Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

Originally posted by Godliest

No. I'd say that your typical WoW-player got no idea of, and find no interest in, what other MMORPGs are being made: they already got WoW, and they think it's perfect, why should they care?

Hi. I'm a WoW player, and your comments here are just plain ridiculous.

 

Typical wow player. I can't get any of my friends who play wow to even play a free trial of another game. As far as they car concerned wow is the way to go and even when blizz has screwed over their classes they QQ but keep going.

Well, my guild who has over 50 ppl decided to move to Aion, after playing WoW for 4 years clearing all the raiding content all the way from Vanilla WoW to Wrath (pre-ulduar) , we have played CN OB and everyone is pretty much in love with the game, not only that but I know of other "rival" guilds who have decided to stop playing WoW and moved on to other games as a whole, so I guess none os us is right really its more a wait and see thing.

And for the initial quoted poster, what is the "Typical WoW player" in your opinion cause I think we dont have the same concept of the typical wow player.

And no I dont think there will be any "WoW-Killer" (who brought this up this stupid remark in the first place?!), blizzard knows how to keep the attention of players by giving them something for nothing and feeding up their e-pen, and that will ensure they milk as much cash as possible until they release something else, I do firmly believe Aion will take the silver medal "easily" as soon as it releases in NA/EU (yes I know they are already the second biggest in korea and china alone but they havent released Worldwide yet so i think they need that before we give them the medal).

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Its a typical korean style mmorpg, it can only really be popular in asia, but over all their style of design is subpar to western mmorgps. They rely heavily on mindless grind, the method in which characters and made and customized is also typical of the korean mmorpgs, and in my opinion is not very good. It never has been. Items are lacking. It excels at art style, but thats just about it, the games themselves tend to be very very shallow and mechanical in nature. They tend to lack the "soul" found in many a western mmorpg.

Your post totally missed on all counts my friend, Next time do your homework before ranting on about false statements in regards the style and game play of aion.

AWESOMENESS

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Its a typical korean style mmorpg, it can only really be popular in asia, but over all their style of design is subpar to western mmorgps. They rely heavily on mindless grind, the method in which characters and made and customized is also typical of the korean mmorpgs, and in my opinion is not very good. It never has been. Items are lacking. It excels at art style, but thats just about it, the games themselves tend to be very very shallow and mechanical in nature. They tend to lack the "soul" found in many a western mmorpg.

1) it can only really be popular in asia

it can only be EXTREMELY successful in asia. will be very popular in west too.

actually thousands of ppl are buying asian SSNs just to play there in advance

2) over all their style of design is subpar to western mmorgps

if style of design is marked by games like WAR, then u can keep that bullcrap,all yours. Aion landscapes and atmosphere can only be compared to LOTR, and its a comparision that LOTR loses...you really dont have a bloody clue,do you?

3) They rely heavily on mindless grind/ Items are lacking

a newcomer casual gamer will cap in Aion faster than in WoW. also for a new release without any single expansion, i find the content almost overwhelming

point proved. you know jack shit of what you'r talking about

I've been waiting for this game for 2 years, and I've not been disappointed yet.  I can't wait for it to hit US shores and I have no idea if it's going to be the "Next Big MMO", but it's what I've been looking for.

 Aion is already a big hit in Asia and I'm sure it will take USA/Europe by storm. From what I've seen, its a wonderful game

Like every asian game, this has a good chance to fail :) Graphics is not all! If evryrhing will be the "next big one" it will be Blizzard's :) Cheers

Btw .. i don't think i like everything even in the graphics aspect. Characters look like teenage freak fashion gay show!

Gotta love how all of the "it won't be a hit" comments come with a prejudice that makes it obvious they haven't done any kind of research. Gotta love how possitive the feedback is from those who say that played and prove they've played it. Some games are hyped before people try them out, Aion is being hyped after people try it out ;D

Originally posted by ntrust

Like every asian game, this has a good chance to fail :) Graphics is not all! If evryrhing will be the "next big one" it will be Blizzard's :) Cheers

Btw .. i don't think i like everything even in the graphics aspect. Characters look like teenage freak fashion gay show!

ROFL Who is this clown?

Originally posted by aZzAY

Originally posted by ntrust

Like every asian game, this has a good chance to fail :) Graphics is not all! If evryrhing will be the "next big one" it will be Blizzard's :) Cheers

Btw .. i don't think i like everything even in the graphics aspect. Characters look like teenage freak fashion gay show!

 

ROFL Who is this clown?

Its pathetic ppl like ntrust need to use country of origin to assess quality of goods.  Fact is almost everything a Western eat and drink have components from the third world.  If ntrust insist he will not eat any food with asian input, he can starve.

As for the internet and online games, this is even more pathetic.  US companies have been using Asian talents thru the net for over 10 years.  Wake up ntrust and stop feeding your pathetic ego.  Without Asia, all the major IT projects in US will suffer.  You know how many filipino, India, Isrealean, Chinese, Korean programmers are hired by the US firms?  The best banking software are designed in the Netherlands and make in China, the BMW/Mercedes are the last major car manufacturers to move their DESIGN team to China.  Almost all home appliances design and product testing are make in China.  Japan and Korea are already considered high cost centres and are mainly used for project management.  US?  Oh well, US is a high cost but NOT very productive country in many aspects from manufacturing to design.

So bring your racist prejudice home, and start checking your underwear and refrig.  You can stop eating and wearing now.

Wow .. relax people, nothing naci in my post really. My opinion was that then don't give enough attention to the quality that's all, and i don't like the art style, not a big fan of manga and final fantasy kind of stuff ... that's all, don't get freaking mad. Btw ... i didn't insult anybody with my post, which is oposite to what you did. Pathetic is your behaviour because this is game forum and not an arena to defend any race or country. Why so serious?????

