Sorry to say but it looks like DF is going to die.

The had the shop open for 2-3 days now(?)  and a few weeks back it would sell out in the span of 5-8 minutes.

People are leaving ...people are not buying ......meh

Lets hope another company buys this game out.

Originally posted by Gekko101

Sorry to say but it looks like DF is going to die.

The had the shop open for 2-3 days now(?)  and a few weeks back it would sell out in the span of 5-8 minutes.

People are leaving ...people are not buying ......meh

 

Lets hope another company buys this game out.

It's still open?  Since I already bought it, I can't see if it's open or not without creating a new account.

~Ripper

Originally posted by Nirvy

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/sho...d.php?t=189437

 

So Tasos said they had 100,000's of people waiting to sign up and their were running the game as a paid beta till they could get more servers up in the US.

But now it seems darkfall is officially released today, and anyone can buy the game anytime, except... well no new servers are needed!! The dev's say their one server can handle all their subs. Their one server that is already jam packed full and lagging each night.

So Basically, it was rubbish about how many people wanted in, instead they have 1 server, maybe 10-15k subs and thats it. No rampaging hordes of PVP'ers wanting in. There are no more servers opening, there is no hordes at the gates waiting to get in, this is it, no more servers, no influx of players.

What MMO has told the 100% truth about their game? For the few that play its the best, its epic, blah blah.. enjoy ..

To the best of my knoweldge, the store has been open continuously since Tasos announced it midday Wednesday, US time zones. I've played through a few short sessions since that happened and I've still yet to see more than 20 total players in or around Akathos.  There do appear to be new players, but I've yet to see any significant numbers.  At most, I've seen 3-4 other playrs at the hard goblin spawn, 1 - 2 at the scout spawn by the beach.  I haven't witnessed any significant influx of new players, whatsoever.  Maybe I should delete my char and create others so I can check out the other starter cities, too...

~Ripper

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

As a huge fan of this game I think if the population has not already started to decline it will soon.

These reviews, and posters who are just mad that someone might like this game are going to be a killer on this game.

If internet hate could kill a game, WoW should have been dead long ago. Nobody but Adventurine will be to blame when this game dies.

Originally posted by Raknar

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

As a huge fan of this game I think if the population has not already started to decline it will soon.

These reviews, and posters who are just mad that someone might like this game are going to be a killer on this game.

 

If internet hate could kill a game, WoW should have been dead long ago. Nobody but Adventurine will be to blame when this game dies.

Dang!! Snap!!

Now, try to convince the Fanbots (dang, I finally used that term) of that.

Originally posted by Murashu

You are comparing WoW's millions of players to DF's thousands? Does any other MMO have WoW's numbers?

Sure, Prefect world have a lot more. But it is an unfair comparison, that is true. DF should be compared to Vanguard or something smaller game instead.

But Avi do have handled the release badly and lost a lot of potential customers on it, I never heard of a game that released in this way before. True that Spellborn released in EU first and Wow for that matter in Us but to only open up one server and only sell a limited account at certain hours? That sounds more like U2s concert tickets than a computer game.

It is however very possible that they had a 100K waiting in line at releaseand not so many interested now, the reviews havnt been that great (I seen 2/10 and 4/10 so far) and most of the forum posts are not that good. Also more than a few players tried it and either decided to wait until they fix the release problems with the game or didn't like it.

They need to open up a free trial so people can try the game, and that of course means that they will have to open up more servers or offer a limited numbers of trials every 1 or 2 weeks depending on how long the trial is. Avi have themselves said that everyone wont like this game, it is for a specific kind of playerbase and that makes a trial a lot more important.

They must get more players into the game or they might as well close down. They could also lower the price or give away the game with a one week free play, and then make the players who like it start paying monthly fees, they would still earn more money on that in the long run.

This game must have 100K players or so in a few months, or at least min 60K, or they just will lose more and more money. It costs to have a MMO running, and to have people adding content and fixing buggs (the last thing actually costs more). As I see it is some kind of trial the only cheap way to get more players fast.

Originally posted by Murashu

You are comparing WoW's millions of players to DF's thousands? Does any other MMO have WoW's numbers?

Lineage 2?

Maybe it falls short by a couple of mil. subs but it's pretty close IMO

devs need to get some cash quickly before MO releases or it just pull the plug

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

As a huge fan of this game I think if the population has not already started to decline it will soon.

