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6/08/09 5:09:48 AM#301
Originally posted by Scalebane
Scalebane, the way you write makes you seem rather trollish and very unfriendly so you cant really blame people from reacting bad to you. First you bash Aion fans and DF fans, why did you feel the need to do this ? id say this is very immature way to start a post. And this was pure stress test called beta with limits so people could get to see a portion of it also to see how well the game runs on their PCs. Dont hold your breath on a trial very soon after release, but of course i cant blame you for holding back after the recent bad releases of War/AoC but you could try to be more fair and try to take in the reviews from many players and take it from there with a grain of salt. And what did you expect from lvl 1? the first lvls in a MMO is always about learning te basic of a game and to get you into it without overpowering you with too much at once, hence MMOs start a little slow. MMOs will always have grinding weather its quests or mobs its a huge part of what makes the genre, what matters is do you have fun and enjoy the game while doing it ? if the quests are good enough it wont feel like a grind but with good story and lore its like reading a interactive book. People have said zoning is extremly fast on even low quality pcs so cant see why you complain about this. Its impossible to have 1 huge game world with massive pvp, no real servers can handle that in MMOs. And i agree the swimming part is somewhat annoying but really its only a tiny part that probaly get a patch at one point. When i see your post i only see 1 way critic and nothing fair or positive arguments from you so of course people wont respond to you very well, remember when you critic anything you gotta do it with a open mind so people can take what you write serious. I whould recommend you to just wait a week or two after release in EU/US and see what the reviews says before you decide anything sens that what seem to fit you best, but try to relaxe abit and choose your words abit better when writing your opinion.
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6/08/09 5:19:57 AM#302
Originally posted by tbj28
Scalebane, the way you write makes you seem rather trollish and very unfriendly so you cant really blame people from reacting bad to you. First you bash Aion fans and DF fans, why did you feel the need to do this ? id say this is very immature way to start a post. And this was pure stress test called beta with limits so people could get to see a portion of it also to see how well the game runs on their PCs. Dont hold your breath on a trial very soon after release, but of course i cant blame you for holding back after the recent bad releases of War/AoC but you could try to be more fair and try to take in the reviews from many players and take it from there with a grain of salt. And what did you expect from lvl 1? the first lvls in a MMO is always about learning te basic of a game and to get you into it without overpowering you with too much at once, hence MMOs start a little slow. MMOs will always have grinding weather its quests or mobs its a huge part of what makes the genre, what matters is do you have fun and enjoy the game while doing it ? if the quests are good enough it wont feel like a grind but with good story and lore its like reading a interactive book. People have said zoning is extremly fast on even low quality pcs so cant see why you complain about this. Its impossible to have 1 huge game world with massive pvp, no real servers can handle that in MMOs. And i agree the swimming part is somewhat annoying but really its only a tiny part that probaly get a patch at one point. When i see your post i only see 1 way critic and nothing fair or positive arguments from you so of course people wont respond to you very well, remember when you critic anything you gotta do it with a open mind so people can take what you write serious. I whould recommend you to just wait a week or two after release in EU/US and see what the reviews says before you decide anything sens that what seem to fit you best, but try to relaxe abit and choose your words abit better when writing your opinion.
Wow what a constructive and mature way to respond, since you do the foot work I'll finish it up.
