fanbois should be happy that at least the game got reviewed by other source and got 4/10. it would be a lie if the game gets a better score at this point.  The best they can do I guess is continue to pay the monthly sub and hopefully the game improves.

Originally posted by Wizardry

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Wizardry

Who cares if anyh of the sites mirror Eurogamers?the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied.

Then there is the FACT that not everyone agrees on everything,so for every site you find that agrees,you can find many that don't.

What i have seen is actual BS posting for the most part,people LOOKING for the negative of DF,instead of just looking at the game for what it does .I don't ever remember TAOS saying his game was ground breaking,or that they have the best graphics around or they have the best animations around.

I do not get all wound up on DF,because i knew from the beginning what this game was about and what is had to offer and it was nothing that appealed to me.So in essence i could find a ton to complain about,but it is a game that is not designed to be fun for me,so i would be biased in my opinions.

As an outsider looking at DF,i really don't see the fuss ,as IMO there is no such thing as a good PVP game anywhere in the RPG genre,as it DOES NOT belong in the RPG genre.PVP is something that SHOULD be relegated to the FPS genre,that is why it has so much drama and fails on so many fronts,and it DOES fail and not just in DF,but every RPG game that tries to use it.

 

Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?

 

 

That was already addressed,because the reviewer used other ACTUAL reviewers to fake his own review.It is VERY easy to do,and i bet has been done before this Zitron guy.

Excuse me?
 

When was this addressed?  When did he use other actual reviewers to fake his own review?  What reviewers, and what reviews?  I'm sorry, but what you wrote is a bigger lie then the Eurogamer review. 

Maybe you didn't understand what I said.

If the guy at Gamereactor pointed out the exact same things the Eurogamer review did, how can Ed be lying.
He can't.

Care to actually back up any of what you said.
Fanatic delusions don't count as proof btw.

anyone intersted in RL hardcore sandbox ......goto a Slayer Concert and try to keep up with the crowd at the center while the band plays :P(if realy hardcore scream"IM EMO")

Seriously , all you ppl just let it be , all the DF review topics starting to smell like royal poo. All you "haters" just take a look at Tasos comments and sorry to say that his t. appearance ..be wise and leave those fanboyz who have found theyr playground in DFO ..in fact be glad they are playing it and not playing somewhere else

And to the fanboyz play ur game ..make once ina while a reality check  and remember that youre actualy paying for the game(that hasnt even been officialy released ,,its still in some phase isnt it )and more important you invest time ---lifetime--wich is naturaly more   valuable than some $$$ fee's.

Originally posted by CoffeeGrunt

anyone intersted in RL hardcore sandbox ......goto a Slayer Concert and try to keep up with the crowd at the center while the band plays :P(if realy hardcore scream"IM EMO")

Seriously , all you ppl just let it be , all the DF review topics starting to smell like royal poo. All you "haters" just take a look at Tasos comments and sorry to say that his t. appearance ..be wise and leave those fanboyz who have found theyr playground in DFO ..in fact be glad they are playing it and not playing somewhere else

And to the fanboyz play ur game ..make once ina while a reality check  and remember that youre actualy paying for the game(that hasnt even been officialy released ,,its still in some phase isnt it )and more important you invest time ---lifetime--wich is naturaly more   valuable than some $$$ fee's.

 

 

I fell asleep at a slayer concert.  No joke.

Sexy little goth chick was sitting next to me.  When I woke up she asked if I was sleeping; I told her ya, she got mad. 
Apparently she'd been flirting with me for half an hour.
I guess it was to dark to see my eyes closed, and to loud to hear me snooring.

m8 was ment like a metaphor ...btw if you fall asleep at slayer (theyre still one of the loudest with motorhead and AC/DC live ) concert youd visit a hearing doctor :)

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Originally posted by Izure

He said the game is made for pvp. And he is right...

Yea. And here-in lies the rub.  Most people have held such a damn myopic view as to what the breadth and depth of pvp actually means by pigeonholing into this corner of one player(s) in combat only with another player(s), then a game comes along, not unlike some others, but pushes that envelope of the true meaning of dynamic and broadly implemented pvp as one that is all-encompassing, for the most part, and they cant handle or have an appreciation for the player-driven ecosystem; something that really transcends just linear combat of one player(s) against another.

