You do all realize that people die all the time. That person dying while playing everquest could have died while flipping a burger at burger king.

Statistically a few deaths during video games is pretty good considering how many people play them and its bound to happen just by odds.

Originally posted by Waterlily 

MMO addiction isn't something to joke about.

There is no such thing as MMO addiction.

People who neglect themselves or their responsibilities in favour of playing MMO's don't do so because the MMO has addicted them; they are suffering from an impulse control disorder. These people do need help, often in the form of an intervention as they are unable to break their self-destructive cycle themselves .. but labelling the problem as "MMO addiction" muddies the waters by suggesting that the MMOs themselves are the root cause. They're not.

Sad as it is, some people are just mentally ill.

I was hospitalized for dehydration and sleep deprivation after reading through 20 pages of this thread. I'm going to have to sue the OP, because he didn't put a warning somewhere.

Originally posted by brostyn

I was hospitalized for dehydration and sleep deprivation after reading through 20 pages of this thread. I'm going to have to sue the OP, because he didn't put a warning somewhere.

 

Lol, this ^^.  I've been addicted to prescription drugs with actual physical addiction... mmo's are f***ing entertainment for god's sake.

*Edit - Even with actual addictions a person still has some say in whether to continue the cycle.

Originally posted by altairzq

*vomit at the replies*

Yes I think they should disconnect players after 20 hours of continue play for example.. I know people in this forum is so cool and don't care about the weak, but if a simple feature like this can save a human life, even if it's a poor clueless boy or guy,  and a destroyed family it's worth it.

My question to the OP is why should we care about these people, or rather why do you care so much? Are you afraid of dieing from playing too much and hope someone stops you?

I have not read all the posts in this thread in full detail, but from what others have said there are other activities that kill aswell because of mental deficiencies. I mean honestly should the water company be held accountable for someone drinking so much water they induce water intoxication and possibly die from it?

Such things are just trivial to worry about, and many games these days are being responsible by placing warnings that you should take a break such as L2. It's not like the devs want you dead playing their game, because a dead player couldn't pay for a sub for long.

Honestly I would suggest the OP and others concerned about this should invest their time in something more worthwhile that would help your fellow man.

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

Originally posted by Waterlily 

MMO addiction isn't something to joke about.

There is no such thing as MMO addiction.

People who neglect themselves or their responsibilities in favour of playing MMO's don't do so because the MMO has addicted them; they are suffering from an impulse control disorder. These people do need help, often in the form of an intervention as they are unable to break their self-destructive cycle themselves .. but labelling the problem as "MMO addiction" muddies the waters by suggesting that the MMOs themselves are the root cause. They're not.

Sad as it is, some people are just mentally ill.

http://vgresearcher.wordpress.com/2008/01/26/differences-between-playing-a-lot-and-addiction-in-mmos-charlton-danforth-2007/

It's simple. If we didn't have the Darwin Award, the world would be over populated. Mother nature is pretty good at weeding out the stupid to ensure our species evolve and survive.

Although some of you posters here has me questioning that theory.

Originally posted by borguk1of9

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

Originally posted by Waterlily 

MMO addiction isn't something to joke about.

There is no such thing as MMO addiction.

People who neglect themselves or their responsibilities in favour of playing MMO's don't do so because the MMO has addicted them; they are suffering from an impulse control disorder. These people do need help, often in the form of an intervention as they are unable to break their self-destructive cycle themselves .. but labelling the problem as "MMO addiction" muddies the waters by suggesting that the MMOs themselves are the root cause. They're not.

Sad as it is, some people are just mentally ill.

http://vgresearcher.wordpress.com/2008/01/26/differences-between-playing-a-lot-and-addiction-in-mmos-charlton-danforth-2007/

Hadn't seen that before, interesting read. Cheers for the link, it's always nice to have corroberation.

 The main problem here is Auto-Control... and without it, many people are goin' to fail in their lives... even worse than dieing.

