I humbly would like to thank the World of Warcraft Community for setting me free. I did really enjoy this game, but since WOTLK and that alot of the game content is catered more towards casuals, it has in my eyes made the community the worst I have had to see in an MMORPG. Of course, that's a pretty bold statement considering that not everyone is abusive and self indulgent, sure I agree. I also agree that you can find a good guild, and meet good friends, and it may change from server to server.

But it doesn't take a whole community for me to realise that there are some people that should honestly look at what they are saying to people, especially to people they don't know. I have been fortunate to meet some good people and to be in a good guild, but for me the community and people's outlook in the game really took me over the edge I'm sorry to say. I do not need to give any examples, but at the worst of times, you really have to wonder why an entire chat channel was devoted to making some guy look like a loser because he was new to the game and used the normal chat channel to seek help. On the two servers I was on, it was almost like everyone was out to get each other, prove to one another, and stomp on top of one another. The problem with this is that it changes people and how they play the game, it filters through the normal chat channels through into guilds, makes more people want to solo and not PUG and if grouped do it fast and quietly.

I am not saying that the overall community of other games doesn't have it's problems, in my experience, but like a disease it seems to have effected the WoW Community.

Please bear in mind that I am open to discussion on this, other players may feel differently. What are your thoughts, because to me a game's community is important. I have experienced in other games that any abusers or grievers are quickly dealt with by the community by been outright ignored and maybe even intervention by a GM. On my two servers in WoW, however, it was rampant, not dealt with or ignored, even urged on by other players at times. So...
 

Thoughts??

Man i felt the same way and that was b4 wotlk when i quit. I bet it's even worse now

Ever got kicked from a instance group because your a pro healer and the tank is really not a tank?

One ret pally at lv70 was the tank for UK with only 7081hp and i was the 70 holy pally with plenty of mana that the group never needs to stop and wait.So he goes in and trys to take aggro when hes not even prot spec and wipes himself before i can even heal.Hes always the first person to get killed,and has the lowest hp in the group.

So we tried it a secound time with me keep healing him and the party,he doesnt keep aggro and all the mobs kill the casters first the blames the healer-me when hes the one who dies in 3 shots.He gives a wow gj and kicks me out of all people from the group.

Wierd part is he wasnt the first leader,my friend was (who he was a skilled hunter) he gave lead within the middle of the dungeon.What gave him the right to kick me when its not his group?My firend replys "nothing i can do now he says you just fail at healing".He pst me later within 10 or so minutes saying "we got a nother healer but it still got a wipe,everyone is now blameing the tank".

Its the community of WoW that makes me real sick but thats not stoping me from quiting,im just going to have to live with these FAIL boats.

I noticed it getting bad shortly before TBC and it reached the point where I refused to PuG because people would constantly do stupid things and I found myself shouting at the monitor. Unfortunately the small guild I was in started to let the r-tards in so they could try the raid content and I had to leave both the guild and the game.

Now when I come back and play I tend to do solo content and PvP as I notice these types of people less.

Unfortunately, the world outside WoW has becaome cluttered with these types of self centered individuals so it really should be no surprise that it has bled into WoW.

WoW has an incredibly large population.

With a playerbase that large you will run into more asshats than a MMO with only 200-300k subs.

I myself meet some really good people playing WoW and I'm glad when I left the game they decided to come with me to Eve.

My advice would be to get into a nice guild of like minded individuals and try to reduce your Puging.

Stay away from the general population and the Stupid trade chats in major cities.

In my own personal experience on a few servers i have played on, the whole 'idiots in chat' thing is commited by a particular group of people at particular times of the day. In other words the majority of the idiotic chat is commited by the 'usual suspects' rather than by the 'community' as a whole.

I do find it a little annoying when the whole of the wow 'community' is rubbished on the back of a minority that decide to shout the loudest. For every guy who asks a question and gets shouted down on open channels there are several people that will have whispered the information he/she needed in the background. It's the whole 'media report' effect, just because you saw someone shouted down on the open channels it is easy to feel that is 'how it is' but what about all the people that were helping others at the same time as that was happening??

You can look at the wow community like a bus full of people, most will just get on with their journey, some will chat with others and take the journey together, but there is always that annoying drunk or a couple of annoying teens mesing about, shouting and swearing. Do you blame the whole bus for your bad journey that day, no you don't, you understand that it is just those particular people that are to blame not the whole bus community.

Originally posted by JGMIII

WoW has an incredibly large population.

With a playerbase that large you will run into more asshats than a MMO with only 200-300k subs.

I myself meet some really good people playing WoW and I'm glad when I left the game they decided to come with me to Eve.

My advice would be to get into a nice guild of like minded individuals and try to reduce your Puging.

Stay away from the general population and the Stupid trade chats in major cities.

Truer words were never spoken.

Originally posted by JGMIII

WoW has an incredibly large population.

With a playerbase that large you will run into more asshats than a MMO with only 200-300k subs.

I myself meet some really good people playing WoW and I'm glad when I left the game they decided to come with me to Eve.

My advice would be to get into a nice guild of like minded individuals and try to reduce your Puging.

Stay away from the general population and the Stupid trade chats in major cities.

So very true!

Every community in every game has its problems. Some games are more prone to community problems and WOW is one of them because it is so accessible but also because the population is so huge.

In every game I have played, I have run into people who make life a living hades.

But here is my advice for anyone playing WOW or any MMO: find a good guild and MAKE that your community. I am in a fantastic guild and love the community.

