Ok so people throughout Darkfall have been using a great way to train rigor by encouraging mass participation within major alliances. Basically we have 15-30 spell casters with the earth magic called earthquake and then we form a pyramid with non-casters surrounding the casters. Everyone donates reagents for the casters to use.

Then they click and release the AOE spell which trains our rigor skill while we don't get hurt since they don't hold onto the spell. Earthquake is a spell that does DOT around the caster and hurts everyone in range. But we don't take damage which lets us train rigor 100X faster than normal. This was suppose to be a smart way to train a skill but the GM's recently declared it an exploit.

Yesterday, while we just formed our pyramid after over an hour of organizing 200+ people a GM talked on public chat while we were taking advantage of game mechanics. I later found out that they destroyed another 'rigor party' in another major clan/alliance by kicking people. First our alliance leader tried to persuade the GM that it isn't an exploit but it failed since the GM said that the devs considered it an exploit. Then he started talking bs with some sarcasm which was hilarious.

Soon the GM began kicking people but there were too many people so I barely noticed people disappearing. Our casters just logged back in after being kicked so the GM couldn't beat us. He kept trying and trying but for some reason he couldn't kick us fast enough. Then we spammed public chat with stuff like "MORTAL ONLINE" and "MO" and the chat was flooded like crazy and it became more laggier. 

Eventually the GM gave up and we used the rigor pyramid all last night into the morning when the servers went down for daily restart. We did it the whole day also today and the GM isn't interfering anymore because we kicked his ass. We are going to do it until they patch it in about 7 hours which is the patch tomorrow morning. It was the first time that I saw a GM back down from the biggest alliance in the game.

Fun.

Here is a screenshot of the public chat from another city that had a rigor pyramid going on and a GM interrupting it.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6103/afkkkkk.jpg

So, to sum your post up, GMs fail in this game.

The wonders of leveling faster than others will ever be able to.

 He could not defeat our zerg and lighten dude, why so serious?

And also I forgot to add in the part where all of us spammed DF forums general discussion section which was even more hilarious. We started threads like "GM LEVENTH ABUSING POWER", "GM LEVENTH STOLE MY BOAT", "GM LEVENTH SHOULD BE FIRED", "GM LEVENTH KICK WITHOUT WARNING", "How do I mine rocks?", "How do I mine fish?", "How do I mine trees?", "www.mortalonline.com", and so many more it was filled with pages of our spam.
 

Interesting perception of fun. Don't you find it a little wierd to brag about using a known exploit? I mean, I don't play DF and I probably never will, as it's just not my cup of coco, but if this is the general attitude (and it seems to be, if there are hundreds of players participating in such an exploit event) then is it really so surprising that game developers and GMs have such a hard time?

My problem with a lot of MMOs are the players not the games ;)

Reasons # 6599 and 6600 on why Darkfall fails. Thank you OP.

So over 200 dorkfails gather to abuse a game mechanic, and you consider this fun? Pause and think about it for a second. So this game IS only about PvP and abusing game mechanics.

A GM logs on, says the DEVS consider this an exploit and is asking you to stop, but instead you all gang up on him and abuse the GM. Then you all ramble and spam zone chat with Mortal Online?? ROFL

I can't even express in words how much Darkfails. I eagerly anticipate how much lower the bar can go.

Just fun. Nothing else to say.

My, with a fan base like this, how can the game fail....

Originally posted by orionite

 

 

Interesting perception of fun. Don't you find it a little wierd to brag about using a known exploit? I mean, I don't play DF and I probably never will, as it's just not my cup of coco, but if this is the general attitude (and it seems to be, if there are hundreds of players participating in such an exploit event) then is it really so surprising that game developers and GMs have such a hard time?

My problem with a lot of MMOs are the players not the games ;)

 

Two things comes to mind, from both sides.

If the game developer has things under control, all the GM needs to do is log the names of those involved.  Mass banning.  No need to kick them one by one.  Blizz kicks 13k in one go some years back when they found out a trade dup exploit or something.  They don't worry.  The 13k will just buy another box and humbly relevel.  DF cannot.  This sad developer is begging for money, you can macro, exploit, speed heck, and all DF can do is sit back and ... sigh.

