I've had a disagreement with another MMORPG.com member. I say that ambulation isn't ever going to be implemented in EVE, let alone 2009. He says ambulation is already on the test server and anyone with an EVE account can test it. So I ask to see some screen shots and a link to a player review or a news article announcing it. He says he no longer has an account and is too busy to get any links or anything but manages to say "you have your head up your ass".

So you guys have EVE accounts right? What's the SP? Is ambulation actually on test server now and soon to be implemented?

Originally posted by Agricola1

I've had a disagreement with another MMORPG.com member. I say that ambulation isn't ever going to be implemented in EVE, let alone 2009. He says ambulation is already on the test server and anyone with an EVE account can test it. So I ask to see some screen shots and a link to a player review or a news article announcing it. He says he no longer has an account and is too busy to get any links or anything but manages to say "you have your head up your ass".

So you guys have EVE accounts right? What's the SP? Is ambulation actually on test server now and soon to be implemented?

Here's a link from the forums: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1060943.

The head up the ass argument is usually a sign that the person has very little knowledge or credibility and knows it but wants to feel as though he's winning the argument anyway.

No, Ambulation is not on the "Test Server" yet.  CCP does, however, have a working version of it up and running on their internal servers and even had a playable version of it at fanfest and in Las Vegas during their meetings there.   While I tend to ignore anything anyone says about Ambulation anymore it does look like they're finally getting closer to releasing it.  

But anyone who tells you that it's up on the test server is mistaken.  It's not and CCP hasn't given an indication of when it will be. 

Originally posted by Taram

No, Ambulation is not on the "Test Server" yet.  CCP does, however, have a working version of it up and running on their internal servers and even had a playable version of it at fanfest and in Las Vegas during their meetings there.   While I tend to ignore anything anyone says about Ambulation anymore it does look like they're finally getting closer to releasing it.  

But anyone who tells you that it's up on the test server is mistaken.  It's not and CCP hasn't given an indication of when it will be. 

Thanks, I always saw ambulation going the same way as atmospheric flight. They had a working demo at Leipzig a few years ago and did all kinds of stuff but it never emerged, and lets face it they'd have to change so much of the game to accomadate it that it's not going to happen. I personally believe that ambulation never was on the cards, but CCP would rather keep those that want it happy. Better to leave a light at the end of the tunnel than nothing at all, that's just my opinion though.

I dunno... It's definitely something the devs seem to want to do.  From conversations people I personally know have had with devs face to face ambulation is something they're pretty excited about and the fact that they've brought it so far along indicates, to me anyway, that they're serious about it.  Remember:  CCP is also working on a World of Darkness MMORPG so ambulation is a way of testing concepts for that game as well. 

I suspect we'll see it in the not too distant future... but my guess would be sometime in 2010 rather than 2009...

I wish people would give it a rest with the Ambulation project.

We've all seen a demo version of the feature in fanfest videos, so we know that damn thing is coming.

What bugs me is the people that refuse to play Eve talking about Ambu like its going to suddenly make Eve playable for them.

Do you guys realize that the Ambulation is a pure sandbox feature? meaning its going to be shit if the community doesn't support it.

If no one opens a bar, an arcade or one of the other shops Ambulation will be nothing but a ton of empty stations with players slow walking from area to area.

I can see it now, the forums will be filled with "Ambulation is nothing but empty stations" threads.

OP if you don't enjoy Eve in its current version, please do us a favor and ignore the release of Ambulation it will reduce the Ambu bitch posts that we need to go through after release.

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by Taram

No, Ambulation is not on the "Test Server" yet.  CCP does, however, have a working version of it up and running on their internal servers and even had a playable version of it at fanfest and in Las Vegas during their meetings there.   While I tend to ignore anything anyone says about Ambulation anymore it does look like they're finally getting closer to releasing it.  

But anyone who tells you that it's up on the test server is mistaken.  It's not and CCP hasn't given an indication of when it will be. 

 

Thanks, I always saw ambulation going the same way as atmospheric flight. They had a working demo at Leipzig a few years ago and did all kinds of stuff but it never emerged, and lets face it they'd have to change so much of the game to accomadate it that it's not going to happen. I personally believe that ambulation never was on the cards, but CCP would rather keep those that want it happy. Better to leave a light at the end of the tunnel than nothing at all, that's just my opinion though.

The difference between ambulationa nd atmospheric flight is the fact that the ambulation engine was not developed directly by CCP themselves but by the team working on the WhiteWolf MMO. CCP decided to use the engine for ambulation. I would very surprised to see ambulation miss this winters expansion release, afterall it is the only major thing in the works right now. If they don't have ambulation ready then what will they have ?

Originally posted by Agricola1

 Thanks, I always saw ambulation going the same way as atmospheric flight. They had a working demo at Leipzig a few years ago and did all kinds of stuff but it never emerged, and lets face it they'd have to change so much of the game to accomadate it that it's not going to happen. I personally believe that ambulation never was on the cards, but CCP would rather keep those that want it happy. Better to leave a light at the end of the tunnel than nothing at all, that's just my opinion though.

I expect the abulation on winter expansion

Originally posted by Lordmonkus

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by Taram

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The difference between ambulationa nd atmospheric flight is the fact that the ambulation engine was not developed directly by CCP themselves but by the team working on the WhiteWolf MMO. CCP decided to use the engine for ambulation.

afaik ambulation will use the current engine the only thing that come from external company are some dynamic lighting software

btw can you provide a link plz

Sorry I dont have a link. This was something I remember reading a while back so it could be way off. I am talking about just the graphics engine.

