Is this game an xp grind ? If not please explain in detail how it isn't. Thanks !

you cannot depend on quests xp to level from 1-50. Grinding is unavoidable.

It is

This game isn't going to be popular in North America because it is another grind. Fortunately, I love grinding, but yeah, this game is another grind fest....

...sorry to get you hyped up.

Thats all I needed to read : Typical big boobed Korean grind fest, with wings . Good luck with that. Wonder how LotrO is doing in Korea ?

Originally posted by Syno23

This game isn't going to be popular in North America because it is another grind. Fortunately, I love grinding, but yeah, this game is another grind fest....

...sorry to get you hyped up.

While I feel it wont be as popular in the US and Europe as it is in Asian, I think the game will be much better then all previously released "asian mmos".  So,  really, for those players that ARE looking for something different, and I know there are a lot out there because they bitch and moan all the time on this forum, and still want a polished and complete game, I would tell them to give Aion a shot.

I dont think the grind issue has anything to do with it.  Lotro has a grind. War has a grind.  WoW has a grind.  Even Eve has a grind...they just dont make it as obvious because they dont have levels.

Originally posted by Cetra

you cannot depend on quests xp to level from 1-50. Grinding is unavoidable.

care give a little more detail on this?

Anyway, I hasn't felt like a grind to me, yet... unless you think doing quests for xp is a grind.

I'm sure there is some area where you have to do some grinding but I haven't gotten to that point.

All games are grinds.  The answer to your question all depends on your definition of grind ?

Most of the people here are basing there answer from playing on the China version 1.0 retail which lacks the content that the Korean client has.

Chinese 1.0v client has more grinding due to lack of quest and content. = slower lvling.

Korean 1.2v client has more quest based grinding due to more content = faster lvling.

But as I said above, all games have grinding (aion included).

Originally posted by TheHavok

Originally posted by Syno23

This game isn't going to be popular in North America because it is another grind. Fortunately, I love grinding, but yeah, this game is another grind fest....

...sorry to get you hyped up.

 

While I feel it wont be as popular in the US and Europe as it is in Asian, I think the game will be much better then all previously released "asian mmos".  So,  really, for those players that ARE looking for something different, and I know there are a lot out there because they bitch and moan all the time on this forum, and still want a polished and complete game, I would tell them to give Aion a shot.

I dont think the grind issue has anything to do with it.  Lotro has a grind. War has a grind.  WoW has a grind.  Even Eve has a grind...they just dont make it as obvious because they dont have levels.

The problem is , this game isn't different. I played a big boobed game with Lineage 2. I've been there and done that. Aion is an XP grinder, there is nothing new with in this title that hasn't been done. I personally find the graphics a little obnoxious cause I've already seen that style in 50 other Korean mmos.

LotrO has a quest architype that levels the players on an ark. LotrO art aesthetics are of it's oown, with probably some of the best environmental artists in the business. That is new and fresh to me, still. I've not played WoW so I'm not going to comment.

Think when people say  they are looking for something different, they don't mean another cup size...

If people are aspiring to really want something TRuelY different, then they would be watching a game like Fallen Earth. Completely off the radar for a lot of people, Fallen Earth is headed for the truley different, Aion is the same bag of tricks, with wings,and shoot, you get half a win in Lineage 2 , wtf ??

Originally posted by solareus

Is this game an xp grind ? If not please explain in detail how it isn't. Thanks !

We dont know it yet, its all about the leveling curve in NA/EU client, currently is a mix of quest grind and mob grind, if they tweak it a little it will be an only quest grind which i think is what you are looking for.

Originally posted by lornphoenix

Originally posted by Cetra

you cannot depend on quests xp to level from 1-50. Grinding is unavoidable.

care give a little more detail on this?

 

Anyway, I hasn't felt like a grind to me, yet... unless you think doing quests for xp is a grind.

I'm sure there is some area where you have to do some grinding but I haven't gotten to that point.

I have watched some kids play during waiting hours changing coach in China.  During the 2 hours, I see him quest non stop.  He tried to skip and avoid mobs not vital to his quest, cos he is too busy running back to hand in quests.

That feels more like WoW/LOTRo type of levelling than EQ1/L2 grind to next level.

Also I noticed his xp bars moves pretty fast.  It sure does not feel like a grind to me.