 

This really is a competitive and dynamic pvp game where trade, diplomacy, city rule, region influence, resource gathering, crafting, adventuring, etc. is player vs player and player with player driven.

 

 As an added edit.  It aint going to be for many players at all due to the relaxed and safe code-driven content and game-play of most other mmo's, I think.

See, this is where the fanboys are always wrong.

We don't hate the game because it is pvp focused, we don't hate it because it is brutal and hardcore.  We dont' hate it because it isn't quest-driven or themepark.

Re-read the review.  The reviewer hates the game because combat, animations, menu's and gameplay are very primative and simplistic.  This is 2009... if Darkfall had come out in 2001, it would be acceptable but still annoying.  The whole menu system is just badly designed.  The skill system and craft systems are boring and too easily exploited.  Combat is a circle-jerk click-fest with none of the strategy other games offer.

The only part of the game that is interesting is the chat/social system which can be found in any other game.  Even games like WOW have 'guild wars' based on out-of-game forum postings, which is all that DF has.

Originally posted by Alandora

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Originally posted by Izure

He said the game is made for pvp. And he is right...

Yea. And here-in lies the rub.  Most people have held such a damn myopic view as to what the breadth and depth of pvp actually means by pigeonholing into this corner of one player(s) in combat only with another player(s), then a game comes along, not unlike some others, but pushes that envelope of the true meaning of dynamic and broadly implemented pvp as one that is all-encompassing, for the most part, and they cant handle or have an appreciation for the player-driven ecosystem; something that really transcends just linear combat of one player(s) against another.

 

This really is a competitive and dynamic pvp game where trade, diplomacy, city rule, region influence, resource gathering, crafting, adventuring, etc. is player vs player and player with player driven.

 

 As an added edit.  It aint going to be for many players at all due to the relaxed and safe code-driven content and game-play of most other mmo's, I think.

 

See, this is where the fanboys are always wrong.

We don't hate the game because it is pvp focused, we don't hate it because it is brutal and hardcore.  We dont' hate it because it isn't quest-driven or themepark.

Re-read the review.  The reviewer hates the game because combat, animations, menu's and gameplay are very primative and simplistic.  This is 2009... if Darkfall had come out in 2001, it would be acceptable but still annoying.  The whole menu system is just badly designed.  The skill system and craft systems are boring and too easily exploited.  Combat is a circle-jerk click-fest with none of the strategy other games offer.

The only part of the game that is interesting is the chat/social system which can be found in any other game.  Even games like WOW have 'guild wars' based on out-of-game forum postings, which is all that DF has.

what is this chat/social system whereof you speak?

and um, you really don't know how bad the items you talk about are, unless you've been playing.  anyone that says anything about darkfall is because of "realism" is a complete and utter moron. 

you know those groovy background animations?  like grass and trees blowing in the breeze?  picture the largest redwood you can find... now picture THAT tree, swaying gently in the breeze, from about 1 foot off the ground, to the top of the tree... not sure what category hurricane would make a huge tree like that "sway in the breeze" from a couple of inches above the roots even... but that wind isn't blowing anything else around...

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by Alandora

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Originally posted by Izure

He said the game is made for pvp. And he is right...

Yea. And here-in lies the rub.  Most people have held such a damn myopic view as to what the breadth and depth of pvp actually means by pigeonholing into this corner of one player(s) in combat only with another player(s), then a game comes along, not unlike some others, but pushes that envelope of the true meaning of dynamic and broadly implemented pvp as one that is all-encompassing, for the most part, and they cant handle or have an appreciation for the player-driven ecosystem; something that really transcends just linear combat of one player(s) against another.

 

This really is a competitive and dynamic pvp game where trade, diplomacy, city rule, region influence, resource gathering, crafting, adventuring, etc. is player vs player and player with player driven.

 

 As an added edit.  It aint going to be for many players at all due to the relaxed and safe code-driven content and game-play of most other mmo's, I think.

