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20 more loot cards...come try your luck of the lottery draw.

Do any of the funds from the TCG go back into the game? 

My opinion is a resounding NO.

Originally posted by Valeran

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?&topic_id=924948

20 more loot cards...come try your luck of the lottery draw.

Do any of the funds from the TCG go back into the game? 

My opinion is a resounding NO.

 

One current player's comments seem to summarize the situation accurately:

"Unfortunately like I'm sure you have gathered, the TCG system makes them more cash. If they can keep people buying packs like crazy, that more then makes up for the subs they could lose as a result. I don't like it either. I'd rather see effort = reward rather then $$$ and luck = the best loot, vehicles, structures, etc. That's the reality I'm afraid." (from the same link as the O.P.)

That's straight from a current player; I have nothing to add.

It wouldn't be a problem is they were schematics and SOE addec great rewards in the game. The problem is all the kool items are being added in by paying for them via loot cards and again crafters get the shaft because they don't get to craft the kool new items. So basically now the person with the most money wins where as the honest people who want to play the game to get the items lose out cause shit all is being added in the actual game like these items in the loot cards.

The problem is the NGE crowd love all this because they get to just throw money at it and get them instantly and then stand outside Mos eisley going "look at my kool new items" which is pathetic. I just don't understand how developers don't take into account the effect things have on a virtual world.

The people complaining on the forums should just quit like the rest of us, if you ain't happy then show SOE with the loss of your subscription because complaining on the forum giving them $15 a month ain't gonna help.

lol moved to the veteran refuge cause it has posts that say bad about the game and the mods are SWG fanbois.

I don't know how long it is going to take some players to realise this is the future for soe games.  It was said a long time ago when they first introduced this type of garbage and some people were tripping over themselves to make excuses about how it wouldn't turn out that way.

SOE sure has enough time to crank out content for card games, real money transactions subsystems to the game and all manner of other direct payment content.  They just never realize where all the development time for that comes from. 

They really hate the community of this game to the point the Dev's them selves want to destroy whats left of SWG so theres not even a faded memory or what it used to have potential for now its a Shitty WoW clone with a Randomized Item Shop.

Go SOE should retitle it StarWars a Taste of Korea.

Why was this post moved from General?  This is a CURRENT gameplay discussion item.

Originally posted by Valeran

Why was this post moved from General?  This is a CURRENT gameplay discussion item.

strange. this really is current not vet related.

Originally posted by viralz

Originally posted by Valeran

Why was this post moved from General?  This is a CURRENT gameplay discussion item.

 

strange. this really is current not vet related.

unfortunately, i am under the impression that some of us are being moderated by our name rather than by what we post. If BadgerSmacker had made this same post over at the general it would still be there.

Originally posted by ArcAngel3

Originally posted by Valeran

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?&topic_id=924948

20 more loot cards...come try your luck of the lottery draw.

Do any of the funds from the TCG go back into the game? 

My opinion is a resounding NO.

 

 

One current player's comments seem to summarize the situation accurately:

"Unfortunately like I'm sure you have gathered, the TCG system makes them more cash. If they can keep people buying packs like crazy, that more then makes up for the subs they could lose as a result. I don't like it either. I'd rather see effort = reward rather then $$$ and luck = the best loot, vehicles, structures, etc. That's the reality I'm afraid." (from the same link as the O.P.)

That's straight from a current player; I have nothing to add.

 

The card game is the only chance SWG has to survive TOR's release.  The current players should be buying all the card packs they can afford, instead of whining about the loot cards.

The card game gets 20+ new items every couple months, while the horrible main game gets one or two new items every few months.  The update items have little to no effort into making them worthwhile because the developers don't think the playerbase will be happy with them anyway, so why bother trying?  SOE isn't focusing on the card game loot items just to piss off the playerbase, though it wouldn't surprise me if it was a factor.  They are doing it because the loot cards generate revenue.  The person who dumps $50/month into card packs is much less likely to cancel their sub than the folks just paying their monthly fee and expecting some sort of effort put into the game by the developers.

At any rate, with the cancelation of MxO, SWG's future is shakey at best.  MxO's cancelation is a change in strategy for SOE, who used to hype the fact that they still had several dead games among their service as some sort of badge of honor.  For any current player who doesn't want the SWG to follow MxO into the dustbin, break out the credit card and start buying all the card packs you can afford, because the game is still horrible enough that you can't count on the subscriptions rising to a sustainable level.  TOR will give SOE/LEC the cover to claim their destroying the game wasn't what killed it, so they can dump it and remain safely in denial.  The TCG is your only hope.