Take all the games away and people will die of boredom..Really the logical thinking is ..You cant stop death.It dont matter what you do.Death is allways at your door ready to knock..I rather die of having sex than at a game though..

so they get 3hours play time and then a 5hour CD.

only click one linky fomr the OP but that seems kinda crap, id quit the game and movie on

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

Originally posted by borguk1of9

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

Originally posted by Waterlily 

MMO addiction isn't something to joke about.

There is no such thing as MMO addiction.

People who neglect themselves or their responsibilities in favour of playing MMO's don't do so because the MMO has addicted them; they are suffering from an impulse control disorder. These people do need help, often in the form of an intervention as they are unable to break their self-destructive cycle themselves .. but labelling the problem as "MMO addiction" muddies the waters by suggesting that the MMOs themselves are the root cause. They're not.

Sad as it is, some people are just mentally ill.

http://vgresearcher.wordpress.com/2008/01/26/differences-between-playing-a-lot-and-addiction-in-mmos-charlton-danforth-2007/

Hadn't seen that before, interesting read. Cheers for the link, it's always nice to have corroberation.

In Europe it's going to be recognised as an addiction when the papers institutions have brought forward are approved. It's just taking a lot of time to do this.

I think actually a lot of clinics now describe MMO addiction as internet addiction.

Originally posted by Waterlily

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

Originally posted by borguk1of9

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

Originally posted by Waterlily 

MMO addiction isn't something to joke about.

There is no such thing as MMO addiction.

People who neglect themselves or their responsibilities in favour of playing MMO's don't do so because the MMO has addicted them; they are suffering from an impulse control disorder. These people do need help, often in the form of an intervention as they are unable to break their self-destructive cycle themselves .. but labelling the problem as "MMO addiction" muddies the waters by suggesting that the MMOs themselves are the root cause. They're not.

Sad as it is, some people are just mentally ill.

http://vgresearcher.wordpress.com/2008/01/26/differences-between-playing-a-lot-and-addiction-in-mmos-charlton-danforth-2007/

Hadn't seen that before, interesting read. Cheers for the link, it's always nice to have corroberation.

In Europe it's going to be recognised as an addiction when the papers institutions have brought forward are approved. It's just taking a lot of time to do this.

I think actually a lot of clinics now describe MMO addiction as internet addiction.

The validity of I.A.D. (Internet Addiction Disorder) is just as heavily disputed.

Even the MD who coined the phrase (Dr. Ivan Goldberg) now acknowledges that it's a misleading title as it's just a symptom of other disorders rather than a separate and diagnostically distinct addiction. Below is a quote from him regarding the subject:

"Dr. Goldberg said that he has redefined I.A.D. as "pathological Internet-use disorder." He explained, "I.A.D. is a very unfortunate term. It makes it sound as if one were dealing with heroin, a truly addicting substance that can alter almost eveny cell in the body. To medicalize every behavior by putting it into psychiatric nomenclature is ridiculous. If you expand the concept of addiction to include everything people can overdo, then you must talk about people being addicted to books, addicted to jogging, addicted to other people."

I don't really agree with him. Something is different between internet addiction and MMO addiction. I have played or grinded in MMO and I didn't enjoy it. If I'm on the internet, I'm usually just looking things up and looking for info, I enjoy this and choose to do this.

If I could choose not to grind I wouldn't (and arguably I can, but to progress you are forced to do this), but stil I managed to grind in MMO in the past.  Why then? Addiction? I'm not sure, but I think so.

I have consciously chosen not to do this anymore, but it wasn't that easy, I came back to MMO which I said sucked, but with a little bit of willpower I manage to completely ignore those games which take too much time. I still do not believe it's as simple as reading a lot or going online a lot..there's a difference.

Originally posted by neonwire

Yeah I think its absolutely appaling that no safety warnings are given out with games......because they are EXTREMELY dangerous products!!!! I have been playing Spellborn recently and I nearly died!! I was playing it for days on end without stopping once!! I didnt eat anything, drink anything or sleep at all because the damned game didnt tell me too! Fortunately a friend found me in time and saved my life. Phew! That was a real close call I can tell ya.

