Originally posted by zymurgeist

 It still doesn't fix the AoE / rigor exploit but one does what one can I suppose. .

well yes because before this patch u dint get any damage  from earth quake  now you do get damage ... so no more piramid rigor party

Originally posted by egotrip

I wantss that!

*steals ball*

My precioussss!

on topic; seems like a smart patch. War on the macroers indeed. I hope that Mortal Online devs are paying close attention :)

Good game development progression, which is what is expected and experienced with each and every other mmo. Glad to see the game-play improvements.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by cosy

You are now required to hit a valid target to gain skill in archery

Skill progression in spells requires the caster to hit a valid target

 

 

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

 

Good move. But I do have to point out, that the MMOs they are attempting to emulate, solved this 10 years ago.

True enough... but at least they've addressed it. It's a step in the right direction. Gotta give 'em that much.

Yup step in the right direction. (Hang on odd feeling saying that for DF). I need a comeback... hang on... *fumbles around*

Ah here it is.... BUT  gods this was painfully obvious. What did they do with the beta testers feedback ? Shit on it  and set fire to it and lol a whole lot ?!?!?!

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Good game development progression, which is what is expected and experienced with each and every other mmo. Glad to see the game-play improvements.

Now, if only i could buy the game. I actually tried to yesterday, however all 3 of my credit cards (with 3 different banks) failed to work.  I got some sort of transaction error or something, call you bank or wait till later.

Not sure if the store was just not working correctly (or not actually up, because it was 7 pm ET) or did I really need to call my bank/cc company?

Originally posted by cosy
i know a better way to do that and i free just go and bind in "the merc" npc ctiy and leave the char afk

^^
Didn't you post that in another thread about a group of people using the exploit they took out today?
There's a word I'm looking for...

Hypocrit?

I guess it's not exploting as long as it's your method of exploiting.

BTW,
I was asking them to do this over 2 months ago. 
Beta testers were saying it before that.

I really don't get how a company can not take action to fix something that is so very obvious, and that the playerbase repeatedly points out to them over the course of many months, and then get praised for making the change.

There's no reason for this to not have been fixed before the game was release. 
I see no reason for praise at this point.

It's too late for the EU server, the damage is done - when things like this get "fixed" without the possibility of a rollback it only hurts new players.. they have successfully created a large gap between the old and the new. only the eventual US server will benefit from this

Originally posted by Trollstar

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Good game development progression, which is what is expected and experienced with each and every other mmo. Glad to see the game-play improvements.

 

Now, if only i could buy the game. I actually tried to yesterday, however all 3 of my credit cards (with 3 different banks) failed to work.  I got some sort of transaction error or something, call you bank or wait till later.

Not sure if the store was just not working correctly (or not actually up, because it was 7 pm ET) or did I really need to call my bank/cc company?

 

Some american banks need personal approval (IE u calling the bank) to conduct foreign transactions in euros or whatever. Perhaps thats your problem if the shop was open.

Fariic you need to realise some things: yes all this crap should have been done in beta, but guess what they ran out of money and released, now they are basically fixing what should be fixed awhile back.....But all these patches are positive, albeight slow. and they are doing what we the customers are telling them to do, which is more than I can say for some other companies.

Originally posted by Einstein-DF

Originally posted by Trollstar

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Good game development progression, which is what is expected and experienced with each and every other mmo. Glad to see the game-play improvements.

 

Now, if only i could buy the game. I actually tried to yesterday, however all 3 of my credit cards (with 3 different banks) failed to work.  I got some sort of transaction error or something, call you bank or wait till later.

Not sure if the store was just not working correctly (or not actually up, because it was 7 pm ET) or did I really need to call my bank/cc company?

 

 

 

Some american banks need personal approval (IE u calling the bank) to conduct foreign transactions in euros or whatever. Perhaps thats your problem if the shop was open.

 

 

 

Fariic you need to realise some things: yes all this crap should have been done in beta, but guess what they ran out of money and released, now they are basically fixing what should be fixed awhile back.....But all these patches are positive, albeight slow. and they are doing what we the customers are telling them to do, which is more than I can say for some other companies.

link for "they ran out of money and released", please.

