Ugh, go back to Failfall, k?

Strangely enough, I think you all got trolled :D

Originally posted by Fr0z1nDuDe

Originally posted by ackmhed

Originally posted by Blackbandit9

Because aquiring gear in WoW takes.....

wait a sec

I almost passed over the easy answer:

WoW is a carebear game (no I'm not a DF fan) and they'd quit.  If you ever wanted to see WoW collapse really fast you could try that (It'd be 2nd quickest to taking NE Hunters out of the game)

What does being a "carebear" game actually have to do with this issue? If you are so "hardcore", then why do you have to be rewarded for winning a simple PvP fight with someone's gear? Personally, I enjoy PvP enough that just the satisfaction of beating another player, or losing to another player, is more than enough for me. I don't need to loot someones gear to further penalize them and make myself feel more macho.

Worse yet, why would anyone ever venture out by themselves if they ran the risk of being jumped by 10 scrubs in green gear who could then proceed to get a free upgrade for their trouble of jumping a lone brave solo'er with their 10 man advantage? I PvP quite often, but why have nice gear if you have to wear a scrub set around when you are simply out and about harvesting mats because of the risk of this?

No, the easy answer is is that it is a bad idea. If you need the reward of looting someone after a simple PvP encounter, and don't get enough satisfaction just from the victory, then you are not hardcore at all. You are in fact a carebear yourself who places way to much signifigance on a simple PvP encounter.

lol... do you want to know what full loot pvp really is?...

full loot pvp = murder and robbery...

you kill the guy... then you go through his pockets for his wallet full of GOLD... then you strip him naked and take his $100000 GOLD armor clothing... lol... woooooooowwww...

full loot pvp is the reason why mmo was never popular... because it sucks... and it's stupid... the only people that plays full loot pvp mmo are the lamers of lameville who doesn't have the balls IRL to go up to someone... stab them... take his wallet... and his clothing... (LoL!!!!!)... all because they are afraid of being violated in prison afterwards... and so they want to do it in a game... (LoL!!!!! omgwtfbbq? LoL!!!)...

yea...

After thinking this idea over a bit, I have thought of one idea where partial or even full looting of a defeated player could work, and even would be a brilliant idea. Have a designated zone, or area, where if you step into that area you can be looted. The upside? The ability to not only loot your defeated opponents, but also to be rewarded with exclusive high-end pvp gear, and maybe even exclusive titles or mounts. I think this would actually be an interesting facet to the idea that would make for some great pvp battles.

Only one word is necissary to answer why WOW doesn't have Full loot pvp. And it answers many of the other questions of why they made WOW a game for the weak hearted.

Money!

Blizzard is making millions off of the game how it is right now, why would they change it?

This thread was started by the same poster that started the thread about "High IQ servers in WOW".

This is just trolling for his amusement, any replies are pointless, the guy is just looking to start fights, plain and simple.

Originally posted by Namkrav

Only one word is necissary to answer why WOW doesn't have Full loot pvp. And it answers many of the other questions of why they made WOW a game for the weak hearted.

Money!

Blizzard is making millions off of the game how it is right now, why would they change it?

You are right about that, WoW is the best MMO there is and WoW's high subscription numbers prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The thing you are completely wrong about is the concept that somehow not having full loot PvP is somehow "weak hearted". There is no full-loot PvP because it is a bad idea that very, very few people would have any interest in whatsoever.

Originally posted by ackmhed

Originally posted by Namkrav

Only one word is necissary to answer why WOW doesn't have Full loot pvp. And it answers many of the other questions of why they made WOW a game for the weak hearted.

Money!

Blizzard is making millions off of the game how it is right now, why would they change it?

 

You are right about that, WoW is the best MMO there is and WoW's high subscription numbers prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The thing you are completely wrong about is the concept that somehow not having full loot PvP is somehow "weak hearted". There is no full-loot PvP because it is a bad idea that very, very few people would have any interest in whatsoever.

Best and most popular aren't necessarily synomyous. Just look at the motion picture industry. You can make a movie that is intelligent, well made and thought provoking; or you can make one that one that will make a ton of money. It's not often that you see someone accomplish both.

lol.. see? Now darkfall has all the "PvP gurus" questioning their hardcoreness..

"REAL PvP has full loot.."

riiight??

Originally posted by kingfelix

Originally posted by ackmhed

Originally posted by Namkrav

Only one word is necissary to answer why WOW doesn't have Full loot pvp. And it answers many of the other questions of why they made WOW a game for the weak hearted.

