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  ktanner3

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5/23/09 6:43:37 PM#1

 Where do you grade this movie and why?

I give it a B. It was a fun and enjoyable experience and has obviously re-invigorated the franchise. The only reason I give it a B instead of an A is because of the fact it's a reboot. 

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  Brenelael

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5/23/09 7:23:48 PM#2

I gave it a B also but only because I did have a problem with some of the story elements being a long time Trekkie. If I had never seen anything Star Trek before it would have scored an A+ easily however. Overall I absolutely loved the movie and the elements that I found odd were very small when considering the overall movie. I personally think JJ Abrams did a great job and I can't wait until the next one.

 

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  madeux

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5/23/09 7:27:10 PM#3

I gave it an A, because I chose not to take away from it just because it's a reboot.  In fact, I gave it an extra point because it's a reboot.  The Star Trek series needed to be refreshed, and I'm looking forward to a new series in this new direction.  The cast was great, with the exception of Chekov.  I'm a huge Simon Peg fan (Scotty).

  DragonShark

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5/24/09 2:58:06 AM#4

 I gave it a "D". I thought the plot was extremely thin and contrived. The almost non-stop action really grated on my nerves after a while. There was far too much Star Wars throughout this film. The sets were very poorly designed, with the lens flares being just awful. And I think it would have been better off if they had just declared it a reboot rather than try to (poorly) tie it into real Trek.

I did like the characters, and they have potential, but only if writers actually give them a story worth doing.

Despite the numbers, I don't think this has invigorated the series at all. Like all purely-action flicks, I think this has an expiration date on it, at which point audiences will get bored with the concept, as they do with nearly every other action franchise.

It needs more.

  mackdawg19

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5/24/09 3:04:38 AM#5

Bleh, at first I thought this was some sort of game review/preview. Why are we talking about the movie on a gaming site? Are there not movie sites you can do this on. I guess we should talk about the horrible looking figurines next, eh?

  mystic_ben

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5/24/09 3:04:44 AM#6

but the starship enterprise moves at the speed of plot. I'd give it a B- solid grounds for another movie to expand on

  purewitz

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5/25/09 2:20:16 AM#7

It has given me a new found respect for Star Trek. As a kid I gave up on Star Trek, when Next Generation and DS9 got canceled.

When we get back from where we are going, we will return to where we were. I know people there!

  Terranah

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5/25/09 2:27:24 AM#8

I give it a B.  I think it was good, definitely worthy of a sequal.  As a hardcore trekie I didn't mind the reboot at all.  I hope we get another TV series out of this somehow.  I love, love Star Trek. 

  daarco

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5/25/09 2:38:12 AM#9

I give it a A, and i hate Star Trek! Why a "A"? Because it was a damn good movie. And that is what its all about. I dont care if it is a reboot. Everyone knows what these characters "have" done. You know them already : )

  Neanderthal

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5/26/09 4:58:37 PM#10
Originally posted by DragonShark

 I gave it a "D". I thought the plot was extremely thin and contrived.


 

Me too. But I would give it a "C" because I didn't feel like walking out on it but I also don't feel any particular desire to watch it again.

The thing that always bugged me about Star Trek was that it's filled with techno-babble but the writters never think things through very much in terms of real science.

That whole thing about the star going nova and destroying the planet and then those miners blamed it on Spock who was actually trying to help, geez.  If the star was going to go nova they would have had plenty of advance warning.  They would know far, far, far in advance.  I'm talking hundreds or thousands of years in advance.  Plenty of time to evacuate the planet.

And then the miners blamed it on Spock?  Don't they have some sort of News service or something?  You'd think word would have gotten around that he was coming to try to stop the nova.

But ok, yeah, I can look past that stuff and the movie was ok but it didn't really grab me and suck me in.

  solarine

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5/27/09 7:36:01 AM#11

C.

It's a well-crafted action movie that's also pretty artificial and devoid of a single original or interesting idea. It's just plot for plot's sake: the story has no inherent meaning, its sole concern is how it's related to the franchise itself. Even the drama has no substance in and of itself, it's just a play on genre and franchise schematics. Really, what does the film tell us? What perspective does it have except the quite superficial "it's OK to cheat" and "dammit, you have to strike a balance between logic and emotions"?

Also, Abrams obviously goes old-school Star Wars here to get to that audience that's been traditionally out of Star Trek range, but without the all-important archetypes and an informed perspective on "hero's journey", the epic-making rings hollow.

To me the Star Trek franchise was not exactly the most intelligent science fiction, but at least it had some original ideas. This one is just filmcrafting brawns.

In effect it's nice to look at but quickly forgotten.

 

  ktanner3

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5/28/09 2:12:46 PM#12
Originally posted by purewitz

It has given me a new found respect for Star Trek. As a kid I gave up on Star Trek, when Next Generation and DS9 got canceled.


