As long as it had guns, swords, spaceships and different planets with different characteristics.  I would still be interested.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

I have a question for everyone, stated in the title. I get the feeling that the biggest thing this game has going for it right now is it's IP and it's maker. So many times I read "Yay it's Star Wars" or "It's Bioware, they make good games". So, all pre-conceived biases aside, based solely on screenshots and game description, would you be interested in this game not knowing the IP and not knowing who was making it?

To be honost I think I would actualy start to become more intrested in the game if it was a unknown IP from a unknown company, cause for now the only intrest I have in SW/Tor is me being curious what Bioware can do in the MMORPG genre, not so much that they are developing a Star Wars MMO, even though I am a Star Wars fan (from the old). But hey that's just me.......

If it wasn't Star Wars, I wouldn't be intersted in it. I 've always wanted to get back into a Star Wars  MMORPG and to be honest with you if it wasn't made by BioWare I wouldn't even see it.

The Graphics suck, the game is unpolished, eek, come on guys it is 2009

Is this what it was like in the cinema queue 24 hours before the first screening of The Phantom Menace?

Originally posted by Abrahmm

I have a question for everyone, stated in the title. I get the feeling that the biggest thing this game has going for it right now is it's IP and it's maker. So many times I read "Yay it's Star Wars" or "It's Bioware, they make good games". So, all pre-conceived biases aside, based solely on screenshots and game description, would you be interested in this game not knowing the IP and not knowing who was making it?

Another game with Lightsabers and such? Well then we could all assume it was just some lame Star Wars knockoff and be utterly sucky. Your question is basically, " Would you like a game you knew nothing about but looks like a Star Wars knock off?" WTF man.....seriously...

Originally posted by Abrahmm

I have a question for everyone, stated in the title. I get the feeling that the biggest thing this game has going for it right now is it's IP and it's maker. So many times I read "Yay it's Star Wars" or "It's Bioware, they make good games". So, all pre-conceived biases aside, based solely on screenshots and game description, would you be interested in this game not knowing the IP and not knowing who was making it?

This is kind of a dumb statement in all complete honesty.  If you ask this same question of any game you'd see the problem.  SWG Would anyone have been interested in it if it wasn't Star Wars, and if it wasn't done by Sony (creator of one of the longest running MMOS, and questionably the best MMO prior to SWG).  World of Warcraft, would people have been interested if it wasn't Warcraft, and it wasn't done by Blizzard?  Warhammer, Ultima Online, Matrix Online, Conan.  Everquest, DAoC, City of Heroes and a few others are the only truly successful games using their own individual IPs. And then you can still question if Everquest wasn't Medieval in nature, or if DAoC didn't follow involve Knights, or if CoH wasn't about Super Powered Beings.  A Games graphics and ideas can only carry it so far, then it simply comes down to who's making it, and what they are making it about.  Everquest probably wouldn't have made it without the Sony name behind it.  I'd say CoH is probably the best standalone game from a breakout company that didn't use anyones specific design behind it.  Short of that everyone has the big developer or the big IP to carry it past the development stage, SWG proves that once it's there and once it has it's fanbase a game will only continue to survive if it's well updated and sticks to the game that people came in to play.  I'd be willing to bet that if WoW came out with a patch tomorrow that shifted the game to more what SWG was Pre-CU that it's fanbase would fall off significantly.

So would I be interested, Yes, it's got new concepts that have never been displayed in a solid MMO before, Companion Characters, not just pets but other Characters that will partially depend upon you.  Story Driven, sure all MMOs have their story but more need either no story (so you can build your own personal story in the way you play) or an individual story that makes you feel your game is different from the guy standing next to you.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

I have a question for everyone, stated in the title. I get the feeling that the biggest thing this game has going for it right now is it's IP and it's maker. So many times I read "Yay it's Star Wars" or "It's Bioware, they make good games". So, all pre-conceived biases aside, based solely on screenshots and game description, would you be interested in this game not knowing the IP and not knowing who was making it?

Well It's hard to just throw those two factors aside, we are talking Star Wars and Bioware here, not the Toxic Avenger and John Doe Developers. I mean anyone saying that the developer and the IP have absolutely no impact what so ever on their lvl of interest concerning this game is likely to be lying.  That being said, I think you asked a question with a pretty obvious answer for a reason.  I can assume that you as well as a lot of others feel that a story driven game won't scale well in the MMO genre and in fact that's pretty much makes it a massive online single player game.  The MMO scene is already oversaturated with enough of those games and you are probably thinking TOR is just going to follow suit and we the crazed Star Wars and Bioware fanatics are just going to follow suit and blindly purchase the game just because of those two factors.

