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5/19/09 6:45:51 AM#41
Originally posted by maritpra
Are you serious? EVE is the most hardcore mmo pvp? I never play EVE, currenlty i'm playing WAR but i found out that WOW pvp is the most hardcore and really need SKILL. WOW arena is the best pvp MMO, it's fair fight the different between win or lost is only player skill(I assume that you already have top pvp gears since they are very easy to get). Ohh dear, So basically you are saying if 2 teams have the best pvp gear the game has to offer then WoW is the most hardcore and takes the most skill and the WoW arena is the best pvp mmo? Ok I wont get into EvE or any other more open pvp game but just to show how little sense that really makes,compared to wow arena what is the difference then when 2 teams in a WAR scenario are evenly matched or in AoC pvp mini game were again boith teams are matched? Not a hell off alot is the answer,you press your spell/attack wait for it to be cast ,cast next spell move onto the next..rinse repeat,at least with AoC and WAR the healers have to be in a cone range for there heals to work were as WoW the healer can stand just about anywhere and spam his heals. Sorry but having played alot of games I really dont see your stance that "WoW pvp is the most hardcore and really need skill"...the skill bit really threw me. |
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5/19/09 6:51:46 AM#42
Originally posted by maritpra Dude you lose your ship and any cargo you may have in EvE when you die.... In PvP they get to loot your cargo. That is was makes it Hardcore. Also skill is usually the last thing the decides the outcome of a fight in WoW. And I hate Eve... I think It' boring as hell.  |
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5/19/09 7:00:42 AM#43
@op: I also played WoW for years and quit (a couple times). I've been trying to find another game for a few months now. The only one I actually ended up spending time with was LOTRO. I downloaded every trial and f2p I could find and if you're anything like me, I would just tell you one thing - don't waste your time. I don't think (and this is purely my opinion) there is a mmo out right now that lives up to the standards of a long time WoW player. Currently I play some CoD4 and get my WoW fix on naxpgaming servers. I'm waiting for Aion, SWTOR, Global Agenda, D3, SC2 and I'm about to give Warrior Epic a shot, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Some f2p games that I found playable, but still didn't hold my attention were: Runes of Magic, Free Realms, Wizard101, Dungeon Runners, Requiem Bloodymare, and Fiesta. Good luck to you edit: I forgot to mention that those games probably wont have the PvP elements you're looking for. You can try WAR like the post below says, but I didn't care for it. Might want to take a look at Mortal Online |
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5/19/09 7:09:28 AM#44
This has probably already been suggested (I skipped several pages), but I think that Warhammer Online would be a good game for you. I played it for two or three months, and in my opinion its PvP (they refer to it as "RvR" or realm-versus-realm) is much more robust, balanced, and well-rounded than WoW's. Further, you're able to immerse yourself in it at every stage of leveling as there's essentially a number of battlegrounds for every level bracket (you can earn substantial experience doing nothing but PvP), and the PvP bleeds over into the game world. As their tag line goes, war really is everywhere in that game. Overall though, and this is to be expected as it's still relatively new by MMO reckoning, Warhammer Online is very shallow in every other respect compared to WoW. Questing, events, crafting, etc. It basically focuses on one thing (PvP) and does it extremely well, and only pays a passing after thought to every other staple of the MMO genre. Just my opinion of course, mileage will vary. So if that sounds like your cup of tea I can't suggest it highly enough. |
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5/26/09 11:35:28 AM#45
Try Everquest 2. From the many P2P mmogs that I've played, it offers players an unique experience, and it's very well done. Just get past all the bonus SOE throws at you, just in case you were a newbie - to try and hook you up, and you'll discover the wonderful world of Norrath.
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5/26/09 1:36:27 PM#46
Originally posted by maritpra
I can't tell if you're kidding or not. WoW PVP is so horribly unbalanced and more depends on class composition and gear than skill. And this coming from a priest rated in the 2ks (yes taking the easy road with a rogue). But to claim it's all based on skill is laughable. |
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5/26/09 2:38:12 PM#47
Originally posted by DragonMyth88 Mortal Online = First Person MMO = Fail
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5/26/09 2:40:41 PM#48
Originally posted by halldorr
I can't tell if you're kidding or not. WoW PVP is so horribly unbalanced and more depends on class composition and gear than skill. And this coming from a priest rated in the 2ks (yes taking the easy road with a rogue). But to claim it's all based on skill is laughable.