Heya,

It's good to get some honest and open feedback, I particularily liked Zorndorf's response and let me see if I can answer that one. Sure, the more casual a game gets, means one has more time for other things and when playing the game in their own time can accomplish more. However, I truely think that WoW in it's current state overemphasizes "being casual" to a point where instant gratification VS hard earned comes into play. There has been ALOT about the whole raid progression leading upto Ulduar; between the casuals and the hardcore. Some believe that WoW is too much handing out loot, titles that would otherwise have to take more time and more effort to get. How does this affect the community? Because as one said: It makes people become less obselete and gear more so. I mean I used to respect someone in full Tier two because I knew the effort required back in Vanilla WoW, even people complain about "Welfare" epics now as gear is so much easier to acquire.

Sure, on the whole WoW bus there is the minority and it can change server to server. I know there are idiots in every MMORPG, well the ones I have played anyhow but there's something quite disturbing about it on the servers I played on. I found it to be more constant, more out there and more rude.

WoW is a solid game for many reasons, I always was into the PVE side of things (Blizzard's expertise IMO). I guess, maybe, I just need a more mature and helpful community all round. Maybe, none can be found....in any MMORPG. 

Kind of like Jason said.. If you figure how many people are playing on the ONE server alone the number of stupid acting people are so far and few. You can come back 2 days later and no one well remember who you are. But this must be the only MMO you have every played. Their all like that. There is always someone.  Thats why their is ignore blah blah..  anyway lol its a game. For every bad one there are more good ones..

Originally posted by Zeblade

Kind of like Jason said.. If you figure how many people are playing on the ONE server alone the number of stupid acting people are so far and few. You can come back 2 days later and no one well remember who you are. But this must be the only MMO you have every played. Their all like that. There is always someone.  Thats why their is ignore blah blah..  anyway lol its a game. For every bad one there are more good ones..

I agree with you,just a game..the bad eggs in the game are mostly 15 year olds who get up before their parents in the morning and start nagging in trade chat.I pitty them i really do.

Most of the people I met in WoW were very friendly and helpful (I don't play anymore).  The chat channel retards are easily  identified and ignored.  If you want to experience a truly awful community, look no further than Drakfall.

Originally posted by Ginaz

Most of the people I met in WoW were very friendly and helpful (I don't play anymore).  The chat channel retards are easily  identified and ignored.  If you want to experience a truly awful community, look no further than Drakfall.

Darkfall?

No thanks buddy..

This is something that all players, from all games, should really take some time to consider.  I think there are many players (most players?) who do not understand the importance that the community plays in the success or failure of a game.

Originally posted by Zeblade

Kind of like Jason said.. If you figure how many people are playing on the ONE server alone the number of stupid acting people are so far and few. You can come back 2 days later and no one well remember who you are. But this must be the only MMO you have every played. Their all like that. There is always someone.  Thats why their is ignore blah blah..  anyway lol its a game. For every bad one there are more good ones..

Well, some games do have better or worse communities than others. LOTRO and EQ2 have generally nicer communities while Wow, DF and Guildwars have quite a few more morons.

But the general player is nice in most games including Wow. But it might not be chance that the games that have youngest players have more morons than the ones with oldest. Not saying that all young people are morons and all old nice of course but there seems to be more idiots aged 15 than aged 30.

And yes, I played with some nice people aged 15 also, I don't really care about age, sex, religion (unless they try to convert me) or where people come from.

But try to ignore the worst people, my ignore is any game is usually big (half of it is usually people with Chuck Norris jokes, I hate those). One thing I liked in Linage was that you had to be a certain level to access the general chat.

/signed

But I got sick of it about halfway through the BC raid content last year.  Haven't logged in since.

Zorndorf, some interesting points made.

I just have a couple of questions I'd like to ask you here:

-What aspects of WoW or details do you not like about WoW?

-This game was released late 2004. When did you start playing WoW?

-What areas would you like to implement from WoW into other MMORPGs?

-What lesson can other developers learns about WoW's success? What aspects?

-Every game has a lifespan. One can't "eat the same food" year in year out. This is called burnout. What upcoming game do you think you might try?

So you read the forums and watch as a new person gets harassed by wanna-be hardcore players and do nothing…like help the person seeking assistance. Certainly, WOW could use less of your type in game, hope you find that special game that no one gives information and watches the noobs get jacked.
Fairwell
 

I've played and stopped a few times and while I was playing mostly on my own, I of course did Instances with people I didn't know. I must say I didn't cross the path of many jerks, I few yes but not many. Perhaps I was lucky. Unless I need to trade, I usually never look at the chat because most of the time it's just plain retarded.

This time, the experience is so much better because I'm playing about 2-3 times a week but with my two Real Life friends and it's litterally a whole new experience. We are doing all instances together and we actually perform better us 3 than if we were seperatly in a random group of five.

Someone here previously suggested to build your own community within the community and that's what we did and it's what makes the experience so much better.

I had a scroll of resurrection, and logged in Saturday night.  Couple friends were still playing.  I had played since beta, but cancelled over 4 months ago, due to the horrible community in the game.

I was on for 3 hours.  We ran a heroic Culling, and it was fun, but in just those 3 hours, I ran into enough of the aforementioned community members to erase any desire to play that I might have built up during that time off.  4 months straight away from the game, 3 hours in and I'm ready to never play again.  Now THAT'S a bad community.