Originally posted by solareus

Can you control actual zones and own land ?

Has anyone pvped and is there xp for it ?

www.youtube.com/watch

 Make sure to watch part 2 as well

You can take over areas in the Abyss, and control them for you Faction.
This gives perks to you Faction... plus the Guild Controlling the Fort earn taxes from that area.
there is a 3rd NPC that Offsets the to Player Factions... if One side controls more land then other, the become more hostile to that side, leaving the other side alone. If I read it right it, one side gets too powerful, the GMs step in and control this race to even up the sides. It's a balancing act.

You get XP for PvP as well as PvP Points...
You should read up on it on aionsource, all the info about Aion is there.

L2 is a grind fest and does alright in the US.....i dont think Aion is going to bring anything new to the table. Just my  opinion, but i may be wrong, we will see.

Originally posted by 0theri0n

L2 is a grind fest and does alright in the US.....i dont think Aion is going to bring anything new to the table. Just my  opinion, but i may be wrong, we will see.

Pretty much everyone else have refuted that idea of yours.

Originally posted by Orthedos

Originally posted by 0theri0n

L2 is a grind fest and does alright in the US.....i dont think Aion is going to bring anything new to the table. Just my  opinion, but i may be wrong, we will see.

 

Pretty much everyone else have refuted that idea of yours.

Well there you go, im wrong. Now lets see how this game does at release.

Originally posted by 0theri0n

Originally posted by Orthedos

Originally posted by 0theri0n

L2 is a grind fest and does alright in the US.....i dont think Aion is going to bring anything new to the table. Just my  opinion, but i may be wrong, we will see.

 

Pretty much everyone else have refuted that idea of yours.

Well there you go, im wrong. Now lets see how this game does at release.

Unless u want to play the chinese or korean version, wait and see.  NC West is localising it and rumours are, they are adding a lot more.  So the NA release might be a totally new beast.  Till then your guess or mine.

Originally posted by Orthedos

Originally posted by 0theri0n

Originally posted by Orthedos

Originally posted by 0theri0n

L2 is a grind fest and does alright in the US.....i dont think Aion is going to bring anything new to the table. Just my  opinion, but i may be wrong, we will see.

 

Pretty much everyone else have refuted that idea of yours.

Well there you go, im wrong. Now lets see how this game does at release.

 

Unless u want to play the chinese or korean version, wait and see.  NC West is localising it and rumours are, they are adding a lot more.  So the NA release might be a totally new beast.  Till then your guess or mine.

Well good, i think we could all do with something fresh and new. Im just going on what i read on the forums, which in truth we all have to take with a grain of salt. Im looking forward to to the NA release, hopefully it will change everyones negative opinions. Hopefully.

Originally posted by 0theri0n

L2 is a grind fest and does alright in the US.....i dont think Aion is going to bring anything new to the table. Just my  opinion, but i may be wrong, we will see.

Yes, because NCSoft is smart enough to compete with it's own game. It already has a grindfest game, why would they need another? What they needed was something more casual, to compete with WoW, thats what Aion is.

First, I can't believe ANYONE that has played Aion (I am currently playing) can call it a grindfest. I don't believe WoW was a grind and if you feel the same then you will love Aion because its like WoW with quests for xp but it goes a little extra. I get xp for crafting all day or for every piece of mineral I gather while in the field, I don't struggle to lvl at all.

The quests are coherent, fun and many time challenging depending on your lvl, class, equipment etc. In FFXI when you died you lost xp, in this game when you die you don't really "lose" xp as it may apear because that xp can be bought back from a "soul healer" for chump change. So if I die 3 times I wait until it's time to advance to the next area, visit a soul healer and get all that xp back and sometimes that makes me lvl if I'm close tnl.

I have never played a game that gave xp for crafting and gathering simultanously as I quest and do missions. To me I feel spoiled. I bet if I honestly wanted to I could hit 10 lvls with ease if I actually "grind". I'm not a grinder anymore so I won't do that I just enjoy the game. I think it will do extremely well over here in N/A. I can't wait.