That is, from an observer.  I still do not yet have time to download it.

Originally posted by solareus

Aion is an XP grinder,

Aion is a XP grinder just like Lotro, Everquest 2 and WoW.

You can level only doing storyline missions, normal quests, group quests and repeatable quests.

But if you avoid group content you will grind more repeable quests and solo content, just like any questing/storyline MMO.

Group content is the faster way of leveling.

AION is not similar to Lineage 2 in xp dynamics.

The leveling progression is slower than WoW and AOC but on part with EQ2 at its release.

Storyline quests and cutscenes are present in AION, forget about L2 dynamics...

Vanguard is more of a "grinder" than Aion...

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So first it is grind core, now it is LotrO with wings  ? Maybe I will get lucky and get into a beta stage ...

Originally posted by Syno23

This game isn't going to be popular in North America because it is another grind. Fortunately, I love grinding, but yeah, this game is another grind fest....

...sorry to get you hyped up.

Probably but now people can play only Chinese or Korean not Western version , and devs say already few times there will be lots more quests in AION in western version than is it now.

I'm only level 20 but i not done xp grind yet as i'm getting a lot more from quests.

Even Lineage 2 had quest xp, up until a certain point, then your doing 4 room pulls in the labberyths to get 1% bar movement ...(loved training those bots down there lol.)

I personally just watched some combat videos on youtube, and really, the xp grind is a second fiddle compared to the horrendous tank animations . wowo , tell me they didnt just rip off Cabal Online ?.?

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Originally posted by Umbral

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Originally posted by solareus

Aion is an XP grinder,

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Aion is a XP grinder just like Lotro, Everquest 2 and WoW.
You can level only doing storyline missions, normal quests, group quests and repeatable quests.
But if you avoid group content you will grind more repeable quests and solo content, just like any questing/storyline MMO.
Group content is the faster way of leveling.
AION is not similar to Lineage 2 in xp dynamics.
The leveling progression is slower than WoW and AOC but on part with EQ2 at its release.
Storyline quests and cutscenes are present in AION, forget about L2 dynamics...
Vanguard is more of a "grinder" than Aion...
 
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I'm American, an Korea grind is nothing like a  American or European mmo, sorry to burst this magical "everythign is a grind" routine. Korean games are grindcore, there has yet been 1 korean game that didnt have you kill 1000 mobs to move the xp bar 1.5%. From watching the youtube videos, I can see that this game is no different. Good luck trying to sell this is off as "everything is grind." or "aion is Lotro with wings "

Seriously think the game is a great fuel for the Asian market, but as we seen with a lot of  NcSoft products, they dont sell after launch in America, the people who will play this will buy it and thats about it.

Originally posted by solareus

I'm American, an Korea grind is nothing like a  American or European mmo, sorry to burst this magical "everythign is a grind" routine. Korean games are grindcore, there has yet been 1 korean game that didnt have you kill 1000...

..."aion is Lotro with wings "

 

No one said AION is Lotro with wings, AION is much more original and unique than Lotro.

AION focus on quests,Storylines and RvR, it is not about kill 1000x the same mob.

The idea AION is similar to Lineage 2 is wrong, and no, you can´t realize that by watching youtube videos...

You can try the game, every new account has a 5 hours bonus to any server, not everyone here play the game, but everyone who does (including me) knows AION is not a korean grinder.

Vanguard is a western game and is much more of a grinder than AION.

Even AION PvP is more similar to western games like DAoC than korean games...

Anyway, it is your choice, you can confine yourself into ignorance and belive AION is a korean grinder or experience the game ...

Even if the game was like Lineage 2 but with the fantastic production AION has it would be worth a try , but fortunately, or unfortunately AION is not this type of game...

Originally posted by solareus

Good luck trying to sell this is off as "everything is grind." or "aion is Lotro with wings "

More like WOW mixed with Lineage 2.

But he is right about "everything is a grind" in mmos, just some to better at hiding it. WoW did it with fun quests... so does Aion.

If you don't get enjoyment from the quests then you just see that as a grind...

Aion is a hybrid mix of Western style MMOs (WoW/LOTR) and Korean Style MMOs (Lineage 2 to be exact)

Like I said, doing these quests, I don't feel like I'm grinding in anyway.

lol @ basing opinions on other opinions.