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General Discussion  » BioWare rethinks policy on Homosexuality

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  Troneas

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5/04/09 5:22:42 PM#1
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5/04/09 5:28:46 PM#2

"Until yesterday, words such as "gay" and "lesbian" were banned on the forum. Community manager Sean Dahlberg posted that this was because "these are terms that do not exist in Star Wars"."

So were words like "Chevy" and "baseball" filtered also?

After all, neither exist in Star Wars.

  Majinash

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5/04/09 5:29:02 PM#3

wow, that was dealt with very well.  from what i've been seeing recently with MMOs, this is very refreshing.

Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.

  IronZ

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5/04/09 5:31:06 PM#4

Because MMO forums are the exact place people should be talking about their sexuality???  Shouldn't have been banned but seriously, give me a break.

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  Cody1174

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5/04/09 6:04:31 PM#5

Its a game forum, any offtopic or heated posts are locked and removed from most forums. I think its a good way to save Moderators time and keep the forums on topic. If you want to talk about gay and lesbian subjects do it on the appropriate forums.

  Cody1174

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5/04/09 6:08:04 PM#6
Originally posted by WisebutCruel

"Until yesterday, words such as "gay" and "lesbian" were banned on the forum. Community manager Sean Dahlberg posted that this was because "these are terms that do not exist in Star Wars"."

So were words like "Chevy" and "baseball" filtered also?

After all, neither exist in Star Wars.


 

Chevy and baseball posts/theads would be moved to the offtopic forums. The point is Gay and Lesbian is a heated subject and people have strong beliefs about that topic and filtering it on a "game" forum is a very smart move.

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5/04/09 6:12:42 PM#7

Ha ha.

"Yes grand ma! Its ok to show the legs when you go out for a swim!"  Its 2009 for gods sake.

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  Troneas

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5/04/09 10:15:24 PM#8
Originally posted by Cody1174
Originally posted by WisebutCruel

"Until yesterday, words such as "gay" and "lesbian" were banned on the forum. Community manager Sean Dahlberg posted that this was because "these are terms that do not exist in Star Wars"."

So were words like "Chevy" and "baseball" filtered also?

After all, neither exist in Star Wars.


 

Chevy and baseball posts/theads would be moved to the offtopic forums. The point is Gay and Lesbian is a heated subject and people have strong beliefs about that topic and filtering it on a "game" forum is a very smart move.


 

  User Deleted
5/04/09 11:17:35 PM#9
Originally posted by Cody1174
Originally posted by WisebutCruel

"Until yesterday, words such as "gay" and "lesbian" were banned on the forum. Community manager Sean Dahlberg posted that this was because "these are terms that do not exist in Star Wars"."

So were words like "Chevy" and "baseball" filtered also?

After all, neither exist in Star Wars.


 

Chevy and baseball posts/theads would be moved to the offtopic forums. The point is Gay and Lesbian is a heated subject and people have strong beliefs about that topic and filtering it on a "game" forum is a very smart move.

In your opinion, which you are entitled to.

However, Sean Dahlberg said the reason was "these are terms that do not exist in Star wars".

  Murdus

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5/04/09 11:22:07 PM#10

"My intention was not to demean anyone but simply to help promote a community that could discuss topics in a mature fashion," he wrote."

Yes because if you want to promote mature discussion, treat us like we're in a 9th grade Gay-Straight Alliance meeting where everyone that uses those words is out to degrade the homosexual communty.

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  masterbbb26

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5/04/09 11:26:54 PM#11

facepalm* its people like you that make me sad and pessimistic about the human races future.

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  Cody1174

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5/04/09 11:38:14 PM#12
Originally posted by Troneas
Originally posted by Cody1174
Originally posted by WisebutCruel

"Until yesterday, words such as "gay" and "lesbian" were banned on the forum. Community manager Sean Dahlberg posted that this was because "these are terms that do not exist in Star Wars"."

So were words like "Chevy" and "baseball" filtered also?

After all, neither exist in Star Wars.


 

Chevy and baseball posts/theads would be moved to the offtopic forums. The point is Gay and Lesbian is a heated subject and people have strong beliefs about that topic and filtering it on a "game" forum is a very smart move.


 


 You just won the arguement for me. This is exactly why the words are now filtered. You start posting things like this and take it personal. Calling people behind the times or old.

Your response is childish. If you don't have a valid arguement or viable information to post don't post at all. Are you saying I am old? I am 27 if thats what you meant. Are you sayin I am behind the times? Because No I am not.

its just a good decision to just filter out offtopic discussion that could lead to discrimination of a particular group. Gay is very often used anyways as a derrogatory aswell. It's just obsurd to bring up sexual preference in a damn video game forum.  Don't post on a game forum if you can't stay on topic.

  Troneas

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5/04/09 11:46:01 PM#13
Originally posted by Cody1174
Originally posted by Troneas
Originally posted by Cody1174
Originally posted by WisebutCruel

"Until yesterday, words such as "gay" and "lesbian" were banned on the forum. Community manager Sean Dahlberg posted that this was because "these are terms that do not exist in Star Wars"."

So were words like "Chevy" and "baseball" filtered also?

After all, neither exist in Star Wars.


 

Chevy and baseball posts/theads would be moved to the offtopic forums. The point is Gay and Lesbian is a heated subject and people have strong beliefs about that topic and filtering it on a "game" forum is a very smart move.