The truthful answer Abrahmm is yes.  Star Wars is just huge enough and Bioware has earned a good enough reputation that some people will purchase the game solely based on their involvement.  Will it be a mistake, will they end up disappointed who knows, maybe.  If you liked the KOTOR series chances are you'll find plenty to like in this game. If anyone is to be trusted to bring something new and exciting to a story driven MMO it would most likely be Bioware.  I mean with all the fly by night, untrustworthy, and outright greedy companies that litter the MMO market with piss poor WoW clones and other garbage, I for one am willing to give this game a chance.  I will still follow it closely and see how things develop, but barring anything crazy such as Orcs or Hobbits becoming jedi knights, I will purchase this game.  Sometimes reputation is enough as well as it should be.  As long as a developer works hard to put out fun, intruiging and enjoyable games that suits my liking I'll support them with my dollar and once they stop, then I won't. 

At this point, I think it's much too early to recommend or to condemn this game.  There are always people who are impulsive buyers and people who do their research before a purchase.  There are people who will buy something or support companies who make products they enjoy.  So I think it's too early to say whether the majority of people will just blindly purchase the game because of the IP.  It probably would have been better to ask this question like 4 or 5 months down the road when we know more about the game.  Right now it could come off as subtle trolling.  Not that I think you are or anything.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

I have a question for everyone, stated in the title. I get the feeling that the biggest thing this game has going for it right now is it's IP and it's maker. So many times I read "Yay it's Star Wars" or "It's Bioware, they make good games". So, all pre-conceived biases aside, based solely on screenshots and game description, would you be interested in this game not knowing the IP and not knowing who was making it?

I answered yes but the only problem with this poll is most of us have followed bio wares attempt at entering the mmo market for much longer than we knew it would be star wars and even from the screenshots it's hard not to think "star wars" or it would have been hard for the company to not get sued by LA if it wasn't star wars

im almost turned off that its bioware making the game.  they are AMAZING RPG developers.. but im afraid they will be bringing that to the MMO genre in a bad way for some reason.  i dunno, they are an amazing company, i just worry they might try a bit TOO hard with the story line and such... hard to explain

The question just doesn't make any sense to me.. If it isn't star wars, then that means it's something else, and you really need to define what that something else is, I need to know what the games content is made up of, and as for who is making it; it doesn't really matter to me who is making, as long as it's not a chinese, Korean, or new to the grinder scene, German, game.

If it has similar content as SW KOTOR, then I'd say there'd still be a lot of people willing to give it a shot.

Originally posted by milkyy

i think this OP is retarded....

Why?Because he asked a question that doesn't invite a flame war?Or maybe it's because he asked a question that required you to use your brain.

Well thought out post and a good question,after some thought I think the fact that it is in fact a sci fi mmo would attract me to it because I'm really burning for a good sci fi mmo and SG whatever it's called isn't doing it for me I tried starquest and couldn't get into it though it does seem like it could be a cool game and I'm not too into the concept of EVE I'm kind of turned off nwadays by hardcore games.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

I have a question for everyone, stated in the title. I get the feeling that the biggest thing this game has going for it right now is it's IP and it's maker. So many times I read "Yay it's Star Wars" or "It's Bioware, they make good games". So, all pre-conceived biases aside, based solely on screenshots and game description, would you be interested in this game not knowing the IP and not knowing who was making it?

We already dont know much. Take away IP you take away information about the setting in which the game takes place. Take away Bioware, you take away their characteristics and everything they told us about the game.

So, basically you ask if you would like a game without getting informed and solely based on some screenshots?

I miss the option 'I wouldnt have enough information to form an opinion'
 

This poll is a joke lol.

Originally posted by jaxsundane

Originally posted by milkyy

i think this OP is retarded....

 

Why?Because he asked a question that doesn't invite a flame war?Or maybe it's because he asked a question that required you to use your brain.

Well thought out post and a good question,after some thought I think the fact that it is in fact a sci fi mmo would attract me to it because I'm really burning for a good sci fi mmo and SG whatever it's called isn't doing it for me I tried starquest and couldn't get into it though it does seem like it could be a cool game and I'm not too into the concept of EVE I'm kind of turned off nwadays by hardcore games.

The question is meaningless. He rips away all information about the game that we have atm and then ask if we would like that game that we dont know anything about. That is just stupid.

Thats like saying "Oh someone out there is creating a game, do you like that game?"

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by lornj

im hammered right now and this really doesnt make sense to me. you took away the title of the game and the developer, so what would this game be? im going to say im not interested in something i dont know something about.

 

I'm saying, based on current screenshots(to determine graphical style), and current gameplay descriptions(claiming it is story driven), would you still be interested in this game if it was the Star Wars IP, and wasn't made by Bioware. Basically I'm trying to see if this game is as hyped and popular because of it's IP and maker or the merits of the gameplay. I have a strong feeling that the IP and maker are going to carry this game to success, no matter how good or bad the actual game is.

The current game description is typical Bioware in the way they emphasize on story arcs. Taking away the IP takes away a lot more information then just a name. How can storydriven have any meaning if you take away IP (setting) and creator (style) ?

And anyone who forms his opinion about liking a game or not just based on screenshots is plain stupid.