Money!

Blizzard is making millions off of the game how it is right now, why would they change it?

 

You are right about that, WoW is the best MMO there is and WoW's high subscription numbers prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The thing you are completely wrong about is the concept that somehow not having full loot PvP is somehow "weak hearted". There is no full-loot PvP because it is a bad idea that very, very few people would have any interest in whatsoever.

Best and most popular aren't necessarily synomyous. Just look at the motion picture industry. You can make a movie that is intelligent, well made and thought provoking; or you can make one that one that will make a ton of money. It's not often that you see someone accomplish both.

You're right, rarely does one accomplish both. Blizzard did. Not only did it's subscription numbers grow to astronomical levels, it also recieved rave reviews by all major game review sites. Not only that, but all of it's expansions have done well in both areas as well. Comparing an MMO to a movie is not relevant, however, since a movie only requires a minimal initial investment while a MMO has not only a higher initial investment, but also a monthly investment as well as expansion releases as well. Not to mention the time investment.

Originally posted by Ichben

Why no full loot on the PvP servers?

It just do not match WoW concept and mechanics at all. Full loot mean compleatly different gameplay than the one in WoW. Its too long discussion if we go in more details.

Because i would camp the front of aliance low level instances and resell all the gear they put all that hard work into. Then laugh at them.

I would use level 15s as bait and gank level 80s in epics taking what I want the destroying the rest.. Im sure of course they would be frantically running back to their corpse.

Between gear stealing and welfare epics I dont see ever running out of gear in this scenario.

Ah reminds me of UO... before Chilton of course.

Originally posted by ackmhed

Originally posted by kingfelix

Originally posted by ackmhed

Originally posted by Namkrav

Only one word is necissary to answer why WOW doesn't have Full loot pvp. And it answers many of the other questions of why they made WOW a game for the weak hearted.

Money!

Blizzard is making millions off of the game how it is right now, why would they change it?

 

You are right about that, WoW is the best MMO there is and WoW's high subscription numbers prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The thing you are completely wrong about is the concept that somehow not having full loot PvP is somehow "weak hearted". There is no full-loot PvP because it is a bad idea that very, very few people would have any interest in whatsoever.

Best and most popular aren't necessarily synomyous. Just look at the motion picture industry. You can make a movie that is intelligent, well made and thought provoking; or you can make one that one that will make a ton of money. It's not often that you see someone accomplish both.

 

You're right, rarely does one accomplish both. Blizzard did. Not only did it's subscription numbers grow to astronomical levels, it also recieved rave reviews by all major game review sites. Not only that, but all of it's expansions have done well in both areas as well. Comparing an MMO to a movie is not relevant, however, since a movie only requires a minimal initial investment while a MMO has not only a higher initial investment, but also a monthly investment as well as expansion releases as well. Not to mention the time investment.

I was just using that as analogy to demonstrate that mass appeal doesn't necessarily indicate that something is of the highest quality. Am I saying that WoW is of poor quality? Not at all. Do I think there are more enjoyable MMOs on the market? Certainly.

It's funny you should mention time investment. That's actually the reason I'm beginning to lose interest in most MMOs. It's beginning to seem more and more like the majority of them simply require you to be willing to invest large amounts of time(not to mention money), with little skill or brain power involved. The whole thing is starting to become really monotonous to me.

Originally posted by Fr0z1nDuDe

you know... it wouldn't be such a bad idea to implant "a pvp full loot server" (no this will not be called the pvp server it will be called something like "full loot server")... because only the people that wants full loot will roll on that server anyway... and once they get tired of losing their legendary items to better players with worse gears... they'll finally understand the beauty of a non full loot server...

WoW has so much quests for loot items for both horde and alliance that it jsut wont fit, unless they actually revamp the whole loot system like what the previous posters said.

Some loot would be the same stats with different names due to the fact that alliance and horde have different quests to attain em. So the only loot thats worthwhile would be epic raid gear or epic pvp gear. No sense of killing players for loot you can gain from questing. Instance rewards from bosses can easily be outdatedf in at most 5 levels.

I've heard that darkfall is shutting down next month, confirm/deny?

Originally posted by Ahiles

Maybe because the game has never been designed to be a full loot pvp game?.

 

Get a bloody grip on reality.

This pretty much sums it up nicely.