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6/08/09 5:25:42 AM#303
Originally posted by tbj28
Scalebane, the way you write makes you seem rather trollish and very unfriendly so you cant really blame people from reacting bad to you. First you bash Aion fans and DF fans, why did you feel the need to do this ? id say this is very immature way to start a post. And this was pure stress test called beta with limits so people could get to see a portion of it also to see how well the GAME runs on their PCs. Dont hold your breath on a trial very soon after release, but of course i cant blame you for holding back after the recent bad releases of War/AoC but you could try to be more fair and try to take in the reviews from many players and take it from there with a grain of salt. And what did you expect from lvl 1? the first lvls in a MMO is always about learning te basic of a game and to get you into it without overpowering you with too much at once, hence MMOs start a little slow. MMOs will always have grinding weather its quests or Mobs its a huge part of what makes the genre, what matters is do you have fun and enjoy the game while doing it ? if the quests are good enough it wont feel like a grind but with good story and lore its like reading interactive book. People have said zoning is extremly fast on even low quality PCs so cant see why you complain about this. Its impossible to have 1 huge game world with massive pvp, no real servers can handle that in MMOs. And i agree the swimming part is somewhat annoying but really its only a tiny part that probaly get a patch at one point. When i see your post i only see 1 way critic and nothing fair or positive arguments from you so of course people wont respond to you very well, remember when you critic anything you gotta do it with a open mind so people can take what you write serious. I whould recommend you to just wait a week or two after release in EU/US and see what the reviews says before you decide anything sens that what seem to fit you best, but try to relaxe abit and choose your words abit better when writing your opinion.
Okay as far as my comment on DF fans and Aion fans, that stems from reading all the posts on both forums, as soon as anyone has any type of negative opinion, they get their asses ripped for it, sorry that's just plain childish. Was it immature, to you i guess, to me it was stating an observation. Of course i expect to be learning the game for at least a few levels, but that doesn't mean it has to be boring as hell does it? So yeah i will have to wait for a trial because honestly i'm not gonna waste my money and crap anymore. As for reading reviews of people playing, its nice to see their opinions, good or bad, but i have to judge it for myself, we all have different tastes. As for my post i have yet to try the game at all so i have no opinion of it good or bad, the things i have stated are from what i have read on my own. While the swimming thing bugs me that doesn't mean it would keep me from playing, after all i love jumping in games but my first mmo didn't have that and it didn't kill me to play it. I'll have to wait for a trial, game companies don't get my money anymore unless i can decide on my own if they are worth my time or not. As for my post seeming trollish, it only seems that way to people who don't understand what trolling is, as i said people scream troll when they don't like what someone else has to say which is sad. If people are looking for just good postive posts they should probably stick with the actual Aion sites forums, while i think there can be too much negativity around here somtimes, i beleive this is a better place to see all sides of people Opinions. Oh and i never post out of emotion, i know typing things comes out wrong to some people, i only got worked up over a game once and that won't happen again. "The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." |
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6/08/09 5:27:51 AM#304
Originally posted by Vallkyra
Wow what a constructive and mature way to respond, since you do the foot work I'll finish it up.
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See Tbj28 this person just proved me correct, funny thing eh. Everyone is the enemy because they don't love the game as much as they do. I havn't even tried the game to see if i like it or not, i simply pointed out things that bug me..but omg that is bad!
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." |
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patrikd23
Novice Member
Joined: 10/17/04
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. |
6/08/09 5:30:20 AM#305
Much whine about how bad this game is from people that make *cough* 1-5 POSTS before. If you think there is no storyline in Aion you might wanna learn to read the quests. Grindfest? Erhh did you stay in starter zone and pressed tab and attack for 1 hour then decided it was bad? Quests? The quests are not just kill 10 of that, if you would have played more than passed level 5. New Skills? If you would play passed level 5 yes.. Storyline? Hell yeah if you can read english ... Boring combat? Nope since you got combo system plus have to use different skills sometimes depending on opponent. Looks like wow-manga? Erh what are you smoking? Custom you avatar? Yes Very detailed And for the rest of the I think the game sux and I only needed to play to level 5 to find out, I am happy you will not be in Aion :) And for the people I like, that means people that really try games and dont listen to what others say. Try it and find out !