These reviews, and posters who are just mad that someone might like this game are going to be a killer on this game.

BS.

It comes back to the devs.

If AV had put out the game they hyped for all those months/years, if Tasos' non-stop hyperbole had been something more than hot air and lies, and had the game been maintained in a more professional manner, DF could well be doing much better.

If it fails, then it's because AV fucked up and let it fail. Period.

As has been said, if negative feedback alone was enough to take down a game, there'd be a lot more games going offline than there are.

Stop looking for scapegoats and put the onus where it belongs: Tasos and Aventurine.

Originally posted by Murashu

Originally posted by gnomad1

Originally posted by Axllow18

I'd put my money on Rhinok.

 

I second that motion.

I see more people in 10 minutes standing around the mailbox in Stormwind then you will see in 4 hours in Dork-n-Fail.

Hell there are more people in the AH's in WoW at 4AM then you normally see in an entire city in DnF during prime time. Yes the population is low and the world is empty. It is empty of players and empty of NPC's / MOB's. I couldn't believe that there were normally 5 NPC's in an entire city. Why even have any NPC's? Why spend so much time building such immense, ornate, lavish cities and put nothing in them but empty space?

The more I play the more I understand the 9+ years for this game to come out. They spent it making background eyecandy and forgot to put in the game part.

You are comparing WoW's millions of players to DF's thousands? Does any other MMO have WoW's numbers?

No... He's comparing the number of *people he sees standing around the mailbox in Stormwind*, or *in the Auction Houses at 4AM*. Those are both small areas, especially the little corner the mailbox is tucked into in Stormwind. I saw maybe 15-20 people around each respective area most times when I was playing. Though it should be obvious, thousands, much less millions, of players are not crammed around a single mailboxe or in an auction house.

See, this is one of the problems with DF fans when they try to defend DF, or counter anyone else's posts. They either don't read the post thoroughly before replying, or they deliberately take a statement out of context (ie. quote mining) so they can attack it.
 

 FYI - still no significant player population increase in my starter city...

~Ripper

Originally posted by SEANMCAD

As a huge fan of this game I think if the population has not already started to decline it will soon.

These reviews, and posters who are just mad that someone might like this game are going to be a killer on this game.

Who cares if people like the game of not.  This is MMORPG forum and posters give their opinions without regard to the outcome.  Darkfall is trash.  That is why the population will decline. 

Originally posted by rhinok

 FYI - still no significant player population increase in my starter city...

~Ripper

Well that is sad to hear. I was hoping there would be a significant increase. It would be the only way I would buy the game to try it out.

I really don't want to feel like I wasted money on a game with a stagnent or declining population.

Well I'll give it a couple more months to see what happens.

Originally posted by warty

Originally posted by pwnzorellOr

Originally posted by Respit

Just a guess, but turn-over has reached the point where having the shop open 24/7 is necessary.

 

I am sure it's all the fault of that embicile Zitron though. Considering he cut off Tasos's man err, livlihood.

 

a moderator on the official forum posted that the shop isn't open permantly, maybe they didn't sell enough copies yet, dunno. he also wrote that the server doesn't crash anymore when too many people try to login at once, so there is no need for queues anymore.

 

this is the worst logic ever. how bad must the login server be to crash the game. how bad must it be that you queue, not to play, but to LOG IN

seriously flawed there mate, either you're chatting bear breeze or this really is the worst fucking game ever programmed

 

If the queues were so the login could cope, there wouldnt have been a limit to in game players, there wouldnt be a need to limit sales. quite honestly it shouldnt take over an hour to log in, do you understand that part.

so mr forum poster for urine again must be lieing about something.

 

sony come on do your thing, buy this game off of the pos devs, put a team who atleast knows wtf an mmo is in charge and get cracking on the cheaters. with you know, some kind of anti hack mecanism OH WAIT ITS CLIENT SIDE DUH YOU CANT PROTECT THE DATA

 

I wish this game was good, the concept is awesome, its excution is fail far beyond words normally used to describe fail :(

Hell the only thing soe can offer is deep pockets, name me one game that is better off for being run by soe with the exception of those that would have closed down without their backing.

Matrix online is no different than when they bought it Vanguard is getting better but it is still run by the same people who created it so it's not as if the input of soe made a difference there.