If the gamers treasure the game, they will work together to give it a good community.  When we see a heck we report it, not exploit it.  After all, a good game will reverse all the exploit gains.  Blizz did it when they accidentally allow some PVP gear purchase almost free.  You can buy it, after the next reset, the gear is automatically refunded, meaning you get back the silvers and lost the gear.  Now DF community is a bunch who does not care about the game, and they rampage till the game dies.  What do you expect?  These sad gamers will harass/grief new comers, steal, hack, exploit and do anything to make it their day, and obviously at the expense of each other.  You want a dog eat dog online community for your after-hours, after the mental toils of work?  Go DF.  If you want some peace of mind and relaxation, watch DF forums and have a last laugh.

So we all know what DF is as it stands now.  A broken set of code providing an online empty world, in which everyone macro, hack and exploit, and what next?  What after exploitation?  They come here to brag, b/c all the game is about cheating and then talking about it, not in the game, but on forums.  Do you want to spend $50 and then monthly sub on such a piece of #$^@#

Two things comes to mind, from both sides.

If the game developer has things under control, all the GM needs to do is log the names of those involved.  Mass banning.  No need to kick them one by one.  Blizz kicks 13k in one go some years back when they found out a trade dup exploit or something.  They don't worry.  The 13k will just buy another box and humbly relevel.  DF cannot.  This sad developer is begging for money, you can macro, exploit, speed heck, and all DF can do is sit back and ... sigh.

That part is incorrect because the rigor pyramid is considered an exploit but it is actually extremely close to being only part of the game mechanics. This is because we are simply casting spells on one another. And you can't speed hack without getting banned easily which is why I never see speed hackers anymore.

Originally posted by orionite

 

 

Interesting perception of fun. Don't you find it a little wierd to brag about using a known exploit? I mean, I don't play DF and I probably never will, as it's just not my cup of coco, but if this is the general attitude (and it seems to be, if there are hundreds of players participating in such an exploit event) then is it really so surprising that game developers and GMs have such a hard time?

My problem with a lot of MMOs are the players not the games ;)

 

What the OP is describing doesnt sound like my idea of fun either. It sounds like a bunch of kids in a classroom throwing balls of paper at the teacher and generally wasting everyones time.........

........but at the same time I dont blame the players at all. This is purely down to the design of the game. The potential for the "exploit" should not be there in the first place. I always find it particularly sad when devs try and tell their PAYING CUSTOMERS that they shouldnt do something simply because it shouldnt be possible. Its up to the devs to make actions that are not allowed impossible within the game. The players are simply playing the game that they are paying money for and if they can actually do something in-game then it should be fair game.

An exploit was declared in Chronicles of Spellborn recently where players could stand on a rock and attack creatures with ranged attacks without getting attacked back. Despite the fact that this is a perfectly viable tactic that actually gets used in real life, the devs declared that anyone who got caught using this "exploit" would get banned.

So basicly paying beta testers (which is what they are) are being banned for playing games as they have been designed. Maybe these games companies should start being honest about the fact that their games are not actually in a properly playable state at all and are actually still in their unfinished testing phase.

The players should never be held accountable for the faults of a broken or unfinished  product.

Good to see that this game requires player skill and thats why the masses will never appreciate it.

or something like that yeah?

I see your point, neonwire. If seomthing is considered an exploit, it shouldn't be possible in the first place. However, I'm surprised.... well, no. I'm not really surprised, just bemused, that players would ignore and abuse the GM who is trying to enforce game/server rules. In my opinion the players are ruining their own game-experience, by 'playing' the game in a way that was not intended.

If you cheat in a single-player game, that's anyone's prerogative. I do that sometimes for older games, I haven't played in a while to skip tedious low-level content. However, if you are doing that in a MMO, you are giving yourself an advantage over people who chose to adhere to the rules as laid out by the GMs. If this is done en masse, as seems to be the case here, then that doesn't seem to bode well for the game overall.

Heck, with that kind of thing going on, it should've gotten a 3/10 easily....

Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

Two things comes to mind, from both sides.

If the game developer has things under control, all the GM needs to do is log the names of those involved.  Mass banning.  No need to kick them one by one.  Blizz kicks 13k in one go some years back when they found out a trade dup exploit or something.  They don't worry.  The 13k will just buy another box and humbly relevel.  DF cannot.  This sad developer is begging for money, you can macro, exploit, speed heck, and all DF can do is sit back and ... sigh.

 

That part is incorrect because the rigor pyramid is considered an exploit but it is actually extremely close to being only part of the game mechanics. This is because we are simply casting spells on one another. And you can't speed hack without getting banned easily which is why I never see speed hackers anymore.