He is kidding, not even the top 10 players in WoW arena tournament would agree with that statement. Just ignore it. In all honesty and I hate to say it, the most balanced and hardcore arena based game is Guild Wars. Now that is actually a pvp game that takes "skill" all characters are created equal, and only your brain and ability to combine skills determine if you live or die. WoW Arena = Garbage |
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5/26/09 4:19:24 PM#49
Originally posted by DragonMyth88
yea but the game actually is successful= people love it. How many people will QQ about that fps only view, even if it's already announced as at now?
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5/26/09 4:23:09 PM#50
I know how you feel.. it's not just a good game you're looking for - it's a game that you can adept other aspects of your life too. The other games like eq2, warhammer and all the rest don't really appear all over the place. Everywhere you look is Wow stuff, Wow jokes, Wow Pictures, Wow Gold, Wow this, Wow that and Wow players everywhere. That is what feeds your addiction and your commitment to Wow. You feel like if you played a different game - everybody else is playing Wow so what's the point of playing 'insert random game here'? I bet if EQ2 was as widespread it would be the same. Wow even has a Southpark episode dedicated to it.... So you get me? What I'm trying to tell you... unfortunatly, you're going to have to wait for Aion... like the rest of us
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5/26/09 8:05:24 PM#51
from what i ve heard aions ment to be pretty good . i think a lot of ex wow players will end up there and proberbly some current ones . if you want something to tide you over try and get some of the less popular ones on ebay like i ve done i ve got 5 months in conan for a fraction of the price and monthly fee through buying the game cheaply and a couple of 60 day time cards . its actually not as bad as i remember in its beta now . eve has a 3 week trial thats ment to be pretty good if you like a game with a spaceship scifi setting . warhammer has 10 days free trial now , i would nt say its the best mmo but its fun to play if you like constant pvp battleground like scenarios . also even less popular games like vanguard have some sort of trial now it might be fun to try them out if your bored . gut instinct from the limited negativity i ve heard in forums is that aion is going to be big and most likly the first real challenge to warcraft in the four years since its release . |
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5/26/09 8:14:40 PM#52
Give LOTRO a try. They have a free trial now.
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5/27/09 1:33:29 AM#53
If your a disillusiond MMO player looking for somewhere fun and exciting to spend your time untill somehting new catches your interest.
Take it from me as a veteran MMO player since 2001, Ive basically tried everything and nothing has held my interest (other than EQ and SWG pre CU) like....dont hate...EQ2
EQ2 has grown into an amazing game with something for everyone, from soloers to Raiders and everyone in between. I wouldnt lie to you guys give it a try you can get all the expansions for like 20 bucks and it has a living and growing community thanks to WoW refugees.
So give it a try untill your new MMO comes out, you wont be disappointed, and hell, if Aion or whatever your waiting for dosent work out, the lovely people of norath will be glad to take you back ! The new EQ2, better than ever befor ! |
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5/27/09 4:43:19 AM#54
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Aion is going nowhere as a Korean mmorpg with winged people. Could you really see it on top of PC games being sold for the next 2 years ?!? Of course not. And that is simply needed to have 1M western subs in the long run. No way José. Expect a battle between Blizzard and Bioware in 2010/11, but Aion will be under 300K subs in the western world. No Lore, no name and Korean mmo culture (ough). You know a lot of European fantasy/myths with "wing grown creatures"??? EQ2 experimented with that and it was ... painful. OP: as a change try PotBS or EVE (depending on your intrest). But get back in time to see the fall of the Lich King by winter time. ;)) Oh and BTW: open world PvP was never better than today in Wow's WotLK. Blizzard has actually problems on their hands to keep players OUT of Lake Wintergrasp. Too many players ...
Obvious Aion hater is hating big time,gb2wow plz and seriously if you are clueless about mithology/fantasy,you should not mention those words,here is some very common stuff tho - ragnarok,odin,valhalla,dragons,egyptian demons ,just the icing of the cake,I wont go any further than mentioning those key words,go and read up if you are truly intrested. |
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5/27/09 4:55:44 AM#55
Seems you were living under a rock when Darkfail had 10 people with 30-50 accounts each just hyping it and dehyping everything else.
