Originally posted by Jackdog 

As far as the poster with the "bland character customization - Barber shops and 17 or 18 different dye colors are not enough?Each character has not only slots for his equipped gear but also 2 full sets of 'costume" slots to vary his appearance on the fly as he or she sees fit? At least 1000 different types of armor ( there are probably more) arn't enough? LOL my lord,  some of you people are unbelievable

I think you are right on the outfits and apparel/gear looks but way off on the character face/body.  LotRO is really good with the outfit system, good with a variety of armor and apparel and whatnot, but absolutely poor with the faces and hairstyles and body stuff.

Originally posted by karat76

I left the game a long long time ago. While the community was good and I liked the game world there was one thing I could not deal with, the wife did not like it. Since we usually play mmos together I cancelled my account.

What game does your wife like then? Age of conan I would be surprise.

My girl friend was more into playing lotro then aion.  We should have a survey on that.

Originally posted by karat76

I left the game a long long time ago. While the community was good and I liked the game world there was one thing I could not deal with, the wife did not like it. Since we usually play mmos together I cancelled my account.

that is quite unusual, almost half of our kinship is female. Most of the women like it because of the pretty world graphics, extensive and profitable crafting system , and the wide variety of costuming and cosmetic feature. But then I guess there are a few women who like to just go out and kill shit all day too.

Not a big raid particpant, but still find the game fun and plenty of stuff to do.

They aren't turning to raiding to bring in subs.  We all know that raiding is far less popular than casual content.  They're doing this because they're lazy.  It's so much easier to put in less effort and make raiding content that is limited in scope, but is very, very high in grind factor.  Raiders will do this crap over and over ad nauseum just to get those drops, making it last longer than casual content.  In other words, they've decided to alienate their casual crowd for the raider and are content to go into niche mode.  They'll make less money, but they'll spend less money.

By the way, this fits perfectly with their desire for RMT.  Raiding is the perfect scenario for cash shops.

Originally posted by Vrazule

They aren't turning to raiding to bring in subs.  We all know that raiding is far less popular than casual content.  They're doing this because they're lazy.  It's so much easier to put in less effort and make raiding content that is limited in scope, but is very, very high in grind factor.  Raiders will do this crap over and over ad nauseum just to get those drops, making it last longer than casual content.  In other words, they've decided to alienate their casual crowd for the raider and are content to go into niche mode.  They'll make less money, but they'll spend less money.

 

By the way, this fits perfectly with their desire for RMT.  Raiding is the perfect scenario for cash shops.

You are what is wrong with gaming today.

First, they added ONE raid, making LOTRO have a grand totial of 3. Oh NOZ! On top of that, i guess this one raid completely overshadows all the other content and adjustments put into the game, like the revamp of the entire lower level zone of Bree-land, and the crafting revamp.

The only people that raid, are raiders, and the gear you get from raids, are for raiding. It, like turbine always does, is completely optional in every regards.

The RMT, is for a completely different game, please to be educating yourself.

Can we please STOP with the ignorant "OMGLOTROisARaidngGAMENoW" posts, really people. Its stupid.

Next book, we will see it not contain a raid, and be hearing that LOTRO hates your mother.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

 

You are what is wrong with gaming today.

 

First, they added ONE raid, making LOTRO have a grand totial of 3. Oh NOZ! On top of that, i guess this one raid completely overshadows all the other content and adjustments put into the game, like the revamp of the entire lower level zone of Bree-land, and the crafting revamp.

The only people that raid, are raiders, and the gear you get from raids, are for raiding. It, like turbine always does, is completely optional in every regards.

The RMT, is for a completely different game, please to be educating yourself.

my rule of thumb is ignorance is curable , stupidity is terminal

Can we please STOP with the ignorant "OMGLOTROisARaidngGAMENoW" posts, really people. Its stupid.

Ever see a game where the haters have to stretch so far to find something to bitch about, sats a lot toward the overall quality of the game methinks

 

Next book, we will see it not contain a raid, and be hearing that LOTRO hates your mother.

 Ssshhhhh don't give them any ideas otherwise before the day is over we will see a thread \with that as the title

Originally posted by Vrazule

They aren't turning to raiding to bring in subs.  We all know that raiding is far less popular than casual content.  They're doing this because they're lazy.  It's so much easier to put in less effort and make raiding content that is limited in scope, but is very, very high in grind factor.  Raiders will do this crap over and over ad nauseum just to get those drops, making it last longer than casual content.  In other words, they've decided to alienate their casual crowd for the raider and are content to go into niche mode.  They'll make less money, but they'll spend less money.

 

By the way, this fits perfectly with their desire for RMT.  Raiding is the perfect scenario for cash shops.

