The thing is in "THE WHOLE PACKAGE" of the game.

You can have a few outstanding things in a certain mmo, like PQ which i really love in War, but if the whole things just dosen't add up, than it fails!

lol bio, your the dude giving your friend all the documentaries about why wow sucks, not me.  i apologise for being "un educacated" and not understanding your whining and failing to understand and accept that your friend enjoys a game you don't. i don't like tomato's and you probably do, but fear not my friend, i am in the process of compiling several reports to try and change your mind, and will be posting a thread on tomato's online concerning my non understanding of another persons likes as opposed to mine.

WoW is both simple, so that anyone can play, and very difficult to master so it can hold your attention a long time.

And if you make friends in the game, well there's another layer.

I've played mosts mmorpg's and WoW beats them in all categories of play except for graphics.

Yogi Bera said it best: 'Nobody plays WoW anymore, it's too popular.'

I think the problem stems from your mate seeing you hopping around a bunch of games and not settling down with one of them.  If you keep quitting games your mate thinks there must be something wrong with them and so he sticks to playing his WOW account so at least his playing something while you go out and do the hard work of finding something else for both of you to play.

How about this for a suggestion.  Find a relativly popular game thats been around for over 12 months.  I'm guessing alot of the reason to go back to WOW stems from most of the games you try are bug filled just released titles.  Most MMO's take 12 months or so to iron out all the bumps so thats why I'm suggesting a slightly older title than you may be used to trying.  Heck compile a list of games these age that are still around and go over it with your friend and try and start in one of these games together that you both find interesting.  Having a friend from the get go in alot of MMO's makes alot of difference.  From the sounds of it thats whatyou tried to do with WAR but like I said WAR is a just released title and as such has alot of bugs when your used to WOW thats usually a big turn off.

Depending on your mates financial situation maybe he can afford to I dunno play 2 MMO's for a while.  That way you can play 1 MMO together and he can pop into WOW whenever he needs a break from the new MMO.  Just because you play 1 particular MMO doesn't have to mean thats the only one you can play unless of cause it means you don't eat that month because of your multiple MMO subs.  Get him involved in looking for the next MMO you both play together and you never know you both might find something else to fill the WOW void.

Originally posted by nomraw

Yep, many still like Britney Spears the same way many like WoW :P (JOKIN)

Is it a joke when it's the truth?  :P  Like I always say, wow's a great online game, but a terribly shallow mmo.  

Originally posted by zaxxon23

Originally posted by nomraw

Yep, many still like Britney Spears the same way many like WoW :P (JOKIN)

 

Is it a joke when it's the truth?  :P  Like I always say, wow's a great online game, but a terribly shallow mmo.  

Nah, WoW is Elvis, all hail the king!  

If he likes it, so what.  As long as he isn't blowing you off to do things in the game, then nothing is wrong there.  I personally think WoW is one of the worst games in history, and there are many of us, but there is nothing wrong with playing it if you enjoy it.  If he is actually refusing to do things he used to enjoy doing with you for the sake of the game, then that is actually a problem or addiction, which you should try to help your friend out with.

The sum of an mmo is not just the game mechanics or even the game itself.  A good deal of it is the people that you play with.  Personally I just got back into WOW because of a chick I recently started dating and have a real good time with her in the game.  If it weren't for her I wouldn't have resubbed and wouldn't be playing any mmo's right now lol.  The same thing went for SWG.  I played that for far longer than I ever would have if it weren't for the relationships and friendships I had made in that game.

Maybe it's not for you to decide for your friend what he should or should not be playing?

Originally posted by Thatim

WoW is simple, but can be fun.

You are EXACTLY RIGHT, Sir/Madame.

I have created a table that shows "commercialzied gamers:"

• FIRST element on the table:  "FUN"
• LAST element on the table:  SIMPLE.*

*(You can view the table here)

You are exactly right.  It is the first, and last, thing commercialized gamers look for and desire it is why WoW is a huge success.

The OP sounds like an annoying friend tbh.