 

I give the edge to DS9, but both were favorites of mine.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2009&p=.htm

Looks like Star Trek is neck and neck with Monsters and Aliens for top grossing movie in the states this year.

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  iltycat

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5/31/09 11:40:41 PM#13

OMFG you people are evil!

D= I wanna see the movie!

It's not fair!

 

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  Raxan

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6/01/09 3:06:49 PM#14

I gave it a C, mainly because I like Star Trek, the downside for me was the juvenile behavior of Captain Kirk's character.   James T. Kirk was a maverick but never a juvenile.  But I guess that acting in Sci-Fi movies will never be top drawer (my opinion of course). Too bad because Sci-FI is my favorite genre.

 

 

  User Deleted
6/01/09 3:11:10 PM#15

 I give it a solid B+....fun, entertaining.

Only a few things annoyed me.  Scotty's sidekick character.  Kirk and gang going from cadets to starship captain (and main crew) in a matter of hours.  Building starships (that are incapable of atmospheric flight)  in the fields of...Iowa.

Anyway, I try not to let little annoyances like this detract from forms of entertaiment.  It was good, I just wasn't blown away like a lot of people.

  BarCrow

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6/01/09 3:27:05 PM#16

I am no Trekkie or Trekker. I do like and have seen most Trek. I will not give it higher than a "B". It was excellent but I will respect the presence of all living cast members of the original..because they are the "A" cast. Just for my own reasons. Hey...a "B" is better than most movies should  earn these days. As for thin plots. Sorry..but I can not think of any truly deep Star Trek episodes..or movies...OS ,TNG, DS9,Voyager or Enterprise . Science Fiction of this sort is not rocket science. Did they hit me emotionally at times?...sure...but not really because of any depth of plot. What most of the old stuff did contain was a sense of relevance to the times and events..parallels that can be made to real life events and attitudes..etc.. Which the new movie lacked.

  rsreston

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6/02/09 1:41:46 PM#17
Originally posted by DragonShark

 I gave it a "D". I thought the plot was extremely thin and contrived. The almost non-stop action really grated on my nerves after a while. There was far too much Star Wars throughout this film. The sets were very poorly designed, with the lens flares being just awful. And I think it would have been better off if they had just declared it a reboot rather than try to (poorly) tie it into real Trek.

I did like the characters, and they have potential, but only if writers actually give them a story worth doing.

Despite the numbers, I don't think this has invigorated the series at all. Like all purely-action flicks, I think this has an expiration date on it, at which point audiences will get bored with the concept, as they do with nearly every other action franchise.

It needs more.

Totally agree. It needed more. It needed to have the Trek part. Part they forgot about a long time ago. Now it's only Star wars... You even have the Enterprise fireing phaser like a machine gun - what happened to the laser beam sweeping from one end of the phaser slit to the other??

Alternate realities are lazy plot devices for writers. It has to be the reason of the story, not its Deus Ex-machina. Lots of science and logic breaches, still disrespect for the original series... Spock in love with Uhura?? Come one!

Good acting though. And I loved most of the visual and sound.

As an action movie, it is great. As Star Trek, it's not - it's a mere "alternate" story of how it all began. As it is, I gave it a B.

What Star Trek needs aren't movies, but TV series that keep catering to its original audience: science fiction fans and those interested in good stories. Action, drama are just consequences of stories well told. And obviously, other media like quality comics, books, quality games.

  BloodDuality

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6/02/09 1:59:06 PM#18

I really enjoyed the new movie, and felt it was much better than the past next generations movies. After first contact the franchise has gone down hil a bit for me. This new movie is a way to help give Star Trek new like in the same way that Batman Begins gave new life to the Batman series. I ended up giving the movie an A and even though some of the acting wasn't perfect I still found it enjoyable and would like to see it again. Lets hope they make more.

I also like the set design, really glad they didn't try and reproduce the sets of the original series.

  ktanner3

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6/03/09 9:51:02 PM#19
Originally posted by BloodDuality

I really enjoyed the new movie, and felt it was much better than the past next generations movies. After first contact the franchise has gone down hil a bit for me. This new movie is a way to help give Star Trek new like in the same way that Batman Begins gave new life to the Batman series. I ended up giving the movie an A and even though some of the acting wasn't perfect I still found it enjoyable and would like to see it again. Lets hope they make more.

I also like the set design, really glad they didn't try and reproduce the sets of the original series.


 

Yeah thank goodness for that. Trust me when I say it's even better the second time you see it. ;)

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  Gscully

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6/06/09 1:04:45 AM#20

I gave an A, It had a lot of humor that ngen and the rest seemed to avoid.

The one plot flaw (of many) I disliked was that Chekhov was even there. This same error was in Wrath of Khan too, Chekhov was not in the first season, WoK was, so when Chekhov said "I remember you" in WoK he is lying. He wasn't in the episode.

But that litle tidbit didn't ruin the fun I had watching it.

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