I've logged in from time to time since the TCG came out, and I'm really not hearing any dissent from players. Granted I'm playing on Star Sider, the most populous server. Having taken into consideration that Blizzard has done this with the World of Warcraft trading card game for a while, along with the other obvious money grabs, I have seen little to no opposition. I think all of the people who dislike SOE are just using this as a new platform to vent. Where was the hate when Champions of Norrath came out? I must have missed it.

Now I can't to be quoted a dozen times by the same person.

Originally posted by Koolaider

I've logged in from time to time since the TCG came out, and I'm really not hearing any dissent from players. Granted I'm playing on Star Sider, the most populous server. Having taken into consideration that Blizzard has done this with the World of Warcraft trading card game for a while, along with the other obvious money grabs, I have seen little to no opposition. I think all of the people who dislike SOE are just using this as a new platform to vent. Where was the hate when Champions of Norrath came out? I must have missed it.

Now I can't to be quoted a dozen times by the same person.

Problem is WoW and EQ have content and expansions giving players kool things so TCG doens't matter. In SWG all the new kool items are TCG and seeing as the game was based on crafters they got the shaft with the NGE and now getting the shaft for items they should be crafting.

SWG is a different kind of game to EQ and WoW.

Originally posted by Koolaider

I've logged in from time to time since the TCG came out, and I'm really not hearing any dissent from players. Granted I'm playing on Star Sider, the most populous server. Having taken into consideration that Blizzard has done this with the World of Warcraft trading card game for a while, along with the other obvious money grabs, I have seen little to no opposition. I think all of the people who dislike SOE are just using this as a new platform to vent. Where was the hate when Champions of Norrath came out? I must have missed it.

Now I can't to be quoted a dozen times by the same person.

Yobviously have not reviewed the SWG oboards concerning TCG...oh thats right...the moderators there delete/moderate any TCG thread...

This has been covered many times...Wow's TCG and SWG's TCG is comparing apples and oranges....please do your homework.

Originally posted by Valeran

Originally posted by Koolaider

I've logged in from time to time since the TCG came out, and I'm really not hearing any dissent from players. Granted I'm playing on Star Sider, the most populous server. Having taken into consideration that Blizzard has done this with the World of Warcraft trading card game for a while, along with the other obvious money grabs, I have seen little to no opposition. I think all of the people who dislike SOE are just using this as a new platform to vent. Where was the hate when Champions of Norrath came out? I must have missed it.

Now I can't to be quoted a dozen times by the same person.

 

Yobviously have not reviewed the SWG oboards concerning TCG...oh thats right...the moderators there delete/moderate any TCG thread...

This has been covered many times...Wow's TCG and SWG's TCG is comparing apples and oranges....please do your homework.

Ok, so people buy trading card packs with hopes of getting in game loot and maybe playing the card game for both Warcraft and SWG. What's the difference? Is it because there's a third party making WoW's cards and Blizzard taking a cut out of each purchace? I know there's going to be some logic behind these threads, but I really find it hard to see anything but covert nerd rage.

I practic TCG every day two hours a day. One day Im very good and will beat u. But u dont know cards cause u dun have mony.

Originally posted by Koolaider

I've logged in from time to time since the TCG came out, and I'm really not hearing any dissent from players. Granted I'm playing on Star Sider, the most populous server. Having taken into consideration that Blizzard has done this with the World of Warcraft trading card game for a while, along with the other obvious money grabs, I have seen little to no opposition. I think all of the people who dislike SOE are just using this as a new platform to vent. Where was the hate when Champions of Norrath came out? I must have missed it.

Now I can't to be quoted a dozen times by the same person.

some of today's most heated posts at the obaords:

Appease the Non-TCG players

3rd TCG Expansion Announced

how do CARDS get more expansions then the game

btw - the only time ive seen player dissent from anything in-game is when everyone camped outside Theeds starport to complain at the NGE. Otherwise, people take their frustration to the forums (that's what they're for usually - to provide feedback).

Originally posted by Koolaider

Originally posted by Valeran

Originally posted by Koolaider

I've logged in from time to time since the TCG came out, and I'm really not hearing any dissent from players. Granted I'm playing on Star Sider, the most populous server. Having taken into consideration that Blizzard has done this with the World of Warcraft trading card game for a while, along with the other obvious money grabs, I have seen little to no opposition. I think all of the people who dislike SOE are just using this as a new platform to vent. Where was the hate when Champions of Norrath came out? I must have missed it.

Now I can't to be quoted a dozen times by the same person.

 

Yobviously have not reviewed the SWG oboards concerning TCG...oh thats right...the moderators there delete/moderate any TCG thread...

This has been covered many times...Wow's TCG and SWG's TCG is comparing apples and oranges....please do your homework.