If I had a guy/girl sending me snipets of conversations to convince me why I shouldnt be playing a game that I obviously enjoy doing I would stop talking to the freaking guy/girl.

OP I get it the guy is playing WoW but it could be worse......

He could be playing one of those scam MMOs (F2p) that drain your bank account or hello kitty online.

Let the dude do nothing but dailies all day and sit in a major city jumping around for ten hours.

The majority of the people on this forum seem to love that, dont bother wasting your time with him.

Sounds like how I was with SWG cause I hated it and there was so many flaws and I was complaining about it all the time but I still played it because I loved it really.

Thanks for sharing

Op your a tool for trying to push your opinions on your friend

Your friend is a tool for not telling you to stfu and mind your own business.

Nothing wrong in wanting to play something new with your friend but if he doesn't want to then let it go man..move on with your life. Your behavior resemples that of a stalker ex girlfriend. What really needs to happen here is your friend to grow a pair and tell you to mind your own business about what games he chooses to play. Who the hell sends links containing rants to their friends that involves the games they play?.

First off, why are you taking such an interest in having your buddy quit?  I mean who cares?  If he is enjoying himself and its not a serious health issue, then let him be.  Just because it isn't your cup of coffee doesn't mean it sucks.

Just because something is "simple" doesn't mean its not worth playing.  I mean grilled cheese is simple,  but does that mean im not going to eat it?  Hell  no, ill eat it whenever I want and the fact that its simple makes it so much easier to eat and make.

If everyone took your approach to gaming we would all be playing text based D&D online games.  We would spend hours upon hours in these hardcore MMOs with little or no payoff.

WoW is a great game.  It can be simple, but advanced at the same time.  Most users go the simple route, because simple is fun.

The advanced side of wow is building your guy's talent tree for maximum play, enchanting every piece of armor with the best enchants, collecting all the high end 25man raid gear, maxing out your professions and getting all the recipes.  Its collecting every single possible mount (flying and non) and getting the meta achievements. 

Personally, I think your friend should ask you why you aren't playing WoW?

I use to play WoW.  I've played much harder MMOs like Everquest and Star Wars Galaxies (pre-nerf).  WoW is a great MMO because its easy to log on and pick up.  Everquest had a much steeper learning curve and even then you couldn't really solo and the quest system blew.

Honestly, you strike me as the naive child.  You are playing WAR, which is an awesome game, but is basically WoW 2 (PvP edition).  The facts don't lie, most people love WoW and with good reason.  If the game sucks so much, then why aren't they playing something else?  Because, WoW is good ole fashioned fun.

I think you need to re-examine what you are saying.  You are way off base with your arguments and stance.  You've got it in your head that WoW sucks, but provide no argument as to why it sucks.  Like I said, you are playing WAR, which is practically a WoW clone.  WAR is based off of WoW's system and you think WoW sucks? 

Get your head checked son.

Just keep trying. Your quest to make your friend quit WoW makes you look more inteligent and an MMO coneisseiur.

I'm going to play WoW now for a while, bye.

Originally posted by Neanderthal

Originally posted by Bama1267

  You think there is some magical solution in the forums?

 

Oh but there is.  There is a magical solution.  I shall share with you the ancient wisdom of the Old Timers.  

Here is the magical ritual you must perform to extricate your friend from WoW.  First, obtain a lock of his hair.  Second, obtain an article of clothing from a virgin (must be a post-pubescent virgin).  Third, obtain a WoW cd or the box it came in.

Then, on the night of a new moon, go to a hilltop with these items.  Start a small fire.  Circle the fire with a rythmic side stepping motion, always facing the fire, and chanting, "WoW begone, release my friend".   After making three circuits around the fire toss in the article of virgins' clothing.  Continue chanting.  After three more circuits toss in the lock of your friends' hair.  After the final three circuits toss in the WoW cd or box.  Immediately after tossing in the WoW cd or box you must stop chanting, turn away from the fire and leave.  DON'T LOOK BACK!