Seriously gb2wow. |
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5/27/09 5:25:14 AM#56
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Aion is going nowhere as a Korean mmorpg with winged people. Could you really see it on top of PC games being sold for the next 2 years ?!? Of course not. And that is simply needed to have 1M western subs in the long run. No way José. Expect a battle between Blizzard and Bioware in 2010/11, but Aion will be under 300K subs in the western world. No Lore, no name and Korean mmo culture (ough). You know a lot of European fantasy/myths with "wing grown creatures"??? EQ2 experimented with that and it was ... painful. OP: as a change try PotBS or EVE (depending on your intrest). But get back in time to see the fall of the Lich King by winter time. ;)) Oh and BTW: open world PvP was never better than today in Wow's WotLK. Blizzard has actually problems on their hands to keep players OUT of Lake Wintergrasp. Too many players ... have you actually played aion ? i mean i hav nt but i m keeping an open mind . i m not a great fan of eastern mmos i ll admit but i m intreagued by the lack of negativity about this game by those that have played it . when you look a single player games it does nt really matter if they come from the east . i mean the final fantasy series is enormously successful . personally i dont care if its tolkienesque fantasy like warcraft or weather its eastern fantasy like final fantasy . as long as its a good game . actually it ll be refeshing not to see an elf /dwarf/tauren around every corner . i share a lot of the ops view myself . i ve been playing warcraft for 4 years ( on and off ) and the game is nt as good as it once was . the problem is blizzard have made everything too easy leveling to 60 used to be fun but because its so fast now between the levels 20-60 its nearly impossible to do instances at those levels on most servers which was half the fun . levels 60-80 are somewhat better i ll admit . also when you get to level 80 epics are so easy to obtain . because the battlegrounds now give great honor weather you win or lose . people dont bother learning the tactics . i ve recently decided to take a break . i do intend to return for a month later in the year just to finnishing getting a few welfare epics for my two main characters via the battleground . warcrafts just not worth playing regulary now . after all once you ve done the quests a bit of raiding and got some decent gear its pointless playing . because everything you have now will be out of date by the time of the next expansion . warcrafts something i stil enjoy now and then i ll proberbly play it sporadically for years to come . of course if aion really is the next big thing or some other game comes along which expands the mmo genre and is fun to play . there wont be much point going back to an increasingly dated game such as warcraft will there . |
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5/27/09 5:29:48 AM#57
Originally posted by PSXfile
lord of the rings is nt a bad pve game . the reason i avoid it now is because i had a few problems with codemasters charging my paypal account after i cancelled via the accounts page . unfortunatly by the time i noticed what happened a couple of months had lapsed and they refused to refund me , even though they could see i d not logged into the game over that time . from what i ve read a few people have had similar problems so if you do decide lotro is for you i would go down the time card route . |
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5/27/09 6:06:04 AM#58
You'de better realize the fact that there is nothing better than WoW on the market at this point. I've gone to hell and back to find a new MMO but i am always comparing them to Warcraft. I recently played Chronicles of Spellborn but got sick of it after 15 levels. Tried Battlefield Heroes and had a blast for two weeks, but after level 16-18 or so it got boring (why do they even have levels in this game?) So now i am desperatly waiting for Star Wars The Old Republic to arrive since SWG was my first true MMO love. Before that i am going to try out Champions Online if it ever will be released? Was also thinking of Everquest 2 which however have outdated graphics, but it does seem to have a lot of the elements i liked in SWG so we'll see... there's a trial on for EQ2 so maybe i'll give it a shot? About a year ago i played Warhammer Online which i liked, but again got tired off. Also tried the LOTRO trial and initially fell for the game due to the beautiful scenery. Before this i went into the the realms of Age of Conan -- kinda nice game but lacking on many fronts. There really is a MMO jungle out there, escpecially with all the Korean free-to-play games, so good luck to you! ^^ |
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5/27/09 7:56:10 AM#59
Originally posted by Zorndorf I doubt Aion is the next big thing, because of Korean "Lore" and winged avatars. It is all about hype again (as for the 12th time in a row...). But look at this graph...with an "open mind" and for ONCE don't believe the (paid) hype.... Even to devotees it is not holding much ground ... http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion_The_Tower_of_Eternity/ ..... Staggering ain't it ? I would call it the "known free 4 weeks fall of new hyped mmorpg's".... Any explanation??? from the fans ? ----> except for the fact we already saw this in AoC Beta, War Beta... Expect the next big thing to be the new Bioware and Blizzard MMO's. Until then you can always play a niche game, but there is only one mainstream till 2010/2011. Perhaps GW2, but save the money on the rest please. They simply are NOT worth it, unless you want something niche with a theme like PotBS. Dude it's like clockwork. Why is it that everyone of your posts point to sub number links or Xfire activity? Give Aion a chance man, It's only been released in like two countries. Must you start on every game that might be better than Wow so early? Playing: EvE, Ryzom |
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5/27/09 7:56:52 AM#60
Originally posted by madeux
Wait for Aion to come out in September, it already has 3.5 million subs in Asia. I was in Chinese OB, it's insane... quite similar to WoW, except it's just a lot better. |
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