You don't get all of the xp you lost back from the soul healing.
I tested it once... I lost 3% XP on death, I got back 63% of what I lost.
 

Originally posted by lornphoenix

You don't get all of the xp you lost back from the soul healing.
I tested it once... I lost 3% XP on death, I got back 63% of what I lost.
 

I did not test to see if I got back 100% because I never bothered to check how much I lost. I figured it was 100% return because of the explanation the soul healers give you when you interact with them. Now I'll have to go check this out because I'm curious.

I remeber I died once at lvl 21 and the soul healer gave me back over 21,000 xp. I don't care if that was'nt 100% because I would rather get that back than not getting anything at all. This is good to know though, more incentive to fight for you life lol

Think thegrind is more defined now with this thread, it is probably take an average player 3 months to get to max, and then they will be able to enjoy the the game end content. With a world designed like it is, makes me curious how fututer expansions will play out, will they eventually go into space and find new planets ?

The tax system is not fairly new cause they have that in L2 , when someone owns a city keep , and Aden being  or use to being the main tax keep. The new thing for NcSoft and this game is the territory control, and that is the most interesting thing I've read, think if more people would write about that, it would perk more interest towards players who are looking for a pvp typegame with solid endgame mateerial. If they didn't do a sub fee like in Korea, I would probably try the game..

Originally posted by solareus

Think thegrind is more defined now with this thread, it is probably take an average player 3 months to get to max, and then they will be able to enjoy the the game end content. With a world designed like it is, makes me curious how fututer expansions will play out, will they eventually go into space and find new planets ?

The tax system is not fairly new cause they have that in L2 , when someone owns a city keep , and Aden being  or use to being the main tax keep. The new thing for NcSoft and this game is the territory control, and that is the most interesting thing I've read, think if more people would write about that, it would perk more interest towards players who are looking for a pvp typegame with solid endgame mateerial. If they didn't do a sub fee like in Korea, I would probably try the game..

Actually it seems recently they've been trying a lot of their ideas for Aion out in Lineage 2. Crossing over ideas, which is great. In L2 they have Fortresses now which are siegable every 3 days, which cover control over smaller areas and do not accumulate tax. They give clan benefits and rewards and there are more of them. The same goes with the Kamael playable race added to Lineage 2, a lot of their style looks Aionish, and out of place in the Lineage 2 world, that and they can fly.

Future expansions will probably focus on the Abyss and the PvP content and adding raids and quest content to satisfy PvPers. They've already added content in Korea.

If you don't want topay subs, then play in China? Its pay per hour and $15 gives you 300 hours which isn't too bad, and no box price. Problem is, it's China, more lag and less people you understand.

The endgame doesn't start at max level, or 50. It starts at 25. You can enter the abyss then and start PvPing. Hell I have a level 22 Sorcerer and I already have a PvP point.

Originally posted by FastTx

The endgame doesn't start at max level, or 50. It starts at 25. You can enter the abyss then and start PvPing. Hell I have a level 22 Sorcerer and I already have a PvP point.

I got my first couple of pvp points when some Asmodeans jumped through a portal that opened up in eltnen, tried to help kill the Gladiator but I found out that he hits way harder than me since he was about 20 lvls over me...but I got points :)

Originally posted by Scripture1

Originally posted by FastTx

The endgame doesn't start at max level, or 50. It starts at 25. You can enter the abyss then and start PvPing. Hell I have a level 22 Sorcerer and I already have a PvP point.

 

I got my first couple of pvp points when some Asmodeans jumped through a portal that opened up in eltnen, tried to help kill the Gladiator but I found out that he hits way harder than me since he was about 20 lvls over me...but I got points :)

In that case, can you tell what leve your attacker is at? Or the person you are attacking? Or is it like Lineage 2 where you can't really tell?

Originally posted by solareus

I'm American, an Korea grind is nothing like a  American or European mmo, sorry to burst this magical "everythign is a grind" routine. Korean games are grindcore, there has yet been 1 korean game that didnt have you kill 1000 mobs to move the xp bar 1.5%. From watching the youtube videos, I can see that this game is no different. Good luck trying to sell this is off as "everything is grind." or "aion is Lotro with wings "

Seriously think the game is a great fuel for the Asian market, but as we seen with a lot of  NcSoft products, they dont sell after launch in America, the people who will play this will buy it and thats about it.