 

Ok, so people buy trading card packs with hopes of getting in game loot and maybe playing the card game for both Warcraft and SWG. What's the difference? Is it because there's a third party making WoW's cards and Blizzard taking a cut out of each purchace? I know there's going to be some logic behind these threads, but I really find it hard to see anything but covert nerd rage.

do your own homework...SWG TCG and WoW TCG are completely different beasts.

Originally posted by Valeran

Originally posted by Koolaider

Originally posted by Valeran

Originally posted by Koolaider

I've logged in from time to time since the TCG came out, and I'm really not hearing any dissent from players. Granted I'm playing on Star Sider, the most populous server. Having taken into consideration that Blizzard has done this with the World of Warcraft trading card game for a while, along with the other obvious money grabs, I have seen little to no opposition. I think all of the people who dislike SOE are just using this as a new platform to vent. Where was the hate when Champions of Norrath came out? I must have missed it.

Now I can't to be quoted a dozen times by the same person.

 

Yobviously have not reviewed the SWG oboards concerning TCG...oh thats right...the moderators there delete/moderate any TCG thread...

This has been covered many times...Wow's TCG and SWG's TCG is comparing apples and oranges....please do your homework.

 

Ok, so people buy trading card packs with hopes of getting in game loot and maybe playing the card game for both Warcraft and SWG. What's the difference? Is it because there's a third party making WoW's cards and Blizzard taking a cut out of each purchace? I know there's going to be some logic behind these threads, but I really find it hard to see anything but covert nerd rage.

 

do your own homework...SWG TCG and WoW TCG are completely different beasts.

Why would I even accept that as an answer? How hard is it to explain the simple differences between the two if they're so profoundly different?

Originally posted by Koolaider

Originally posted by Valeran

Originally posted by Koolaider

Originally posted by Valeran

Originally posted by Koolaider

I've logged in from time to time since the TCG came out, and I'm really not hearing any dissent from players. Granted I'm playing on Star Sider, the most populous server. Having taken into consideration that Blizzard has done this with the World of Warcraft trading card game for a while, along with the other obvious money grabs, I have seen little to no opposition. I think all of the people who dislike SOE are just using this as a new platform to vent. Where was the hate when Champions of Norrath came out? I must have missed it.

Now I can't to be quoted a dozen times by the same person.

 

Yobviously have not reviewed the SWG oboards concerning TCG...oh thats right...the moderators there delete/moderate any TCG thread...

This has been covered many times...Wow's TCG and SWG's TCG is comparing apples and oranges....please do your homework.

 

Ok, so people buy trading card packs with hopes of getting in game loot and maybe playing the card game for both Warcraft and SWG. What's the difference? Is it because there's a third party making WoW's cards and Blizzard taking a cut out of each purchace? I know there's going to be some logic behind these threads, but I really find it hard to see anything but covert nerd rage.

 

do your own homework...SWG TCG and WoW TCG are completely different beasts.

 

Why would I even accept that as an answer? How hard is it to explain the simple differences between the two if they're so profoundly different?

whether you accept it or not makes me no difference...it has been answered on this very board many times.  Search for it or don't.  Look for a post by archangel

Originally posted by Valeran

Originally posted by Koolaider

Originally posted by Valeran

Originally posted by Koolaider

Originally posted by Valeran

Originally posted by Koolaider

I've logged in from time to time since the TCG came out, and I'm really not hearing any dissent from players. Granted I'm playing on Star Sider, the most populous server. Having taken into consideration that Blizzard has done this with the World of Warcraft trading card game for a while, along with the other obvious money grabs, I have seen little to no opposition. I think all of the people who dislike SOE are just using this as a new platform to vent. Where was the hate when Champions of Norrath came out? I must have missed it.

Now I can't to be quoted a dozen times by the same person.

 

Yobviously have not reviewed the SWG oboards concerning TCG...oh thats right...the moderators there delete/moderate any TCG thread...

This has been covered many times...Wow's TCG and SWG's TCG is comparing apples and oranges....please do your homework.

 

Ok, so people buy trading card packs with hopes of getting in game loot and maybe playing the card game for both Warcraft and SWG. What's the difference? Is it because there's a third party making WoW's cards and Blizzard taking a cut out of each purchace? I know there's going to be some logic behind these threads, but I really find it hard to see anything but covert nerd rage.

 

do your own homework...SWG TCG and WoW TCG are completely different beasts.

 

Why would I even accept that as an answer? How hard is it to explain the simple differences between the two if they're so profoundly different?

 

whether you accept it or not makes me no difference...it has been answered on this very board many times.  Search for it or don't.  Look for a post by archangel

So are you telling me that you're not quite sure what the differences are? If you're going to counterpoint a post, at least do the poster a favor and let them know why they're wrong instead of just shouting out points from a thread tlong passed. The bottom line is, a cash grab is a cash grab, no matter how you look at it.