Never tell your friend or anyone else you know that you did this.  Shortly thereafter your friend will lose interest in WoW and be freed.

Note:  side affects may include nausea, diarrea, dry mouth, blurred vision, constipation, vomiting, existential angst, upset stomach, and feelings of acute embarassment.  If these symptoms persist consult your local witch doctor.

You forgot about adding a log of barrens chat to the fire.

Look, nobody cares if you quit and now trying to get your friend quit the game.  We dont bloody care jesus.

This so called freind of yours probably dosnt even like you, maybe you should try to understand that first b4 you keep harassing him in quitting wow.  After reading this whole thread I dont like you.  So i can imagine your months and months of harassing him about wow is crap, and linking him articles to prove your point, he probably dosnt like you.

Here is a tip.  Go find a game to play

I think OP should just go with the flow and not get so wrapped up in what his friend isn't playing.

My buddies played Age of Conan while I was playing World of Warcraft with my brother and 2 other friends.  We talked about the pros and cons of each and they know I didn't care for AoC, and I tried to get them to come over to WoW, but I didn't obsess over it.

But, I dropped WoW and they dropped AoC for the most part.  So, now all of us are moving towards WAR. 

I am playing City of Heroes in the meantime while they are playing DotA (wc3) and Demigod.

We are starting up on WAR in about 2 weeks.  Just be glad you have a friend who is into MMOs.

I noticed that you basically said it was his first MMO saying that wow and war were the only mmos he has played,  so I have to say it will be hard for him to let go most people have this binding to their first mmo even if its dead (not saying wow is dead I play, but what keeps me having fun is I play with a bunch of friends which makes it much more enjoyable).   But as I said most people have a difficult time letting their first go because it is perfect to them.

Originally posted by skicks

I noticed that you basically said it was his first MMO saying that wow and war were the only mmos he has played,  so I have to say it will be hard for him to let go most people have this binding to their first mmo even if its dead (not saying wow is dead I play, but what keeps me having fun is I play with a bunch of friends which makes it much more enjoyable).   But as I said most people have a difficult time letting their first go because it is perfect to them.

Yeah, but OP isn't saying its perfect... quite the opposite acutally. But, I agree with you totally.

I started playing Everquest as my first MMO.  I remember reading about it in either PC Gamer or Game Informer.  There was this huge ad for Ruins of Kunark which was about a month from coming out.

I went online and ordered Everquest and 1-2 weeks later I had it in my hands.  I installed it about 3-4 days before Kunark dropped (I bought kunark as well). 

It was the most amazing experience.  I still to this day remember logging on for that first time and patching.  It was so much fun and I had such a blast.  EQ at that moment is perfect in my eyes.

But, there have been moments that rivaled that such as the moment I was accepted into the WoW beta.  It was so amazing and so much fun.  The launch day of WoW was so much fun too, along with the burning crusade launch.  Midnight releases are such a cool atmosphere.  You make friends easily and everyone was on the same topic.

Yeah Day 1 of WoW was great.  It was amazing to see hundreds of undead fighting for mobs and everyone going nuts. 

Probably the first time playing EQ and Day 1 of WoW are my favorite moments in my MMO past.

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Originally posted by Biohazard931

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Originally posted by Thatim

Like it or not...
 
WoW is simple, but can be fun. And aren't we playing games for them to be fun instead of difficult?
 
And as long as he is having a good time.. whats wrong with it?

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Dude, he isn't finding it fun. Didn't you read my post? He is guildess and doing nothing. Countless times he's thot of quiting.. he just wont. Thats why I'm asking for help on what to do :D

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Ive been where your friend is with WoW and with other things beleive it or not.

So many times Ive been playing WoW because IT USED TO BE FUN or I thought it was going to be fun or it was fun before, ALTHOUGH it just wasnt fun now.

I did the same thing with Basketball when I was younger.

Sadly with both scenarios, I dont think there is anything someone could tell me to understand what I eventually understood.