 

See, this is where the fanboys are always wrong.

We don't hate the game because it is pvp focused, we don't hate it because it is brutal and hardcore.  We dont' hate it because it isn't quest-driven or themepark.

Re-read the review.  The reviewer hates the game because combat, animations, menu's and gameplay are very primative and simplistic.  This is 2009... if Darkfall had come out in 2001, it would be acceptable but still annoying.  The whole menu system is just badly designed.  The skill system and craft systems are boring and too easily exploited.  Combat is a circle-jerk click-fest with none of the strategy other games offer.

The only part of the game that is interesting is the chat/social system which can be found in any other game.  Even games like WOW have 'guild wars' based on out-of-game forum postings, which is all that DF has.

 

what is this chat/social system whereof you speak?

 

and um, you really don't know how bad the items you talk about are, unless you've been playing.  anyone that says anything about darkfall is because of "realism" is a complete and utter moron. 

you know those groovy background animations?  like grass and trees blowing in the breeze?  picture the largest redwood you can find... now picture THAT tree, swaying gently in the breeze, from about 1 foot off the ground, to the top of the tree... not sure what category hurricane would make a huge tree like that "sway in the breeze" from a couple of inches above the roots even... but that wind isn't blowing anything else around...

Yeah - what chat/social system?  The chat system flat out sucks and, to the best of my knowledge, there's no social system (like an LFG page, for example).

~Ripper

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Wizardry

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Wizardry

Who cares if anyh of the sites mirror Eurogamers?the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied.

Then there is the FACT that not everyone agrees on everything,so for every site you find that agrees,you can find many that don't.

What i have seen is actual BS posting for the most part,people LOOKING for the negative of DF,instead of just looking at the game for what it does .I don't ever remember TAOS saying his game was ground breaking,or that they have the best graphics around or they have the best animations around.

I do not get all wound up on DF,because i knew from the beginning what this game was about and what is had to offer and it was nothing that appealed to me.So in essence i could find a ton to complain about,but it is a game that is not designed to be fun for me,so i would be biased in my opinions.

As an outsider looking at DF,i really don't see the fuss ,as IMO there is no such thing as a good PVP game anywhere in the RPG genre,as it DOES NOT belong in the RPG genre.PVP is something that SHOULD be relegated to the FPS genre,that is why it has so much drama and fails on so many fronts,and it DOES fail and not just in DF,but every RPG game that tries to use it.

 

Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?

 

 

That was already addressed,because the reviewer used other ACTUAL reviewers to fake his own review.It is VERY easy to do,and i bet has been done before this Zitron guy.

Excuse me?
 

When was this addressed?  When did he use other actual reviewers to fake his own review?  What reviewers, and what reviews?  I'm sorry, but what you wrote is a bigger lie then the Eurogamer review. 

Maybe you didn't understand what I said.

If the guy at Gamereactor pointed out the exact same things the Eurogamer review did, how can Ed be lying.
He can't.

Care to actually back up any of what you said.
Fanatic delusions don't count as proof btw.

LOL.. I laughed when I read his claim also. 

You know, at one point, saying that DF fans will say absolutely anything to defend the game, no matter how untrue, unsupported or ridiculous, could have been considered hyperbole. However, it's gotten to the point where it's verifiable fact that they will. They do it constantly.

Their reactions/responses are so paranoid and predictable it's actually sad.

 

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Wizardry

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Wizardry

Who cares if anyh of the sites mirror Eurogamers?the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied.

Then there is the FACT that not everyone agrees on everything,so for every site you find that agrees,you can find many that don't.

What i have seen is actual BS posting for the most part,people LOOKING for the negative of DF,instead of just looking at the game for what it does .I don't ever remember TAOS saying his game was ground breaking,or that they have the best graphics around or they have the best animations around.

I do not get all wound up on DF,because i knew from the beginning what this game was about and what is had to offer and it was nothing that appealed to me.So in essence i could find a ton to complain about,but it is a game that is not designed to be fun for me,so i would be biased in my opinions.