Originally posted by Einstein-DF

Originally posted by Trollstar

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Good game development progression, which is what is expected and experienced with each and every other mmo. Glad to see the game-play improvements.

 

Now, if only i could buy the game. I actually tried to yesterday, however all 3 of my credit cards (with 3 different banks) failed to work.  I got some sort of transaction error or something, call you bank or wait till later.

Not sure if the store was just not working correctly (or not actually up, because it was 7 pm ET) or did I really need to call my bank/cc company?

 

 

 

Some american banks need personal approval (IE u calling the bank) to conduct foreign transactions in euros or whatever. Perhaps thats your problem if the shop was open.

 

 

 

Fariic you need to realise some things: yes all this crap should have been done in beta, but guess what they ran out of money and released, now they are basically fixing what should be fixed awhile back.....But all these patches are positive, albeight slow. and they are doing what we the customers are telling them to do, which is more than I can say for some other companies.

No sir.
You need to realise that the lead developer and head producer of DFO stated that the game was 100% feature complete and ready for release.

Tasos never once stated they needed funding, in fact he had been very forthcoming that Av was very well funded and was in no need of revenue. 

On April 11, 2008 Tasos released a dev journal in wich he stated that the AI was so advanced that they were using it to test the game, and that the servers couldn't tell the dif. between the AI and an actually player.  Over one year ago he released that statement to the press.  Today they are patching in more code for the AI.  That indicates the AI isn't complete.

In that very same journal he said that the AI was already "living in the world along side players; skilling up along with them."  This we all know isn't true because they are static mobs that don't do anything but wander a designated area.  Yet, he released to press that statement.

What he never released was any sort of a statement that the company needed money and was required to release now or never.

BTW, the developers of Mortal online release a power point presentation for consumers.  The first thing it does is makes it very clear that not everything we see in the presentation will make it to launch, that they intend to launch with only the core features in place, and over time release the reamaining content.  They've already made it clear that they are a small indy studio with limitted finances and in order to continue the developement of the game they have to release with limitted features.  I can respect that.

Tasos however, was very addiment that they didn't need to release early.
He simply lied.

PS:  I'd still like an explanation on what Cosy posted in anothe thread about a group of people exploiting.  He admitted to binding in a red NPC city and going AFK so that people will kill him over an over to raise his rigor.
How exactly can you justify raging against other exploiting when you're really not any better then they are.

Originally posted by Druz

It's too late for the EU server, the damage is done - when things like this get "fixed" without the possibility of a rollback it only hurts new players.. they have successfully created a large gap between the old and the new. only the eventual US server will benefit from this

Didn't they say they will transfer characters from the European servers to the U.S. servers when they become available?

Originally posted by DarkPony

Originally posted by egotrip

 

I wantss that!

*steals ball*

My precioussss!

 

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Einstein-DF

Originally posted by Trollstar

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Good game development progression, which is what is expected and experienced with each and every other mmo. Glad to see the game-play improvements.

 

Now, if only i could buy the game. I actually tried to yesterday, however all 3 of my credit cards (with 3 different banks) failed to work.  I got some sort of transaction error or something, call you bank or wait till later.

Not sure if the store was just not working correctly (or not actually up, because it was 7 pm ET) or did I really need to call my bank/cc company?

 

 

 

Some american banks need personal approval (IE u calling the bank) to conduct foreign transactions in euros or whatever. Perhaps thats your problem if the shop was open.

 

 

 

Fariic you need to realise some things: yes all this crap should have been done in beta, but guess what they ran out of money and released, now they are basically fixing what should be fixed awhile back.....But all these patches are positive, albeight slow. and they are doing what we the customers are telling them to do, which is more than I can say for some other companies.

 

No sir.
You need to realise that the lead developer and head producer of DFO stated that the game was 100% feature complete and ready for release.

Tasos never once stated they needed funding, in fact he had been very forthcoming that Av was very well funded and was in no need of revenue. 