 


 

Your response is childish. It's just obsurd to bring up sexual prefence in a damn video game forum. If you don't have a valid arguement or viable information to post don't post at all. Are you saying I am old? I am 27 if thats what you meant. Don't post on a game forum if you can't stay on topic.


 

you are changing your approach to the matter.

and in this i agree with you, actually - and i cannot think of any possible content for this subject to be of relevance on a video game (except perhaps if a group of gays want to share a same guild, etc.)

the point is that you got a childish reply for your previous childish statement: "The point is Gay and Lesbian is a heated subject and people have strong beliefs about that topic." this has nothing to do with your views on relevance, but rather your beliefs that homosexuality is a "touchy" subject, when in reality in this day and age more people than not have an "open mind" about it (or at least I would like to think that way) and do not get offended so easily about it.

  zymurgeist

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5/04/09 11:46:41 PM#14

So now we get to listen to endless whines from people who were banned for posting things like "This game is so incredibly gay." "It's not filtered so it has to be okay to use the word!"

No doubt it will advance the gay and lesbian cause for them to be trivialized on a video game forum.  

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  Troneas

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5/04/09 11:50:19 PM#15
Originally posted by zymurgeist

So now we get to listen to endless whines from people who were banned for posting things like "This game is so incredibly gay." "It's not filtered so it has to be okay to use the word!"

No doubt it will advance the gay and lesbian cause for them to be trivialized on a video game forum.  


 

actually, people would expect moderators do their job when it is used in such a derrogatory manner.

  Cody1174

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5/04/09 11:52:47 PM#16

How was my first post childish? Gay and Lesbian subjects along with abortion are argueably the two most heated topics today. Those subjects should be discussed on the appropriate forums not a gaming forum, in exception to a game like "The Sims" 

  Troneas

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5/04/09 11:58:03 PM#17
Originally posted by Cody1174

How was my first post childish? Gay and Lesbian subjects along with abortion are argueably the two most heated topics today. Those subjects should be discussed on the appropriate forums not a gaming forum, in exception to a game like "The Sims" 


 

you see, i don't see the "gay" subject heated at all. then again perhaps it is cultural, and I acknowldge that some places are more conservative than others.

further more, i don't believe that the crowd who lobbied for this restriction to be lifted wanted to discuss "gay" matters at all; so you don't know what "those subjects" are. they could be starting a gay-only guild for all you know. does that have to be taken to other "appropriate forums"?

  DeadeX

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Posts: 172

5/04/09 11:58:13 PM#18

Haha. How often do we hear the word "Lesbian" in an mmo? It's not a word people use to hate on eachother really. "Gay" however is often used more commonly when people badmouth eachother. This changes nothing really, people will just prone to use the more unfriendly terms of these words like ghey, f*gg0t, etc etc. Like every other game using similiar Mat. Lang. Filters.

 

What a waste of time banning these words...

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  zymurgeist

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5/04/09 11:59:30 PM#19
Originally posted by Troneas
Originally posted by zymurgeist

So now we get to listen to endless whines from people who were banned for posting things like "This game is so incredibly gay." "It's not filtered so it has to be okay to use the word!"

No doubt it will advance the gay and lesbian cause for them to be trivialized on a video game forum.  


 

actually, people would expect moderators do their job when it is used in such a derogatory manner.


 

Reasonable people might. Random internet posters won't. It's creating a source of contention over something that is entirely irrelevant to the forum's purpose simply so the people being protected can feel good about their ability  to be insulted and have their sexual preference  trivialized. It not only makes no sense to do it it makes no sense for anyone to want it. It's the gay and lesbian lobby coming out in favor of hate speech.

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  Cody1174

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5/05/09 12:00:30 AM#20
Originally posted by Troneas
Originally posted by Cody1174
Originally posted by Troneas
Originally posted by Cody1174
Originally posted by WisebutCruel

"Until yesterday, words such as "gay" and "lesbian" were banned on the forum. Community manager Sean Dahlberg posted that this was because "these are terms that do not exist in Star Wars"."

So were words like "Chevy" and "baseball" filtered also?

After all, neither exist in Star Wars.


 

Chevy and baseball posts/theads would be moved to the offtopic forums. The point is Gay and Lesbian is a heated subject and people have strong beliefs about that topic and filtering it on a "game" forum is a very smart move.


 


 

Your response is childish. It's just obsurd to bring up sexual prefence in a damn video game forum. If you don't have a valid arguement or viable information to post don't post at all. Are you saying I am old? I am 27 if thats what you meant. Don't post on a game forum if you can't stay on topic.


 

you are changing your approach to the matter.

and in this i agree with you, actually - and i cannot think of any possible content for this subject to be of relevance on a video game (except perhaps if a group of gays want to share a same guild, etc.)

the point is that you got a childish reply for your previous childish statement: "The point is Gay and Lesbian is a heated subject and people have strong beliefs about that topic." this has nothing to do with your views on relevance, but rather your beliefs that homosexuality is a "touchy" subject, when in reality in this day and age more people than not have an "open mind" about it (or at least I would like to think that way) and do not get offended so easily about it.

once again this is exactly why the subject was filtered. Useless topics get 30 posts long about offtopic subjects. If a gay guild wants to form thats perfectly fine, just don't use the public forums as a dating site; gay or straight.
 

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