To answer the original question, I would be interested given what they've said about emphasizing story.  I doubt they can pull it off in an mmo, but I would be curious to see the attempt regardless of IP/developer.

As far as stripping away the Star Wars, frankly the game wouldn't be getting made if it weren't for the IP.  Bioware has a good track record and some weight with hardcore gaming fans, but to the average gamer  they aren't a household name. 

Also, it was proven by the SW prequels (as well as the slew of horrid SW console games in the late 90s and early 2000s) that SW fans have extremely low expectations, and are basically incapable of refraining from buying anything featuring a lightsaber.   A developer could code a game featuring poo-flinging chimpanzee pornography, stamp a SW/Lucasarts logo on the box, and fans would line up around the block to throw their money at it. 

Star Wars= Best Sci Fi story ever, and top 5 stories ever.

Bioware= best story writing company and very good games. They seriously havent released a bad game.

Taking the two best elements away its just Earthrise..........

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by lornj

im hammered right now and this really doesnt make sense to me. you took away the title of the game and the developer, so what would this game be? im going to say im not interested in something i dont know something about.

 

I'm saying, based on current screenshots(to determine graphical style), and current gameplay descriptions(claiming it is story driven), would you still be interested in this game if it was the Star Wars IP, and wasn't made by Bioware. Basically I'm trying to see if this game is as hyped and popular because of it's IP and maker or the merits of the gameplay. I have a strong feeling that the IP and maker are going to carry this game to success, no matter how good or bad the actual game is.

If the game is bad it won't be successful. Good advertising and reputation only brings people to the party, it doesn't convince them to stay.A bad game doesn't get popular. I don't see how anyone could possibly believe that a bad game can be carried by IP and company reputation alone. Surely SWG taught us that lesson.

To answer question, yes, I'm interested in the game because of the IP. I'm a Star Wars fan and I hope that I get a better feeling of being in that universe than I got the last time the IP was attempted for a MMORPG.

Originally posted by veritas_X

To answer the original question, I would be interested given what they've said about emphasizing story.  I doubt they can pull it off in an mmo, but I would be curious to see the attempt regardless of IP/developer.

As far as stripping away the Star Wars, frankly the game wouldn't be getting made if it weren't for the IP.  Bioware has a good track record and some weight with hardcore gaming fans, but to the average gamer  they aren't a household name. 

Also, it was proven by the SW prequels (as well as the slew of horrid SW console games in the late 90s and early 2000s) that SW fans have extremely low expectations, and are basically incapable of refraining from buying anything featuring a lightsaber.   A developer could code a game featuring poo-flinging chimpanzee pornography, stamp a SW/Lucasarts logo on the box, and fans would line up around the block to throw their money at it. 

Frankly I'm highly offended by the end of this post for a couple of reasons.  The simplest being that I am a diehard Star Wars fan, and I refuse with any game star wars or not, to just blindly run out and purchase without any detail, and in most cases a demo/rental.  I will admit that I've played some horrid SW/LA Games, but if you look at those same games their sales reflect their quality.  As with any individual IP with a large fan base there will always be individuals that will buy anything with it's name on it, otherwise things like LotR Online and WoW never would have made it off the ground.  Too Imply that Star wars fans are frivolously purchasing all things Star Wars despite quality is to put it plainly offensive to most true fans.

Secondly, I'm actually quite tired of hearing people Bash the Prequals, when the standing issue with them usually stands around in one way or another the retarded nature of Jar-Jar Binks, and Anakin as a child.  So I say to all who believe the prequals are this horrible excuse for a movie trilogy that you believe, think about what it is you don't like about them, pull them out, pick them up whatever you must do, make every attempt to ignore which part it is that truly makes them horrible to you, and see how you feel about the actual stories of them, not just the few characters that cause issues.  I personally find episode 3 to be one of the best movies of all time, it's epic it details the fall of a hero to become one of the greatest villains of all time, has probably the best Melee Duel of any movie I've ever seen, and has just enough Good/Evil in it to give it true drama to boost.

Sorry I just had to rant there, no offense to veritas personally just been a gorilla on my back for a while.

Is this really the community that consider them selfs hardcore MMO players?  Its a simple question.

IS THIS GAME ALL HYPE!

Is basically what it comes down to.  Is it just because of the Star Wars IP, and because Bioware has a good reputaion for games that its receving good hype?

Well easy answer hell yea.

This game with its horrible graphic style would go no where unless it had a good IP and good developer.

Think any other game thats come out recently that has cartoony graphics.  Look at all the F2P games out there that have cartoony graphics and unknown developers.

This game would be almost just as known as most the other MMO's if it did not have a solid IP or solid developing team.

I'm interested because of Bioware and their track record. Frankly I's be far more interested if they would dispense with the Star Wars crap.  Star wars is one decent movie with a cult following expanded into a marketing  campaign that trampled upon any integrity it had as a property in an unseemly  race to cash in before people caught on. They need not have hurried. If people haven't caught on yet they never will. As proof I submit they got away with Jar Jar Binks......