XD

Did you post in the wrong forum or something?  I mean there are definitely some things to gripe about in Rings but seriously what the **** does your post have to do with this game?

Their desire for RMT? Rings turning to raiding?

Heavy raiding emphasis? No...

Heavy grinding emphasis? Oh yes.

Originally posted by jimsmith08

Heavy raiding emphasis? No...

Heavy grinding emphasis? Oh yes.

once again you described efvery MMORPG in existance. All MMORPGs are grinds, it is a question of how much a variety they offer in their grinds.

or as this guy put it

www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/6110-The-Secret-of-WoW

quote:

People dismiss MMO games as "grinding" or a "leveling treadmill," but the really successful games are more like a health club with a broad selection of exercise machines than a single treadmill. Yes, there is a lot of repetition, but you can jump from one (repetitious) activity to another to keep things interesting. In the broadest sense, the activities in these games stimulate the part of your brain that enjoys creating order from chaos by getting stuff done. Only instead of doing useful stuff like the dishes or your homework, you're doing stuff like cleaning out rat infestations, gathering up resources, and building items. In the real world, the war against entropy isn't nearly as swift or as gratifying. The stuff you're getting "done" starts as short-term goals that lead to longer-term goals that lead to really long-term goals. You're always on the threshold of getting something done and getting your next reward. (And your next goal.)

When I get bored of questing or groupingh or only have a hour to play  in LoTRO I do some crafting, or grind some hides or resources for the Auction House, or work on some faction rep or a work on a deed or something.

Originally posted by jimsmith08

Heavy raiding emphasis? No...

Heavy grinding emphasis? Oh yes.

Wierd, I havent grinded since Mines of Moria release.. and I play almost every day :) 

Originally posted by Jackdog

 

He heals quite nicely and I have proven time and time again I can outheal other minnies who have all the "leetest" equipment. Lotro is 70% skill and 30% gear in my opinion, espeacially the more complex classes such as Guardian, Minstrel, LM, Wardens and RK's. We had a "leet"innie in our kinship once. He was teh first to 60, the first with a full set of radience gear, the first to finish all his books andoyu know what? He could not keep a group alive for squat and it got to the point to where instead of asking him we would use any other 50+ minnie in the kin for our groups even if they were rarely played alts.

First grats that you are such a skilled healer. Clap Clap Clap. Shows how much more gear means compared to AoC. /rolleyes

That someone so clueless as your described ""leet" innie" actually manages to be first at 60, be first to collect full top gear, first to finish all books and so on shows how much "skill" one needs in LOTRO and was a good reminder why i will never log into this cookie cutter middle earth again.

 

And I think you mean your idea of fun as I also pointed out you are in the minority. I don't see Turbine pulling a NGE anytime in the near future as long as their player base is as strong as it is.

havent read what "his" idea of fun is, but how can he be in the minority? does the majority of human beings find lotro fun? Ok thats not fair does the majority of human beings with a PC + internet find lotro fun? Ah hang on - does the majority of human beings with a PC + internet + a faible for MMO's find lotro fun? NO!

As hard as it might be to believe, but finding lotro fun actually puts YOU in the minority.

 

This game is excellent.

To me, I think LOTRO was a above averaged quality game, although the Follow mode was poor but I played 2 accounts at that time. I have had lot of fun from this game until Lorthien. 

I can not accet tthe big nerf,  because that was all I earned since I started to play LOTRO, to me, I think Turbine could created more stronger mobs rather than to nerf on player side. Obviously, Turbine ignored player's virtual assets and  not even respect the players once.  

At the first day of the nerf, I quit my both accounts even though the subscription was not expired. I didn't want to buy permanent subscription because I don't trust this game because I don't think the game will entertained me for very long time. 

I am playing Warhammer now, even though it is poor quality but I will not go back to LOTRO.

I have to agree not much about the new bk impressed me personally but I think it is good for those who like raids and such,  I certainly don't expect every book to be focused on my particular likes and dislikes and can live with this one not doing so since every other book included a variety of things for me.  The biggest problem I have with this post is the fact that you eluded to one problem I have with all mmo players in general, why do we break our necks to rush through anything new added into the game and then complain about how short repititous it is etc..  I personally had many things going on before and during the release of Moria and then later Lothlorien and I didn't touch either of them for atleast a few weeks but most players are quick to drop what they are doing burn through the new content in 2 weeks or so then complain about it.  My question then becomeswere you at a point where you thought you might quit just before the release of new content?  And if not why the need to quit when you bore yourself on the new content? If you've played for months on the things that already existed in game why now that a small part has been released would you feel the need to quit the game when everything else that you played through up until that point is still there?