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6/08/09 5:34:16 AM#306
I'll try it when they release a free trial, fair enough? =) "The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." |
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6/08/09 5:35:10 AM#307
You cant just steotype fans of 2 games like you did... fans of games will have alot of different personalities and how they respond will be very much different like people are different. So no he didne prove you right or wrong, broad generalizations are always bad and not very constructive way to go about things. When you write something especially critics, try to see how you whould react if someone did the same to a game you really where excited about, this way youd probaly end up with a better post that people can react to much better. |
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patrikd23
Novice Member
Joined: 10/17/04
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. |
6/08/09 5:37:53 AM#308
Originally posted by Scalebane
As fair as maiden :) |
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6/08/09 5:50:05 AM#309
It angers me when people compare stuff to WoW... its like oh this is a WoW Clone... First off WoW isnt even original... dont get me started on that... most the people who say this... havent even played anything other then WoW. my god man there are so meny MMO's out there that are WAY better then WoW Will ever be.
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patrikd23
Novice Member
Joined: 10/17/04
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. |
6/08/09 5:57:21 AM#310
On the 3 days of beta testing the game I leveled: Level 16 Templar Level 14 Sorcerer Level 11 Ranger Only class I didnt like so much was the Ranger but I heard it gets alot more fun after level 20 or so. I enjoyed the game overall, no game is perfect. And I will sure play in retail it will be lots of fun. |
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6/08/09 6:08:44 AM#311
I've been waiting Aion for almost 1 year. I joined the preview weekend and I was very happy. Even tough the textures weren't perfect you can't expect to have everything at max fighting hundred people in the Abyss. It was hard at start to find a mob because of so many people at the same time, but they added channels there were 7 channels at the end, if there were no mobs I just changed channels, in the last levels I leveled in group ( with my legion ) it was great. Yes, there are few skills but it's normal at start, my char is growing it's not powerful yet. I wasn't immersed in the story because of the no starting cutscene and I didin't read the quests, I will let that for retail. There were some text that wasn't very translaetd but I didin't mind. I loved the mobs fighting other mobs, and quests for morning / night. The different options : Hand the ring to the woman or to the man, pay 10,000 kinah to learn krall or follow other quests. The classes were more balabced then I expected for pvp, I could win against an assassin ( I was Chanter). There are some things I didin't like but I'm sure they will fix them : can't swim etc. I actually liked the crafting I don't usually craft on other MMOs, and the chance of having crit sucess for better item was great. Also the fact that there was no twin of me. They could put more colours to dye. True, I didin't find anything unique, but it was very polished. They must add a tutorial aswell. I'm waiting for more! |
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6/08/09 6:15:04 AM#312
Originally posted by Waterlily
"I'll go over my impressions really fast. I'm not here to write a review, I'm not qualified to do that and I won't pretend to be, I'm just going to point out issues which bother me a lot and eventually disappointed me." and the last line of your post goes like this..... "If I had to give it a score? Shrug, I guess 4/10. Anyway, I hope this helps, yes it's a very negative review, but that's how I felt about the game.<------Sure looks and reads like a REVIEW to me..Are you sure your not here to write a review lol. The game is still in beta jeeez give them time to work out the bugs...Write a pos/neg post after it's been launched.. |
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6/08/09 7:15:51 AM#313
Originally posted by Waterelfo
I'm am as addicted as you are. |
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6/08/09 7:20:15 AM#314
Originally posted by Waterlily
I think some players were expecting some sort of savior to mmo'ing but Aion is a very good traditional mmo in the EQ, EQ2, WoW, LOTRO way but with a more expanded pvp game than some of the one's I've mentioned. We didn't get to experience that part as of yet so it seems a bit unfair to evaluate the game on a preview event where people didn't get to experience the true thrust of the game. The game felt to me to be a mix of Wow, Guild Wars and Lineage 2. Hows that for a blend. It had a WoW feelign of playing, a Guild Wars feeling with the cut scenes and story and the feel of the characters were a bit GW /L2. Also, there are so many iittle bits of humor as well. For instance, there is a quest where you are told that the frill necks are invading an area and they have been causing troubles. You are then taken to a cut scene where you see a Frill Neck posturing and screaming. Normally these cut scenes just show a scene and you are back intot the game. But in this one, suddenly the frill neck runs toward you, gets really close and then there are some very close up quick movements as if it was attacking you. Suddenly, the "camera" shakes and falls to the side as if there was an actual camera man that was was taken out. I couldn't stop lauging! |
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6/08/09 7:24:56 AM#315
So it's your average Asian borefest then? Coulda told you that from looking at the screenshots. |
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6/08/09 7:31:28 AM#316
Originally posted by John.A.Zoid Exactly, I don't know why anyone's even the slightest bit surprised! |
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6/08/09 8:53:38 AM#317
This may already have been adressed here, and I know for a fact it's been brought up in earlier threads: This is an asian version. It is extremely pointless to review a game that wasn't made for you. This is like watchin a bootlegged movie and critquing the plot of the movie based on the film quality.