On April 11, 2008 Tasos released a dev journal in wich he stated that the AI was so advanced that they were using it to test the game, and that the servers couldn't tell the dif. between the AI and an actually player.  Over one year ago he released that statement to the press.  Today they are patching in more code for the AI.  That indicates the AI isn't complete.

In that very same journal he said that the AI was already "living in the world along side players; skilling up along with them."  This we all know isn't true because they are static mobs that don't do anything but wander a designated area.  Yet, he released to press that statement.

What he never released was any sort of a statement that the company needed money and was required to release now or never.

BTW, the developers of Mortal online release a power point presentation for consumers.  The first thing it does is makes it very clear that not everything we see in the presentation will make it to launch, that they intend to launch with only the core features in place, and over time release the reamaining content.  They've already made it clear that they are a small indy studio with limitted finances and in order to continue the developement of the game they have to release with limitted features.  I can respect that.

Tasos however, was very addiment that they didn't need to release early.
He simply lied.

PS:  I'd still like an explanation on what Cosy posted in anothe thread about a group of people exploiting.  He admitted to binding in a red NPC city and going AFK so that people will kill him over an over to raise his rigor.
How exactly can you justify raging against other exploiting when you're really not any better then they are.

Which is why I will give MO my money, because they are honest about thier product.

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by cosy
i know a better way to do that and i free just go and bind in "the merc" npc ctiy and leave the char afk

^^
Didn't you post that in another thread about a group of people using the exploit they took out today?
There's a word I'm looking for...

Hypocrit?

I guess it's not exploting as long as it's your method of exploiting.

BTW,
I was asking them to do this over 2 months ago. 
Beta testers were saying it before that.

I really don't get how a company can not take action to fix something that is so very obvious, and that the playerbase repeatedly points out to them over the course of many months, and then get praised for making the change.

There's no reason for this to not have been fixed before the game was release. 
I see no reason for praise at this point.

so leaving the char in a place where u get killed over and over again is exploit ?

Originally posted by grunty

Originally posted by Druz

It's too late for the EU server, the damage is done - when things like this get "fixed" without the possibility of a rollback it only hurts new players.. they have successfully created a large gap between the old and the new. only the eventual US server will benefit from this

 

Didn't they say they will transfer characters from the European servers to the U.S. servers when they become available?

If they did its all over lol

Originally posted by cosy

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by cosy
i know a better way to do that and i free just go and bind in "the merc" npc ctiy and leave the char afk

^^
Didn't you post that in another thread about a group of people using the exploit they took out today?
There's a word I'm looking for...

Hypocrit?

I guess it's not exploting as long as it's your method of exploiting.

BTW,
I was asking them to do this over 2 months ago. 
Beta testers were saying it before that.

I really don't get how a company can not take action to fix something that is so very obvious, and that the playerbase repeatedly points out to them over the course of many months, and then get praised for making the change.

There's no reason for this to not have been fixed before the game was release. 
I see no reason for praise at this point.

so leaving the char in a place where u get killed over and over again is exploit ?

An exploit is when you take advantage of an UNINTENDED feature of the game.
 

Av has released patches to adress people skilling up while AFK.  They've made it clear that they don't want anyone skilling while NOT playing the game.

Leaving your character in one place, afk; so others can kill you to raise your rigor is no dif. then the acid pool exploit, the earthquake exploit, or the wall exploits on mobs.

You're supposed to actually be actively playing your character.
Just becuase it's not taking advantage of a bug, doesn't mean it's not exploiting.

They don't want you gaining skill by afk macroing mana missile into the sky, why would you think it's ok to leave your toon afk where he gets killed repeatedly to raise your rigor.

Basically I'm saying you're a cheater, and it's hypocritical of you to make a thread like this when you openly admit to doing what you do.

But then I've found that several of you here don't seem to have a problem admitting that you do these sorts of things. 
Nothing advertises a game like it's most adiment fans admitting they cheat.