As an outsider looking at DF,i really don't see the fuss ,as IMO there is no such thing as a good PVP game anywhere in the RPG genre,as it DOES NOT belong in the RPG genre.PVP is something that SHOULD be relegated to the FPS genre,that is why it has so much drama and fails on so many fronts,and it DOES fail and not just in DF,but every RPG game that tries to use it.

 

Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?

 

 

That was already addressed,because the reviewer used other ACTUAL reviewers to fake his own review.It is VERY easy to do,and i bet has been done before this Zitron guy.

Excuse me?
 

When was this addressed?  When did he use other actual reviewers to fake his own review?  What reviewers, and what reviews?  I'm sorry, but what you wrote is a bigger lie then the Eurogamer review. 

Maybe you didn't understand what I said.

If the guy at Gamereactor pointed out the exact same things the Eurogamer review did, how can Ed be lying.
He can't.

Care to actually back up any of what you said.
Fanatic delusions don't count as proof btw.

 

LOL.. I laughed when I read his claim also. 

You know, at one point, saying that DF fans will say absolutely anything to defend the game, no matter how untrue, unsupported or ridiculous, could have been considered hyperbole. However, it's gotten to the point where it's verifiable fact that they will. They do it constantly.

Their reactions/responses are so paranoid and predictable it's actually sad.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo

DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5  years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).

Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.

Originally posted by beaverz

DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5  years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).

 

Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.

DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5.  Give it a 2  and i give it a 8. thanks  

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by beaverz

DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5  years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).

 

Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.

 

DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5.  Give it a 2  and i give it a 8. thanks  

I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game

A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game

B) Has never played a decent round in a good multiplayer FPS

Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is.  And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by beaverz

DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5  years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).

 

Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.

 

DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5.  Give it a 2  and i give it a 8. thanks  

 

I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game

A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game

B) Has never played a decent round in a good multiplayer FPS

Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is.  And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.

B is true for me, i am not interested in multiplayer maps, i want skill and char progress like in an MMO in a seamleass world. Had my worries about twitch combat not cant be done riight in MMORPG but DF proved me wrong. They did merged FPS style with MMORPG in a succesfully way.  

Originally posted by Izure

He said the game is complex, that means a retard can not play it.

Also the skill grind and a lot of stuff got fixed with th patch, too bad he could not wait.

This is another biased review, but someone who plays wow or warhammer and does not enjoy sandbox's. Plain and simple, CCP eve had bad reviews as well as SWG when they first started, SWG died due to much changing and Eve is still kicking.

A MMO is constantly changing so when should he review it? After release is as good time as any, ha can make a new one in a year or 2 if the game changed enough.

The reason Eve had bad reviews at start was that the gameplay was bad then. They fixed it now and most reviews are a lot better.

SWG however got scared since the reviews were bad and didn't fix all the problems but instead changed the whole game, but it is not really dead, it do have more players then DF currently even if it ain't is as big as it was before the change.

DF can succed the same way as Eve did, by fixing the problems and make the gameplay better. If you just pretend that the game is perfect and conitnue without trying to fix the bad things however it will be gone in a year.

Sticking your head in the sand wont work, the reviewrs have some points and if Avi realize that and start doing what CCP did the game might be as big as Eve in 2 years. If they do nothing or to little they might as well close down.

This game can still be a success but whining on the reviewers isn't the way of making that happens, look on how CCP fixed it. They did not cry when they got a bad review and I dont remember their fans posting  personal pictures of a reviewer on this site (That was just the most creepy thing I ever seen here).

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by beaverz

DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5  years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).

 

Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.

 

DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5.  Give it a 2  and i give it a 8. thanks  

 

I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game

A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game

B) Has never played a decent round in a good multiplayer FPS

Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is.  And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.

B is true for me, i am not interested in multiplayer maps, i want skill and char progress like in an MMO in a seamleass world. Had my worries about twitch combat not cant be done riight in MMORPG but DF proved me wrong. They did merged FPS style with MMORPG in a succesfully way.  

I find the opposite.  I really am waiting for the two genre's two merge successfully, but thus far have seen nothing.  I tried Planetside a couple years ago but even then the graphics seemed so dated I lost interest.