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Originally posted by Lordmonkus
Sorry I dont have a link. This was something I remember reading a while back so it could be way off. I am talking about just the graphics engine.

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What you're thinking of is probably the real time radiosity thing. It's just a small part of the graphics engine dealing with lighting..

I personally don't expect ambulation this winter. A 0.0 sov overhaul is a much more realistic goal.

Originally posted by batolemaeus

I personally don't expect ambulation this winter. A 0.0 sov overhaul is a much more realistic goal.

HEHE which, of course, means we'll never see it :)

Actually I kind of hope to god they don't mess with sov again.... last time they did we got cynojammed jump bridged systems defended by 10+ titans.... yeah that worked out real well for game balance.

Well if ambulation misses this winter they better have something very substantial to make up for it.

Originally posted by Lordmonkus

Well if ambulation misses this winter they better have something very substantial to make up for it.

When people make statements like this, it makes me wonder - do people want ambulation just for the sake of ambulation, or do they truly think it will add in a meaningful way to the depth of the game?  What do people expect to be able to do when they walk around?  Or do they just want to be able to admire themselves?  It seems to me that if CCP is going to add it, they'll probably want to add new content to make it meaningul and not just a lot of pointless standing around gawking at oneself.  That may be why they're taking their time.

Originally posted by bmdevine

Originally posted by Lordmonkus

Well if ambulation misses this winter they better have something very substantial to make up for it.

When people make statements like this, it makes me wonder - do people want ambulation just for the sake of ambulation, or do they truly think it will add in a meaningful way to the depth of the game?  What do people expect to be able to do when they walk around?  Or do they just want to be able to admire themselves?  It seems to me that if CCP is going to add it, they'll probably want to add new content to make it meaningul and not just a lot of pointless standing around gawking at oneself.  That may be why they're taking their time.

Do I think ambulation will truly add anything meaningful ? Yes I do, but it's going to be a slowly built upon process. Personally however I could care less about the single act of having an avatar to look at and walk around. I just really like the extra atmosphere it will add to the game and over time it will become more in depth and meaningful to the overall game.

There are those that do not play the game right now for the simple fact you are a ship and not an avatar and say they will play Eve when they be an avatar. I do not understand how walking around is going to change the game to the point that they like enough to play.

Of course CCP are taking their time to make it as right as they can, I am certainly not complaining one bit but I would hate to see ambulation slip and we get some weak ass expansion but then again it is free so I have room to complain anyways. Oh well i'm an admitted fanboi anyways so whatever CCP throws at me i'll be happy 

Originally posted by bmdevine

When people make statements like this, it makes me wonder - do people want ambulation just for the sake of ambulation, or do they truly think it will add in a meaningful way to the depth of the game? 

the thing is winter expansion is after fanfest and at fanfest CCP show you the cookie for 2 years in a row ppl want the damn cookie

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Originally posted by bmdevine
When people make statements like this, it makes me wonder - do people want ambulation just for the sake of ambulation, or do they truly think it will add in a meaningful way to the depth of the game?  What do people expect to be able to do when they walk around?  Or do they just want to be able to admire themselves?  It seems to me that if CCP is going to add it, they'll probably want to add new content to make it meaningul and not just a lot of pointless standing around gawking at oneself.  That may be why they're taking their time.

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Of course Ambulantion is meaningless, it is just a fluff content. We all know it.

BlackOps got recently ability to jump into cyno jammed systems, it took 18 months to give the ship at least somewhat purpose(not saying they are usefull now).

It will be pretty much the same with Ambulation. There will be only a few high sec station. I can guess they will be launched half finished, with limited or completely lacking features that would give you a reason to spent your time with.

Just look at T3 ships failure, Apocrypha graphical effects or QR mess...

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

Just look at T3 ships failure, Apocrypha graphical effects or QR mess...

What are you basing your statement that T3 ships are a failure on?  Not that I entirely dissagree about T3 ships but I'd be interested why you claim they're a failure?  They are selling despite being massively over-priced right now, which basically means they aren't a failure.  Or are you just mad that they aren't cheap yet?  Took Tier 3 ships months to come down when they first came into the game.  Rorqual and Orca both took a long ass time to come down in price as well, as have blackops and marauders... but the fact is these ships did come down, as will T3 ships.  T3 ships have already dropped dramatically in price in the past weeks...

So what are you basing their 'failure' on?  (like I said I dont' entirely dissagree with the statement I just want to know what you're basing your opinion on).

As to the apocrypha graphical issues... I agree.... not sure what your'e referring to with the "QR Mess" though.  QR was a fairly solid expansion with few issues as I recall.

All in all, I think Apocrypha was a major success - the best work I've seen from CCP. EVE is now as beautiful and playable as any game on the market, and clearly in a position to move forward. (probably w/ ambulation) Considering how hardcore/niche this game was a few years ago, I think CCP deserves allot of credit. Instead of crying about changes you could grateful EVE has not been steamrolled by the competition and fallen to obscurity. (Last part is just a general statement not aimed at anyone specific)

EDIT: This was posted 17 hours ago but i'm sure it's not new. Looks really good tho!

Ambulation

"Ambulation is not part of the next expansion. You´ll have to stay tuned for the blogs and things regarding the next expansion."