PS:  If you think I'm wrong, prove it.  Go to the offical forums and create a thread stating you do this.
See what happens.

Originally posted by Alanako

So, basically, they are telling players waiting to join not to do, because they are not going to have a chance against the macroers that arrive first?

However terrible it may seem, as a new subscriber, that was the first thought through my mind as well.

Originally posted by Seytan

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by Einstein-DF

Originally posted by Trollstar

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Good game development progression, which is what is expected and experienced with each and every other mmo. Glad to see the game-play improvements.

 

Now, if only i could buy the game. I actually tried to yesterday, however all 3 of my credit cards (with 3 different banks) failed to work.  I got some sort of transaction error or something, call you bank or wait till later.

Not sure if the store was just not working correctly (or not actually up, because it was 7 pm ET) or did I really need to call my bank/cc company?

 

 

 

Some american banks need personal approval (IE u calling the bank) to conduct foreign transactions in euros or whatever. Perhaps thats your problem if the shop was open.

 

 

 

Fariic you need to realise some things: yes all this crap should have been done in beta, but guess what they ran out of money and released, now they are basically fixing what should be fixed awhile back.....But all these patches are positive, albeight slow. and they are doing what we the customers are telling them to do, which is more than I can say for some other companies.

 

No sir.
You need to realise that the lead developer and head producer of DFO stated that the game was 100% feature complete and ready for release.

Tasos never once stated they needed funding, in fact he had been very forthcoming that Av was very well funded and was in no need of revenue. 

On April 11, 2008 Tasos released a dev journal in wich he stated that the AI was so advanced that they were using it to test the game, and that the servers couldn't tell the dif. between the AI and an actually player.  Over one year ago he released that statement to the press.  Today they are patching in more code for the AI.  That indicates the AI isn't complete.

In that very same journal he said that the AI was already "living in the world along side players; skilling up along with them."  This we all know isn't true because they are static mobs that don't do anything but wander a designated area.  Yet, he released to press that statement.

What he never released was any sort of a statement that the company needed money and was required to release now or never.

BTW, the developers of Mortal online release a power point presentation for consumers.  The first thing it does is makes it very clear that not everything we see in the presentation will make it to launch, that they intend to launch with only the core features in place, and over time release the reamaining content.  They've already made it clear that they are a small indy studio with limitted finances and in order to continue the developement of the game they have to release with limitted features.  I can respect that.

Tasos however, was very addiment that they didn't need to release early.
He simply lied.

PS:  I'd still like an explanation on what Cosy posted in anothe thread about a group of people exploiting.  He admitted to binding in a red NPC city and going AFK so that people will kill him over an over to raise his rigor.
How exactly can you justify raging against other exploiting when you're really not any better then they are.

 

Which is why I will give MO my money, because they are honest about thier product.

Also,
Isn't Av a publicly traded company?

If so,
They aren't indipendant.  They have shareholders.

Av isn't some small indy company in need of help.
They are a poorly managed corporation that lies to its consumer base, and falsly advertises thier product.

I'll be very happy to support the guys behind MO when it releases.
As long as the combat is fun.

Originally posted by Einstein-DF

Originally posted by Trollstar

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Good game development progression, which is what is expected and experienced with each and every other mmo. Glad to see the game-play improvements.

 

Now, if only i could buy the game. I actually tried to yesterday, however all 3 of my credit cards (with 3 different banks) failed to work.  I got some sort of transaction error or something, call you bank or wait till later.

Not sure if the store was just not working correctly (or not actually up, because it was 7 pm ET) or did I really need to call my bank/cc company?

 

 

 

Some american banks need personal approval (IE u calling the bank) to conduct foreign transactions in euros or whatever. Perhaps thats your problem if the shop was open.

 

 

 

Fariic you need to realise some things: yes all this crap should have been done in beta, but guess what they ran out of money and released, now they are basically fixing what should be fixed awhile back.....But all these patches are positive, albeight slow. and they are doing what we the customers are telling them to do, which is more than I can say for some other companies.

I never realized that.  Thanks, I'll make the call.