The game was entertaining for a month or so...then it became more and more mundane and boring. Now people are quitting and the game still is a huge pile of doo.

The game is dying and sadly i'm not sure if AV has the will or resources to turn it around.

Originally posted by Electriceye

Originally posted by Murashu

Originally posted by rhinok

As for the queues, the servers are pretty empty, which is why queues aren't a problem.

~Ripper

 

I'm not sure where you are getting your info but I just started playing Friday and the server (there is only one) is far from empty. I play from 6pm to 11pm CST and have to travel 20 minutes away from the newbie towns to find camps that aren't crowded.

I understand some people aren't happy with the game (the devs made a niche game for a targeted audience) but posting false information as fact just discredits everything you write.

 

This is getting reaaaally old and I won't even bother trying to explain it for the hundredth time.

But I'm going to say that this is NOT the reason why most of the people arent resubbing/trying the game.

If you aren't gonna bother explaining why then what's the point of posting as some like me have no clue of what you are talking about.  From what I know a vast majority (myself included) focus mostly on pve which from what anyone who plays or played this game know is totally lacking, now it's one thing if you can point out a single article where they acknowledge the games strong point is pvp and that fixes are in the works but most people who aren't happy with this piece of vaporware are usually told we just aren't hardcore enough for the game and that it is not made for "us" that's the sentiment from both the current player base and the devs.
 

Dude this game has absolutely no lore to speak of just a few generic races that hate each other for who knows why and not a plot in sight as has been shoved down our throats numerous times "the fun is in the politics" hell I can play mafia wars for free if I just wanted to back and forth pretend like I'm at war with something.

Originally posted by Otiro

Originally posted by rhinok

 FYI - still no significant player population increase in my starter city...

~Ripper

 

Well that is sad to hear. I was hoping there would be a significant increase. It would be the only way I would buy the game to try it out.

I really don't want to feel like I wasted money on a game with a stagnent or declining population.

Well I'll give it a couple more months to see what happens.

As you noted in my Clan Count post, the clan count hasn't increased significantly in the last week, even though the store has been open for a week.  There are still people who want to buy the game, but it's obvious they aren't lining up for it anymore.  The starter zone I'm in still has a very, very small population.

As for the game itself, I've posted long detailed thoughts and experiences.  In a nutshell, there definitely are fun aspects, but the game, as a whole, needs a lot of work.  I feel that it's closed beta quality, at base.  I explicitly say "closed", because an open beta game should essentially be the gold candidate for release and I don't feel Darkfall is release ready.  Personally, I wouldn't recommend buying it.

~Ripper

Originally posted by Murashu

Originally posted by rhinok 

Trolling? False information? Please...

With the exception of those clans actively sieging, what other significant number of players are actively playing at any given time? Not many. 

~Ripper

 

Yes you provided false information. You posted that the servers were empty and I pointed out that you were incorrect.

Using your numbers, 10k people on one server is not what I would consider empty. Again you are only counting players in clans and leaving out all of us that haven't joined one yet.

Maybe we have different definitions of what a crowded area is but when I go to each of the camps outside a starting city and 5-10 players are fighting over the 5 mobs that spawn there, I would say it's crowded. If each race(6) has 3 starter towns and those 18 towns are surrounded by multiple camps with 5-10 people in each one, again I would say those areas are far from empty.

Could DF benefit from more people? Yes! Are you doing anything to help the DF gaming community by spreading false information? No!

Where's Tasos? It's his job ultimately to do something to help the DF community not anyone on these boards.  I've read posts like this before and it's always in games floundering AOC,Vanguard,WAR etc. but truth be told I think this game is in much worse shape than any of the ones I mentioned above some have the financial backing to improve and most if not all are not as devoid of content as this game and the only one who had a dev less appealing than tasos got rid of him Guate anyone?

Within 2 months Tasos will be replaced in the hopes of keeping this game running for another month or two but as I stated this company doesn't have the financial backing funcom does so I doubt it will make much of a difference.  This train wreck is highly likely coming to a tragic end much sooner than later.

One question people look at this game as it is currently and then please logically explain to us non believers what in the blue hell have they been doing for the past ten years?

Originally posted by jaxsundane

 One question people look at this game as it is currently and then please logically explain to us non believers what in the blue hell have they been doing for the past ten years?

Drugs, booze, women, cars (they had a rally car BTW), partying. Sure as hell not coding.