I don't think DF's combat cn even compare to some of the better multiplayer FPS out there (JO, BF2)....but then, online FPS has been going downhill in the last several years....nothing really interesting any more.  Sure, BF2142 was entertaining for a little while, but after that I've been pressed to find one that interests me....COD4, COD5 both lacked for me.  I'm waiting on Nova's next game.  Maybe Huxley will be the one...who knows...but I digress.

If you find DFO PVP combat "exciting" you HAVE NOT played a good round in one of the better multiplayer FPS's.  Prove me wrong.  Name one that you have.

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by beaverz

DF has the same lvl of quality you'd expect from a F2P 5  years ago. Unless your addicted to PVP so bad you need your fix of ganking this game doesnt deserve to be rated higher than 5 (which is a pass grade something that games that have more lies than features at realease should get).

 

Try playing this game like you'd play a regular mmo and your gonna end up having as much fun as when you end up getting a cavity search at the airport.

 

DF is exceptional not regular. Because only of that it deserves not such a mediocre rating of 5.  Give it a 2  and i give it a 8. thanks  

 

I believe anyone who seriously thinks DF is a good game

A) is only interested in the PVP full loot aspect, therein ignoring the rest of the game

B) Has never played a decent round in a good multiplayer FPS

Because if B were true, they would see what garbage DF is.  And if you want to challenge this, list the FPS you played.

B is true for me, i am not interested in multiplayer maps, i want skill and char progress like in an MMO in a seamleass world. Had my worries about twitch combat not cant be done riight in MMORPG but DF proved me wrong. They did merged FPS style with MMORPG in a succesfully way.  

Well see,
you just explained why the game is horrible.

If you have no idea how a good fps game plays, you wouldn't be able to understand why the combat in DFO is so bad.
The entire last part of your statement is a joke man.

Anyone that is into FPS games can't possibly think that DFO did it right.
Day of Defeat was made like 10 years ago and is CONSIDERABLY better FPS then DFO.
Then you've got games like Unreal Tournament, Call of Duty, Quake arena, Crysis, Team Fortress.

If you like the game that's cool, you can like a game and still be able to recognize it's flaws.
But you keep on preaching how Av got it right.
When MO comes out just do me a favor.  Don't play it.  Stay with DFO; even when the servers are shut down and Av is run out of Greece.

this poor game has taken a breating lately. must be because of warhammers:Onlines better RvR. oh well still a good game. 7/10

Originally posted by SoulMiner01

this poor game has taken a breating lately. must be because of warhammers:Onlines better RvR. oh well still a good game. 7/10

I'm confused.

Are you rating DF or WAR.
I read your other post on this site and you said you cancelled your WoW and Eve subs to wait on a sci-fi MMO in dev.

Are you playing DF?
Cause according to your other post you don't, or haven't.

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Wizardry

Who cares if anyh of the sites mirror Eurogamers?the whole point was that they lied and the reviewer acting on behalf of Eurogamer lied.

Then there is the FACT that not everyone agrees on everything,so for every site you find that agrees,you can find many that don't.

What i have seen is actual BS posting for the most part,people LOOKING for the negative of DF,instead of just looking at the game for what it does .I don't ever remember TAOS saying his game was ground breaking,or that they have the best graphics around or they have the best animations around.

I do not get all wound up on DF,because i knew from the beginning what this game was about and what is had to offer and it was nothing that appealed to me.So in essence i could find a ton to complain about,but it is a game that is not designed to be fun for me,so i would be biased in my opinions.

As an outsider looking at DF,i really don't see the fuss ,as IMO there is no such thing as a good PVP game anywhere in the RPG genre,as it DOES NOT belong in the RPG genre.PVP is something that SHOULD be relegated to the FPS genre,that is why it has so much drama and fails on so many fronts,and it DOES fail and not just in DF,but every RPG game that tries to use it.

 

Pardon me?
If the EG review was a lie, then why did this review point out the exact same things?

 

 

Because Tasos said they lied and obviously Tasos would never lie about another person lying because he wants my money and....wait....oh shit.