Originally posted by gamer008

should i just wait for aion instead?

I got an L2 trial code when I preordered Aion at the NCSoft website. It's just a trial, but a good way to at least try the game nonetheless, if you are leaning toward Aion. Plus it will give you something to do until launch :)

 I love Lineage 2, and its not to late to start. Im planning on reactivating my account this weekend, after a six month break.  Lineage 2 is one of my favorite MMOs of all time, and you really should give it a go.

 However, claiming that WoW doesnt require any skill is just ignorant.  I think  WoW has some of the best created raid bosses/encounters in any MMO, and they require planning, cordination and players who know how to play their class to get them down. Ill mention Lady Vashj  and Kael'thas back in BC or the Four Horsemen,  Yogg-Saron and
Algalon the Observer from WOTLK.
WoW has content that is challenging for many different type of players, and on different "skill levels".

Originally posted by gamer008

should i just wait for aion instead?

Hey OP,

I am going to disagree with everyone who is saying it is not too late to start. It is far too late to start unless you want to play a game all by yourself. The starting zones are empty and you will not reach the level where most players are unless you play consistently for a year or you buy illegitimate services. You may go out into the starting zone and see lots of players, but the vast majority of these will run in "trains" and never respond to you because they are either gold farmers or bot users. You are far better off waiting for Aion because it will have a large influx of players where everyone is equal instead of trying Lineage 2 where you are always going to be behind everyone.

I disagree with the poster above me, I had played lineage in c2 until last year, and they have come a very long way. I reactivated two months ago, and started a new character on a new server since my old server was boring me. It is very easy to level from 1-40, solo and in about a week. Once you hit 40, there are plenty of people to group with to do raid bosses, or do dungeons together. It might be a bit harder since there are alot of level 70+ but if you can get into a good clan, and they help you a bit, you can get 60 and do seiges and raids and stuff like that. The people that say the economy is fucked are entirely right, but ncsoft did try to fix that, by adding common gear, which is like mid grade gear that is somewhat easy to farm for. There are quite a few bots but they are always easy to kill and honestly nobodys opinion is going to really make or break the game for you, you may as well try it, since there will always be l2 fans, and people who dislike it.

all this talk makes me want to play again, but  about how long will it take me to level to 70 area, from starting afresh? I probably could put in about 10 hours a week, maybe a bit more, just because class is starting next week.. Would I even have a chance of getting anywhere?

Honestly 10 hours a week you would hit 70 in like a year. It takes a really long time, most mmo's require more than 10 hours a week but I mean it won't take away from the game too much, it just will take forever to hit 70+ :P

Originally posted by Panther2103

Honestly 10 hours a week you would hit 70 in like a year. It takes a really long time, most mmo's require more than 10 hours a week but I mean it won't take away from the game too much, it just will take forever to hit 70+ :P

will not take that long, for sure.

Originally posted by Panther2103

Honestly 10 hours a week you would hit 70 in like a year. It takes a really long time, most mmo's require more than 10 hours a week but I mean it won't take away from the game too much, it just will take forever to hit 70+ :P

WOW are ever wrong as are all the people saying the bots are rampant, getting to lvl cap will take forever to get. Basically getting to lvl 20 takes about 20-25 min depending on the class. Getting to 30 takes a 3 to 4 days if you play casual, getting to lvl 40 takes about 2 weeks casual, lvl 50 about a month, lvl 60 same, lvl 70 takes about 6 months casually. With the expansion just came out a few months ago, the play factor is still good, best to get into a guild, because you will need help on something. I say give it a try while waiting for Aion.

Are you so sure about that? I definately played hardcore for about 3 months straight and only hit 60 so, getting to 70 on 10 hours of playtime a week? how is that wrong to say about a year, it would be longer than that. I just did the math 520 hours of playtime in a year, would not get you to 70. I mean maybe if you got the perfect groups with raid bosses. And the game is still rampant with bots, its just player bots its not gold farmers, and saying were wrong when you don't play the game anymore? Okay.

Originally posted by DevilXaphan

Originally posted by Panther2103

Honestly 10 hours a week you would hit 70 in like a year. It takes a really long time, most mmo's require more than 10 hours a week but I mean it won't take away from the game too much, it just will take forever to hit 70+ :P

 

WOW are ever wrong as are all the people saying the bots are rampant, getting to lvl cap will take forever to get. Basically getting to lvl 20 takes about 20-25 min depending on the class. Getting to 30 takes a 3 to 4 days if you play casual, getting to lvl 40 takes about 2 weeks casual, lvl 50 about a month, lvl 60 same, lvl 70 takes about 6 months casually. With the expansion just came out a few months ago, the play factor is still good, best to get into a guild, because you will need help on something. I say give it a try while waiting for Aion.