Now I deeply fear playing any more of these dangerous games.......but......but.......I MUST play them! I cannot stop!! However if a safety warning appeared every hour saying things like "Take a 20 minute break", "Go to the toilet" or "Isnt it time you went to sleep young man?" then I might feel more safe playing as my life would not be put into such extreme danger.

I also believe that safety warnings should be attached to EVERYTHING!!! I was reading a book several weeks ago and guess what? I NEARLY DIED!!!! I couldnt put it down......and the problem is that I'm a slooooooowwww reader. Again I didnt eat, sleep or even go to the toilet when I needed to. I was sat in a pool of my own excrement and urine. It was very unhealthy indeed. Fortunately I was saved by a friend again. None of this would have happened if there was a safety warning on every 10th page.......but because I wasnt told how to look after myself, that damned book nearly killed me!!!

So yes I call for safety warnings on everything!! This is a very dangerous world we live in and millions of peoples lives are being put at risk with every game, book, film, food, drink, car, bike, horse, plane or any other object or activity that gets utilised by someone.

My heart goes out to every deeply intelligent and wise soul that has been snuffed out by a lethal computer game. It needs to be stopped or it wont be long before the entire human race becomes extinct!

seek help - if you cannot stop - that is obsession and compulsion - the core of addiction.  Believe it or not the majority of people do not suffer from your problem.  Talk to a Doctor and join a 12 step program.

Originally posted by brostyn

I was hospitalized for dehydration and sleep deprivation after reading through 20 pages of this thread. I'm going to have to sue the OP, because he didn't put a warning somewhere.

 

Brostyn, you just won the thread!

game over everyone!

Originally posted by FreddyNoNose

Originally posted by brostyn

I was hospitalized for dehydration and sleep deprivation after reading through 20 pages of this thread. I'm going to have to sue the OP, because he didn't put a warning somewhere.

 

 

Brostyn, you just won the thread!

 

game over everyone!

Haha good one..Well im going to get hooked on gambling I wonder if they would shut the place down after everyone is done with there 5 hours..

Originally posted by Waterlily

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

Originally posted by borguk1of9

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

Originally posted by Waterlily 

MMO addiction isn't something to joke about.

There is no such thing as MMO addiction.

People who neglect themselves or their responsibilities in favour of playing MMO's don't do so because the MMO has addicted them; they are suffering from an impulse control disorder. These people do need help, often in the form of an intervention as they are unable to break their self-destructive cycle themselves .. but labelling the problem as "MMO addiction" muddies the waters by suggesting that the MMOs themselves are the root cause. They're not.

Sad as it is, some people are just mentally ill.

http://vgresearcher.wordpress.com/2008/01/26/differences-between-playing-a-lot-and-addiction-in-mmos-charlton-danforth-2007/

Hadn't seen that before, interesting read. Cheers for the link, it's always nice to have corroberation.

In Europe it's going to be recognised as an addiction when the papers institutions have brought forward are approved. It's just taking a lot of time to do this.

I think actually a lot of clinics now describe MMO addiction as internet addiction.

So. What chemical do mmo's put into your body? MMO addiction is just like poker addiction... a way for people to make excuses as to why they aren't responisble for their own actions. If poker or mmo's are addicting than EVERYTHING is...

Why is there a need for a game to have to tell you that you need to rest/sleep/take a walk/go to the bathroom/eat?  Since when did they design games to babysit the players?  Next thing you know you want the game to not only tell you that you need to do those tasks but to do them for you too.  If you can't be responsible for yourself what makes you think that anyone else can?  Your body automatically sends signals to you telling you that you are tired/hungry and all sorts of stuff, the fact that you choose conciously/subconciously to ignore them means that you will most likely ignore the game too if it told you to do that during gameplay.