in the world of warcraft the zone designs getting better and better and on pve content no game can compar to WoW! All the world of Aion can fit in the two starter zones of Wotlk.... For pvp WoW may suck but it was never really build as a pvp game in the first place!

No one can compare to WoW in PvE? Obviously haven't played quests in D&D Online, am I right? 

WoW has nothing comparable, I'm afraid. I played WoW for 2 or maybe 3 years, and tried WotLK, but it's stil as weak as ever. Check it for yourself.

Originally posted by Sarr

Originally posted by jhjsaat

Noting wrong with WoW! The graphics are dated but blizzard does known how to make great designs with that there are many details in the world of warcraft the zone designs getting better and better and on pve content no game can compar to WoW! All the world of Aion can fit in the two starter zones of Wotlk.... For pvp WoW may suck but it was never really build as a pvp game in the first place!

 

No one can compare to WoW in PvE? Obviously haven't played quests in D&D Online, am I right? 

WoW has nothing comparable, I'm afraid. I played WoW for 2 or maybe 3 years, and tried WotLK, but it's stil as weak as ever. Check it for yourself.

Nop I did not play D&D Online! I not even known there was a D&D Online I try lotr online but did not really like the ip use. But I wana try this!!! I am downloading D&D Online now!

I don't know what cinematics you were watching OP, but this game is gorgeous. It is also built upon a very solid engine, Crytek engine. If you've played the CH version, you will know the game can handle a lot, and I mean a lot of players in one area on full graphics, and not even hitch. Once you get towards endgame, this game is anything but World of Warcraft. I would say more a long the lines of DaoC PVP wise. This is the one game I've played were you can have a mid end rig and run full detail and still top out at 50-60 FPS in the open. And with all that, it looks awesome. Wait till you get into air PVP situations, or get raided by a top level PVP player in transformation. Or well ... get to 30+ and find out for yourself. It's a blast and crafting isn't half bad either. Anyways, gotta run, long drive tommorow.

Originally posted by Minion552

Has anyone ever stoped to think the main reason most of these games fail is beacuse you compare it to WoW and cry how it is the same as wow then just end up going back to wow.... It is a circle for most people, dislike wow leave for another game get bored go see what else is out, Play for a day say this is like wow complain for the next 3 days....log back into wow and complain...

What makes a game like WoW is it the hot bar?? is it the story horde Vs Allaince?? is it the long crafting system that makes no sence and eats your soul?? maybe its the fact you play classes like WoW?? Is it the monsters in the world??  Is it the combat system??  Cause I am here to tell you everything in wow has been done before.  First game to have a crafting system was UO first game to have Instance Dungeons was EQ , First game to have battle grounds was AO first game to have that type of combat system was EQ... Those classes are all stolen from the old D@D wow in no way was the paver for todays MMO world and getting tired of people thinking it was.

WoW in its own right is a good game and yes there are some wow clones out there. But to compare another game to wow as a clone then it should have most of the elements of WoW... So far Aion has a few but it is a basic MMO it has its own lore and its own style... Are some of the in game game play like wow yes but once again WoW was not the first to do it..

What makes Wow so popular? Well for one thing had Blizzard tons of fans who liked the Warcraft world already before the game was released.

Also they had the right timing, people were very tired of Everquest who had made too many expansions and a lot of players felt that the game was old and watered down at the time Wow released.

And Wow had also 2 of the worlds best programmers working on it. In the beginning Strain put up all the basics and then Kaplan perfected the game and finnished it.

Is this the right timing for the next big MMO? Maybe but I think the next year is better, EQ had lost players before Wow released.

Have NC soft tons of fans? No, not in NA/EU but they do in asia. Do the world have many fans already? No, not here.

Do NC soft have any of the best programmers of computer games? Not any I know of at least....

Aion have already succeded in Asia but did anybody doubt that?

But I don't think it have whats it take to dethrone Wow in europe and america, the only game that fits these criterias is Biowares TOR or possibly CCP/White wolfs World of darkness online, if they can get all Vampire fans to play it. Both those game worlds have millions of fans but that is not enough to succed, so does Warhammer. But they are made by companies that think out of the box also, and they have good programmers, particulary Bioware.

I see Aion here getting about the same number of subs as LOTRO have or possibly some more but I doubt it will have 1 million subs 6 months after launch here, even half that number is impressive. I don't think doing what Blizzard did with Everquest will work another time either. That does not mean Aion is a bad game of course, or even that Wow is better but it will still not get more subs in EU/NA.

Originally posted by asdasdasdd

If you're going to be a retard and call shit same old etc, then atleast correct yourself and say EQ clone, because guess what wow is...

 

Oh and btw, every game will have quests, because if they don't people will bitch about grinding, even though stupid people will cry and call it a wow clone =/.

And yes, calling a game a clone within 1 hour gameplay is a bit steep, the first 10-20 levels of aion isn't shit, you don't get wings untill 20 I believe and class change at 10.

 

Everygame ever made is/was/will be a clone in some form of everything, even that special game your playing I bet.

lets not call him a retard. its such a strong word to use. its his opinion and we shall respect it or criticize it without using offensive language. dont make this place sound like onrpg.

Originally posted by Pinkerl

Originally posted by asdasdasdd

If you're going to be a retard and call shit same old etc, then atleast correct yourself and say EQ clone, because guess what wow is...

 

Oh and btw, every game will have quests, because if they don't people will bitch about grinding, even though stupid people will cry and call it a wow clone =/.

And yes, calling a game a clone within 1 hour gameplay is a bit steep, the first 10-20 levels of aion isn't shit, you don't get wings untill 20 I believe and class change at 10.

 

Everygame ever made is/was/will be a clone in some form of everything, even that special game your playing I bet.

 

lets not call him a retard. its such a strong word to use. its his opinion and we shall respect it or criticize it without using offensive language. dont make this place sound like onrpg.

 

Oh yeah, I salute you man! This quote is the best I've heard on MMORPG in a looong while.