Why do people always exagerate so much?  getting to level 20 takes like 3 hours if you have a twinked toon and know everything about the game already.  In 20-25 minutes you can get from the starting room to the first town, maybe level 6 if you don't bother to do anything except grind as fast as possible.

And to the OP.  Its only worth it if you play with friends.  You will never participate in end game content like PvP.  By the time you get that far everyone else will be gone.

Originally posted by Alternation

Originally posted by DevilXaphan

Originally posted by Panther2103

Honestly 10 hours a week you would hit 70 in like a year. It takes a really long time, most mmo's require more than 10 hours a week but I mean it won't take away from the game too much, it just will take forever to hit 70+ :P

 

WOW are ever wrong as are all the people saying the bots are rampant, getting to lvl cap will take forever to get. Basically getting to lvl 20 takes about 20-25 min depending on the class. Getting to 30 takes a 3 to 4 days if you play casual, getting to lvl 40 takes about 2 weeks casual, lvl 50 about a month, lvl 60 same, lvl 70 takes about 6 months casually. With the expansion just came out a few months ago, the play factor is still good, best to get into a guild, because you will need help on something. I say give it a try while waiting for Aion.

 

Why do people always exagerate so much?  getting to level 20 takes like 3 hours if you have a twinked toon and know everything about the game already.  In 20-25 minutes you can get from the starting room to the first town, maybe level 6 if you don't bother to do anything except grind as fast as possible.

And to the OP.  Its only worth it if you play with friends.  You will never participate in end game content like PvP.  By the time you get that far everyone else will be gone.

 

If it seriously takes you 3 hours to get to level 20, I don't even know what to say. That's an exaggeration if I've ever heard one.
 

Even playing casually, I can get to 20, untwinked, in less than 2 hours.

Edit: just noticed the last part of your post. I shouldn't have even wasted my time responding to you since you're obviously a troll.

I have gone 1-20 + CCQ with every class except Human/Warrior and the Kamael classes (I have done Warden, though), and from my experience:

1-20 takes about an hour to an hour and a half (this includes lv20 class change quest), if you know what you're doing....

...except for Orcs, which take a little longer because you have to kill a ton of mobs for one of their pre-20 quests (fighter or mystic, doesn't matter).

Elven Oracles might be able to hit 20 + class change in less than an hour if and only if you get lucky with the orc chief spawns in the lowbie Elf land quest. But even then there's no way you'll make it in 20-25 min.

Is this game still worth playing for newcomers or move on to another mmo?

Originally posted by benatu

Is this game still worth playing for newcomers or move on to another mmo?

Definatly still worth playing for new comers.

It just depends on what you are looking to do tho.

If all you really want is all out end game pvp, then id say pass. It would take you 4ever to be able to compete.

Originally posted by gamer008

should i just wait for aion instead?

if you got an old computer l2 is prob better if you got a recent computer (3 year old then aion is better 

that being said ,if you play l2 try to get the asian version i think 

why?theres an area in the world that still play religiously this game us moved on but lot of gamer still play 

i think its korea

L2 is almost exclusively focused on depth with very little attention paid to breadth. And the L2 dev team seems more than content to keep adding more and more end-game content exclusive to higher and higher level-capped characters, never even stopping to consider the idea of broadening L2's gameplay.

It's not like Eve where a new character can spend a few million skillpoints specializing in x to compete with the big dogs. L2 is an extremely elitist game... the end-game takes months of linear, hardcore grinding (or years of casual grinding) to reach, and end-level characters are infinitely more powerful than lowbies (across the board). And none of the top clans will even look at you until you're already there.

So unless you are willing to spend thousands of hours on grinding and dollars on adena, you'll never be more than a nonfactor. If that doesn't bother you, then no it's not too late to start in L2.

I dont know if its too late but for me I am done. Afther 4 years of Lineage 2 I am finally going to walk away. The reason why is because the glory days are gone. Now the games population is dying and there is no fun in the game anymore. I have waited years for NC Soft to bring an expansion that designed from low - mid levels but each time they are geared toward end game. I am S Grade but I dont like the direction the game has gone. They have made the game easier for new players to go from low - mid level but doing that also took away what made Lineage 2 special.

Lineage II - the legend, the one. ; P