Regardless whatever you are up to now I hope you enjoy and I hope that future books and expansions can meet your satisfaction.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by OoMpAlOmPaZ

 I agree the mentality of turbine forcing us to raid is lame

 

Um, they are not.

 

Because a book has some raid changes, all the sudden the whole game is about raiding? You guys have to be kidding me. Turbine always has done a good job of adding new content, new features and yes sometimes a raid.

Big deal.

Whats funny is, the gift box changes were asked for because people did not enjoy the high risk high reward system it previously used.

 

It's Ok if the change is not for you, but to say this is the "new direction" is just plain old fashioned drama. Pure drama. Especially when you are ignoring the crafting revamp, the continuation of the storyline, and the upcoming skirmish system, the bree-land revamp (in this book).

 

 

 

Mr Bloodworth so often speaks from a base of common sense, how does the addition of 4 or even 6 raids make the game all about that? I actually think it only natural and a good thing for them to attempt to pull in players for what seems to be the hot thing in mmos which is raiding, it is something I don't indulge in matter of fact I haven't done a single raid in the game and certainly haven't felt like I now have nothing to do.
 

 It is purely the "keep up with the joneses" that most people get I even read a post on here where I guy claimed to have breezed through all of the new content since lothlorien in three days and I have to say honestly that if you do that nothing will truly satisfy you or you are the luckiest person in the world (might want to try the powerball) it's like buying an album and listening to your favorite song on the album for 3 days straight what do you think will happen if you do that? Chances are good that song will lose it's luster for you.

  I still have to ask the detractors who played the game up until the expansion did you in fact not like the game and only hung around in the hopes that they would add an entire years worth of content? If that's the case you only fooled yourself.  I've already stated for my taste raids don't do it and I pretty much decided once I saw a bunch of raids were the feature this book wasn't for me but after having played for over a year I cant see anything wrong with the content that already existed which I have been more than happy with even without a strong affinity to Moria.

  Instead of running down there and getting one cow you guys should maybe try walking down and getting them all if you get my meaning and if you don't there is no wonder why you burn through additions in days and all of a sudden judge a great porduct overall on a tiny part that was added later.

They' re really only adding one raid though.  I know the dev refers to all three as being raids but the other two dungeons, unless I'm misreading something, are for three man groups.  Meanwhile, since they used the term raids for all of them there are people running around saying Rings wants to turn this into a raiding game! Or, Rings is adding three raids!!??!!   Wtf, who has time to form 12 man groups all the time if that's all Turbine is going to add to the game!

Seems like this Book is a rather good addition to me but I suppose that's all a matter of opinion.  The trailer for the Book is rather lame though.

Been playing lotro for about a month now.... 4/6 rad   2 awesome 2nd aged... i can buy a 1st aged weapon if wanted... got kindred  with cara and got the white horse before i even hit 60......    pretty much seen everything but vm.

somethings are still really cool. just seems to get a lil repative... maybe i just been playing to much at a time

im still playing off the little spark i have for this game... but as days go by i feel it slipping away...  still tryin to hold on... pvp was fun for a little while.. but it really depends on the time of day to pvp.. for me atleast. i like the bigger raids. 

Originally posted by milkyy

Been playing lotro for about a month now.... 4/6 rad   2 awesome 2nd aged... i can buy a 1st aged weapon if wanted... got kindred  with cara and got the white horse before i even hit 60......    pretty much seen everything but vm.

somethings are still really cool. just seems to get a lil repative... maybe i just been playing to much at a time

 

im still playing off the little spark i have for this game... but as days go by i feel it slipping away...  still tryin to hold on... pvp was fun for a little while.. but it really depends on the time of day to pvp.. for me atleast. i like the bigger raids. 

One month and you've done all of that already? Yeah you need to slow down, it's no wonder the game is starting to lose it's shine to you.

Originally posted by leinad312

Originally posted by milkyy

Been playing lotro for about a month now.... 4/6 rad   2 awesome 2nd aged... i can buy a 1st aged weapon if wanted... got kindred  with cara and got the white horse before i even hit 60......    pretty much seen everything but vm.

somethings are still really cool. just seems to get a lil repative... maybe i just been playing to much at a time

 

im still playing off the little spark i have for this game... but as days go by i feel it slipping away...  still tryin to hold on... pvp was fun for a little while.. but it really depends on the time of day to pvp.. for me atleast. i like the bigger raids. 

 

One month and you've done all of that already? Yeah you need to slow down, it's no wonder the game is starting to lose it's shine to you.

Heh yea thats crazy! I cant even imagine how many hours / day he must be playing. How can you even get all the deeds/class traits/ legendary traits in such short time? Must be plenty your character is missing.

But I agree that MoM is missing a large raid. Thankfully we will get one this month...