Really your American? Me too but I ownestly thought you were forgein with your horrible wordage and they way you jumped to conclusions and changed your opinion.

Why don't you research it or better yet, play the chinese version for 5 bucks and get 40 hours of gameplay.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Scripture1

Originally posted by FastTx

The endgame doesn't start at max level, or 50. It starts at 25. You can enter the abyss then and start PvPing. Hell I have a level 22 Sorcerer and I already have a PvP point.

 

I got my first couple of pvp points when some Asmodeans jumped through a portal that opened up in eltnen, tried to help kill the Gladiator but I found out that he hits way harder than me since he was about 20 lvls over me...but I got points :)

 

In that case, can you tell what leve your attacker is at? Or the person you are attacking? Or is it like Lineage 2 where you can't really tell?

The only way to tell the lvl of the player is by his weapon or the buffs he has on.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Scripture1

Originally posted by FastTx

The endgame doesn't start at max level, or 50. It starts at 25. You can enter the abyss then and start PvPing. Hell I have a level 22 Sorcerer and I already have a PvP point.

 

I got my first couple of pvp points when some Asmodeans jumped through a portal that opened up in eltnen, tried to help kill the Gladiator but I found out that he hits way harder than me since he was about 20 lvls over me...but I got points :)

 

In that case, can you tell what leve your attacker is at? Or the person you are attacking? Or is it like Lineage 2 where you can't really tell?

Nah you can't tell because their lvls show as "??" I had to ask one of our lvl 35s what lvl they were. They were tearing through the place killing us until help arrived.

So I guess it's kind of like WoW because he was able to tell me what lvl they were because he was closer to their lvls, whereas I was only 21 so it did'nt register for me. This is only a guess but I can't see any other explanation how he knew the lvls.

Edit: I posted late, the explanation above may be true, this is another thing I have to find out for sure.

I don't want to play a game that is slightly altered for a certain region, I would rather and wait to see what the NA/EU version is like. If the PVP is balanced and the games terrority control areas work, then it has some good news to bring, but those elemts aren't knew to the mmorpg genre.

I guess people are to busy lliving and dying by one opinion, I don't post that way, I like to read and then reavaluate my self and maybe look at things at a different perspective, a lot posters should try that, and maybe the conversation can go on with out so many blocked users :)

Originally posted by Scripture1

I have never played a game that gave xp for crafting and gathering simultanously as I quest and do missions. To me I feel spoiled. I bet if I honestly wanted to I could hit 10 lvls with ease if I actually "grind". I'm not a grinder anymore so I won't do that I just enjoy the game. I think it will do extremely well over here in N/A. I can't wait.

I completely had forgotten about the dings I got while gathering and crafting while I was a lowbie.

Originally posted by Scripture1

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Scripture1

Originally posted by FastTx

The endgame doesn't start at max level, or 50. It starts at 25. You can enter the abyss then and start PvPing. Hell I have a level 22 Sorcerer and I already have a PvP point.

 

I got my first couple of pvp points when some Asmodeans jumped through a portal that opened up in eltnen, tried to help kill the Gladiator but I found out that he hits way harder than me since he was about 20 lvls over me...but I got points :)

 

In that case, can you tell what leve your attacker is at? Or the person you are attacking? Or is it like Lineage 2 where you can't really tell?

Nah you can't tell because their lvls show as "??" I had to ask one of our lvl 35s what lvl they were. They were tearing through the place killing us until help arrived.

So I guess it's kind of like WoW because he was able to tell me what lvl they were because he was closer to their lvls, whereas I was only 21 so it did'nt register for me. This is only a guess but I can't see any other explanation how he knew the lvls.

 

Edit: I posted late, the explanation above may be true, this is another thing I have to find out for sure.

Yeah, the cool thing is once I got to Eltnen the game kind of changed. It was fun seeing as periodically enemies would come through a gate and fun would begin. It never gets boring lol!