Idk whether your European or NA, but in the north american release the xp requirements are being changed to be a bit more tailored to Americans' taste. You won't have to deal with the silly errors in translation because this time it will be done more professionally. Honestly, I'd like to thank whomever it was who did the translating this time around because atleast it gave me the opportunity to get a feel for the game, who cares that everything didnt translate quite well- I've had no problems navigating because of it. I went in with an open mind, liked it, and this is mostly because all the while Ive been keeping in mind that this version isn't for us, it's not tailored to my tastes. Be grateful you got to play early, my goodness, and also keep in mind that all this time we have to wait for NA release, they are tweeking, translating, and tailoring to fit a more English speaking player base.
As for the whole- it's just like every other mmo- jazz. What is it your looking for? What ideas could they possibly come up with that havent been thought of before?? All you can really hope for are good variations on a theme, and there are only so many ways you can branch off. There's content, crafting, harvesting, pvp, raiding (though i havent gotten that far yet) And I personally like the fact that it's a challenge. Leveling is slower? Good, Crafting is really indepth? Good, because I don't want to get bored. Are there things that bug me about the game? Sure, i think everyone comes to a point where they say "it'd be cool if they did this, or changed that" But overall Im very impressed and it makes me all the more impatient to get my hands on my Pre-Order Aion NA |
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6/08/09 9:11:06 AM#318
Originally posted by solareus
hmmm, sorry solareus but I completely disagree. graphics are not dated at all. This game is not anything like Lineage 2 other than an Asian influence. Lineage 2 does not do everything that Aion does. Or vice versa. Two different games. I don't recall, in any of the 4+ years of playing L2 thinking that I could very well lvl with just quests. Also the word beta is just semantics. They were called preview events. They just changed the word. Lord knows why. And you are also way off base as it not being up to par with Vanguard, Warhammer. this game is a lot more polished than Warhammer. And though Vanguard has a great exploration game to it, it also plays as a different type of game. EQ is an older game so I don't see the comparison. If anything this game compares with LOTRO or WoW with a sort of L2 take with the pvp and sieges. If you don't like it great. No worries. But I don't agree with your assessment. |
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6/08/09 9:16:42 AM#319
Originally posted by Sovrath
hmmm, sorry solareus but I completely disagree. graphics are not dated at all. This game is not anything like Lineage 2 other than an Asian influence. Lineage 2 does not do everything that Aion does. Or vice versa. Two different games. I don't recall, in any of the 4+ years of playing L2 thinking that I could very well lvl with just quests. Also the word beta is just semantics. They were called preview events. They just changed the word. Lord knows why. And you are also way off base as it not being up to par with Vanguard, Warhammer. this game is a lot more polished than Warhammer. And though Vanguard has a great exploration game to it, it also plays as a different type of game. EQ is an older game so I don't see the comparison. If anything this game compares with LOTRO or WoW with a sort of L2 take with the pvp and sieges. If you don't like it great. No worries. But I don't agree with your assessment.
Lineage II, everyone hated in the English market and yet look....darn near 1 million subscribers. Seems like this game won't fail like the Age of Conan and Warhammer brothers. |
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Originally posted by woody74
Yes, it's not meant as a review. I did point out positive issues and negative issues, it's how I felt about the game. I don't write a review because I never played beyond lvl 20 and I'll admit that. But first impressions count for me and if I'm not convinced within the first few days of playing I won't be later on in the game either. |
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