Sorry you just contradicted yourself.  DF GM clearly indicated that your form of gaming is an exploit, that is the final judgment.  Your kind of gameplay is the same as speedhecks in the eyes of GM, and he is trying to stop it.  Pretending to look smart does not mean you are "right".  Its just like you go loot a supermarket as a whole bunch of schoolkids, only one police officer around and he cannot run you all down.

So you go back to school and tell the school master, "hey we out witted the police officer, look I stole 6 candy bars".

Good reasoning you have there.  After all, its just a broken game hardly anyone cares.  Do whatever you want, its just a laugh for me.

Originally posted by orionite

 

 

I see your point, neonwire. If seomthing is considered an exploit, it shouldn't be possible in the first place. However, I'm surprised.... well, no. I'm not really surprised, just bemused, that players would ignore and abuse the GM who is trying to enforce game/server rules. In my opinion the players are ruining their own game-experience, by 'playing' the game in a way that was not intended.

If you cheat in a single-player game, that's anyone's prerogative. I do that sometimes for older games, I haven't played in a while to skip tedious low-level content. However, if you are doing that in a MMO, you are giving yourself an advantage over people who chose to adhere to the rules as laid out by the GMs. If this is done en masse, as seems to be the case here, then that doesn't seem to bode well for the game overall.

Well bugs in code happen all the time.  I develop software.  The only thing I dare declare as truth is that there is always some unintended code options somewhere.  If you are lucky, you can find a way to draw money off the teller machine free of charge.  I am still looking for that code segment.

Now if the game developer is good, he will close the loophole, on the fly, take down the server briefly, or with the next patch, depending on how much code affected and how sensitive.  Nonetheless, he can always reverse the gains and add penalty, like ban.  Let the OP and his clown friends gain vigor.  After the next server reset, roll back all those involved for 24 hours, or simply reduce their vigor to lvl zero as penalty.  Blizz does it better.  Simple perm ban.  That will teach the little boys a lesson.  After all the developer owns the game.  If you want to play it, play nice, or get out.  That should be the message.

What does DF do?  Nothing.  Good bye to DF, the developer sucks, the community sucks, and the game, oh well however good the coding is, a bad community and a bad developer means the end of it.

Full loot pvp game and the GM didn't just cast AoE insta kill and loot everyone? 

 Wow...now I fanboy alot.....

But this is ridiculous......

And you come to the mmorpg forums to brag about this. 

You idiots are killing DF and MO will be headed that way also with this kind of behavior.

Keep in mind I have DF in my name and played FFA pvp since 2000......wow what a pack of imbeciles we have around over there.

Originally posted by IronZ

Heck, with that kind of thing going on, it should've gotten a 3/10 easily....

Haha It just shows Eurogame is correct in giving Darkfall a 2/10..Bravo Op! You the Man..

Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

Ok so people throughout Darkfall have been using a great way to train rigor by encouraging mass participation within major alliances. Basically we have 15-30 spell casters with the earth magic called earthquake and then we form a pyramid with non-casters surrounding the casters. Everyone donates reagents for the casters to use.

 

Then they click and release the AOE spell which trains our rigor skill while we don't get hurt since they don't hold onto the spell. Earthquake is a spell that does DOT around the caster and hurts everyone in range. But we don't take damage which lets us train rigor 100X faster than normal. This was suppose to be a smart way to train a skill but the GM's recently declared it an exploit.

 

Yesterday, while we just formed our pyramid after over an hour of organizing 200+ people a GM talked on public chat while we were taking advantage of game mechanics. I later found out that they destroyed another 'rigor party' in another major clan/alliance by kicking people. First our alliance leader tried to persuade the GM that it isn't an exploit but it failed since the GM said that the devs considered it an exploit. Then he started talking bs with some sarcasm which was hilarious.

 

Soon the GM began kicking people but there were too many people so I barely noticed people disappearing. Our casters just logged back in after being kicked so the GM couldn't beat us. He kept trying and trying but for some reason he couldn't kick us fast enough. Then we spammed public chat with stuff like "MORTAL ONLINE" and "MO" and the chat was flooded like crazy and it became more laggier. 

Eventually the GM gave up and we used the rigor pyramid all last night into the morning when the servers went down for daily restart. We did it the whole day also today and the GM isn't interfering anymore because we kicked his ass. We are going to do it until they patch it in about 7 hours which is the patch tomorrow morning. It was the first time that I saw a GM back down from the biggest alliance in the game.

 

Fun.

 

 

Here is a screenshot of the public chat from another city that had a rigor pyramid going on and a GM interrupting it.

 

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6103/afkkkkk.jpg

 

 

 

Thank you for proving once and for all that this game is a FAIL.