Originally posted by Beatnik59

Ents should have never been made into buff merchants...not Pre-CU, not now.  It turns the profession into something that resembles a broken doctor profession...a doctor that takes tons of time and a contrived process just to get people the things they need.  And the buffs don't do much to make entertainment more valued in SWG.  In fact, the buffs just make entertainment into something that isn't very entertaining...for the buffer and the buffee.

In fact, everything that was ever wrong with the entertainment professions can be traced back directly to the enhancement abilities. It is simply something that is too antithetical to what entertainment should be about in SWG.

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I suggest an option to fix the system and the people whine that it's perfect and totally fun and not broken. Yet when the entertainers and doctors are offline they request for NPC buffers, no thats not a broken system at all.

Originally posted by Valeran

Originally posted by Beatnik59

Ents should have never been made into buff merchants...not Pre-CU, not now.  It turns the profession into something that resembles a broken doctor profession...a doctor that takes tons of time and a contrived process just to get people the things they need.  And the buffs don't do much to make entertainment more valued in SWG.  In fact, the buffs just make entertainment into something that isn't very entertaining...for the buffer and the buffee.

In fact, everything that was ever wrong with the entertainment professions can be traced back directly to the enhancement abilities. It is simply something that is too antithetical to what entertainment should be about in SWG.

 

I think what I liked about the entertainers is the battle fatigue and mind wound healing mini system.  It gave people reason to go to the cantina and was a great way to congregate and socialize.

a system no other game had. i had as much fun socializing in the cantinas as i did in combat.

Yeah, not because I like pointing out SOE logic fails but still the list of things to focus on and fix surely contained something more pressing. And possibly more agreeable.

Outside of that, I enjoyed going to cantinas and talking with ents. The people behind the characters were always a certain kind of player. Social, chatty and colorful. It added an aspect to the game that I never knew I would like nor miss when I played other mmos. Socializing was and probably still is one of SWG's greatest strengths. The automated versions of them kinda took out that aspect and turned it back into sort of a catridge based static world for me. You know, like the old and young women in Zelda 2 who refilled your health and magic. Automated and 2 dimensional.

Walking up to an Ent and having them ask about what you were doing immersed you into the game. Though I will give points to the creative macro coders who made a whole production out of the afk routine.

Still nothing beats watching Ma'at and Total Eclipse do a show. It took the profession to a whole new level.

Look at that cheap nasty looking UI.

Needs to be changed before I give the game another try, along with the horrible targeting system.

i think i know what would make the game more fun to play

32+ professions unlockable alpha jedi and pvp battlefields

oh wait we had that when the game was swg before it became the nge

Originally posted by kefkah

Yeah, not because I like pointing out SOE logic fails but still the list of things to focus on and fix surely contained something more pressing. And possibly more agreeable.

Outside of that, I enjoyed going to cantinas and talking with ents. The people behind the characters were always a certain kind of player. Social, chatty and colorful. It added an aspect to the game that I never knew I would like nor miss when I played other mmos. Socializing was and probably still is one of SWG's greatest strengths. The automated versions of them kinda took out that aspect and turned it back into sort of a catridge based static world for me. You know, like the old and young women in Zelda 2 who refilled your health and magic. Automated and 2 dimensional.

Walking up to an Ent and having them ask about what you were doing immersed you into the game. Though I will give points to the creative macro coders who made a whole production out of the afk routine.

Still nothing beats watching Ma'at and Total Eclipse do a show. It took the profession to a whole new level.

We had macro dance/music routines that were amazingly intricate.  Crazy pyrotechnics (lights, holograms, smoke shows), a range of instruments, amazing dancers, bandflourishes galore.  It was unreal to be in a well choreographed entertainer concert.  It was kind of like being KISS lol.  The cantina band in the first StarWars movie had nothing on us :).

Also, when I wasn't on my entertainer character, I liked nothing better than healing my battle-fatigue while chatting with some entertainer friends about the evening's exploits.  It was a great way to wind down before logging out and heading to bed.

My three favourite characters were my Master Entertainer/Master Musician, my MasterTKM/MasterDoc/MasterBrawler and my tie fighter pilot ^_^.  He was a noob, but flying a tie fighter with buddies on ventrilo was fun as hell.

Originally posted by John.A.Zoid

Look at that cheap nasty looking UI.

Needs to be changed before I give the game another try, along with the horrible targeting system.

Yeah, sorry about that, Zoid. It was the only pic I could find of Ma'at and the band on my ranger site. She played the NGE until a few years ago when everyone else she knew left. Last I heard she was trying to test out Stargate Worlds and waiting for the resurrection of the PreCU.

The game is dead ...

Hands down, ent was the best profession in that game. Yes, I loved my TKM/Pike stacker but...you could take ent to a whole other level. I have never played another game that allowed that much depth to any profession. Probably never will. Even with all the changes SOE made to ent over the years, I'm actually pleased that they never took out macro's or group flo's. Without either, the profession would have been as one dimensional as the rest. If there is one thing I have to give SOE/LA credit for, it is entertainer. I wish other games would follow their lead on that. The social aspects alone are priceless.

Below are a few performances. These took amazing team work. Even if you didn't write the macro's and aliases, staying on cue and executing things at the proper moment took a lot of hard work. The people in bands like Talus Moon, Astral Fantasia, and Total Eclipse were very dedicated performers and it showed in their work. Anyone who witnessed a performance by these three Eclipse bands never forgot it.

Band Practice-Total Eclipse

Eclipse Grand Ball-Total Eclipse

Christmas in SWG 2006-Total Eclipse

Party Time's Eclipse-Talus Moon/Astral Fantasia

Originally posted by ArzhAngel

The game is dead ...

  Up is Down?   Hehe games a long way from being dead, I just logged off and my main servers are even more populated than they where 5 months ago.    Got a itch to try out the new battlefields and found a prepaid card in a store.    Long story short Im having a blast, just changed out my old houses for the windowed ones, and man is it cool to have the locations I got with windows.    I have some of the best property on the lake near theed.      Well I was suprised by how many thier are on my main server Sunrunner, its population is growning, I saw a couple hundred transfers, and about 30 new toons grinding it out in Eisly.  

Then I went over to my transfer too server Starsider and couldnt even count how many thier were in Eisly, it was one big cluster of people, maybe about 500.     Games a long way from being dead.   And thiers already rumors floating around about the big announcement coming with the Vegas party.     People are wondering if its going to be a new expansion or even game.   Since SOE is hiring for a new flaggship game, Im hopeing for SWG2.    But in anycase things are picking up on the populated servers.     It was a good break I took, funny how things seem like they dont change, then a few months away, your trying to catch up to all the new things.    Im looking forward to a good weekend of pvp in the new battlefields.   

If you don't find the game fun, why in the world are you paying for it? Quit already. Let SWG die. Let that blight on integrity and potential die, for god's sake.