Originally posted by arctarus

Originally posted by Mathrym

I totally agree with you. In my opinion, I believe that players don't give games enough time after launch to adapt. If I like the feel of the game at launch, I'll usually stick to it at least until the first major patch to see in which direction the Devs go.

 Players dont give the games enough time?

How long does a game needs to be make? 4 years?

I said after the game is released.

 

During that period we  already  know where the game is heading... but releasing an un-finish games is no excuse for it!!!After the game is release its call patch, patch deals with what? Bugs!!!... but not the main content, the direction of the game which the Devs already set instone BEFORE release...

 Yes, I agree that you know where the game is heading, but you can't possibly know the feel of it. And as for releasing un-finished game, I believe that it partly our fault because we put pressure on devs/publisher to get it out ASAP. The only company I know that does not give in to that pressure (there might be others), is Blizzard. Any time people asks them when a game will get out... they always answer : When it's finished/ready... never before

Finally, to believe that direction is set in stone is quite foolish. Anything can happen and at any time, people can make any decision, including Devs. Look at how SWG changed within that fatefull patch that sent lots of players looking for another game.

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by mmoguy43

I don't think its the players fault for the game getting released too early at all. It is the players fault that when it is released too early, that they whine a bitch about everything problem they can think of. People can't be content with the content and this and that. If everyone wasn't so damned negative they might be able to see the good in the game and let it out weight the bad.

I totally agree with you.......as long as I am allowed to only pay a portion of my $15 monthly for only those parts that are good and the devs pay me the remaining $14 for the parts that suck.

Originally posted by arctarus 

im trying is to save this gene from going into oblivion

Nothing will stop your gene from going into oblivion.

Originally posted by Dibdabs

Originally posted by arctarus 

im trying is to save this gene from going into oblivion

Nothing will stop your gene from going into oblivion.

One word .. 'Cryogenics'. Or procreate which i don't recommend for the many of you on this board. If you are not all steril already from living infront of the monitors

You know you're on to something when a majority of the posters attack the English and grammar of the message bearer.

Yeah, it's pretty much all true. The players accept and excuse failed releases so the publishers commit them. What's really funny is that after the fall of nearly every hyped major release in the past 5 years people are still surprised at each failure.

Originally posted by Mathrym

 Yes, I agree that you know where the game is heading, but you can't possibly know the feel of it. And as for releasing un-finished game, I believe that it partly our fault because we put pressure on devs/publisher to get it out ASAP. The only company I know that does not give in to that pressure (there might be others), is Blizzard. Any time people asks them when a game will get out... they always answer : When it's finished/ready... never before

 

 

I disagree. Lich King was not finished. Instead of delaying release they released WOTLK with only one proper raid dungeon (one that was rehashed on top of it all). Lich King was pushed out the door by Activision just to rake in X-Mas sales. It isnt the same Blizzard you used to love.

*Waits for Zorndorf to champion his baby* in 5 4 3 2...

Originally posted by protoroc

Originally posted by Mathrym

 Yes, I agree that you know where the game is heading, but you can't possibly know the feel of it. And as for releasing un-finished game, I believe that it partly our fault because we put pressure on devs/publisher to get it out ASAP. The only company I know that does not give in to that pressure (there might be others), is Blizzard. Any time people asks them when a game will get out... they always answer : When it's finished/ready... never before

 

 

I disagree. Lich King was not finished. Instead of delaying release they released WOTLK with only one proper raid dungeon (one that was rehashed on top of it all). Lich King was pushed out the door by Activision just to rake in X-Mas sales. It isnt the same Blizzard you used to love.

*Waits for Zorndorf to champion his baby* in 5 4 3 2...

First thing... thanks for to you, I learned of the battle of Zorndorf. Had no idea what Zorndorf meant lol

Yeah I mut admit that for WOTLK, it might have been the case (I wasn't playing when it came out and didn't know anything about what was announced). Unfortunately it would make sense in a business point of view. Wasn't there also Warhammer than came out around the same time or Mines of Moria or maybe both... can't remember.  Well it seems that the MMORPG industry is stressed to get things out unfinished because of all the new players (companies) in the market.

Well, I hope Blizzard will not have SC2 and Diablo3 out before they are ready :)