I don't leave in western country either so chill. And ... btw the most defenders of the 3d world don't live in it, so stop being so caryring on words.

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Its a typical korean style mmorpg, it can only really be popular in asia, but over all their style of design is subpar to western mmorgps. They rely heavily on mindless grind, the method in which characters and made and customized is also typical of the korean mmorpgs, and in my opinion is not very good. It never has been. Items are lacking. It excels at art style, but thats just about it, the games themselves tend to be very very shallow and mechanical in nature. They tend to lack the "soul" found in many a western mmorpg.

Fail at reading don't you? You posted this right after a post explaining how the game is not how you describe.

/facepalm +10

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 I'm not sure why you even want to speculate about it's potential popularity in the first place.  I do know one thing, there has yet to be an eastern made MMO to ever be a big hit in the States.  I've yet to hear of a single one that ever had as many as 200K American / European subscribers.  Sure, most if not all of them are very popular in Asia, but they do piss poorly anywhere else.  FFXI and Lineage II are probably the most popular of the bunch and i seriously doubt they even come close to 150K American subscribers between the both of them.

AION will be popular in the East as it has already shown.  I've yet to see anything about the game to make it wildly popular here.  I'm sorry, but a few minutes of flight aren't nearly enough of a hook to make it even come close to any Western made MMO numbers.  Other than the gimmicky flight, there is nothing about the game that makes it shine in my book.

Originally posted by ntrust

Wow .. relax people, nothing naci in my post really. My opinion was that then don't give enough attention to the quality that's all, and i don't like the art style, not a big fan of manga and final fantasy kind of stuff ... that's all, don't get freaking mad. Btw ... i didn't insult anybody with my post, which is oposite to what you did. Pathetic is your behaviour because this is game forum and not an arena to defend any race or country. Why so serious?????

Your opinion is false. It's fine not to like the art style, but it's not because it's not your cup of tea that the art is subpar or not of high quality. Anyone who has played Aion or been paying attention will just shake their head at you for saying so.

Cheers.

Originally posted by ntrust

Wow .. relax people, nothing naci in my post really. My opinion was that then don't give enough attention to the quality that's all, and i don't like the art style, not a big fan of manga and final fantasy kind of stuff ... that's all, don't get freaking mad. Btw ... i didn't insult anybody with my post, which is oposite to what you did. Pathetic is your behaviour because this is game forum and not an arena to defend any race or country. Why so serious?????

They don't give enough attention to quality?  How so?

As a project manager, I will hire an average Jap QC over any Westerner.  I know he will not go home after 6, if he feels the product is not perfect.  He will bring it home for thanksgiving, and keep checking.  Average that is, but I know individuals differs, so I tend NOT to look at his/her race/sex/age, but rather pick the guy who does the work.  Asia or whatever, male or female, whatever the age, so long as he/she is not underaged.  The weakness of the Asians for the last generation is too disciplined and less creative, but the latest generation of Korean designers have push down all walls.

You don't like the art style translates to your conclusion that it has a chance to fail?  Interesting conclusion.  And that is your only solid point in your whole pile of meaningless alphabets?

Why so serious, you draw conclusion based on countries, not just one but a whole bunch from Asia.  You have to label a whole bunch of countries and equate their work into having a chance of failure, for no apparent reason apart from being "Asian".  This is the kind of mentality that alienates US from the world at large, and even alienate much of Europe.  How about you start telling us where the problem of Aion lies, apart from it being Asian.  How does Asians place less attention to quality, when actually the entire world machinery of manufacturing is now in Asia, with their products meeting all the world safety standard and such?  Why is it pathetic?  Pathetic as in way of presentation being prejudiced, by race and country of origin.  Don't try to kid me by arguing that Asia =/= race.  You only make you look more irresponsible.  I am not insulting you as a person, but I strongly feel that the way you present your views is pathetic, as it lends itself to very narrowminded discussions based on country of origin, and naturally racism.

Why so serious?  You started a racist argument and run away.  Woo to the education and the money spent providing you with education.  Woo to the tax money I pay hiring the teachers, whose hours you wasted.

Originally posted by Sarbocabras

Originally posted by AlienShirt

Aion, in all it's WoW-clone glory, is definately NOT the next big MMO.

play the game, then you will realize its nothing close to wow

Yeah AIONs UI looks NOTHING like WoWs UI. My bad.

Originally posted by AlienShirt

Originally posted by Sarbocabras

Originally posted by AlienShirt

Aion, in all it's WoW-clone glory, is definately NOT the next big MMO.

play the game, then you will realize its nothing close to wow

 

Yeah AIONs UI looks NOTHING like WoWs UI. My bad.

Yeah, who cares about intuitivity, responsiveness and genre standards that shouldn't be changed, it's a wow clone, one, one, one.

Originally posted by Vrazule

 I'm not sure why you even want to speculate about it's potential popularity in the first place.  I do know one thing, there has yet to be an eastern made MMO to ever be a big hit in the States.  I've yet to hear of a single one that ever had as many as 200K American / European subscribers.  Sure, most if not all of them are very popular in Asia, but they do piss poorly anywhere else.  FFXI and Lineage II are probably the most popular of the bunch and i seriously doubt they even come close to 150K American subscribers between the both of them.

 

And who makes Aion? :P Think a little and maybe you'll figure out why this thread is relevant, I know you can.

Originally posted by Vrazule

  I'm sorry, but a few minutes of flight aren't nearly enough of a hook to make it even come close to any Western made MMO numbers.  Other than the gimmicky flight, there is nothing about the game that makes it shine in my book.

you seem to think western made MMO have bigger numbers.   that is true of ONE game, WoW.  just because your NA servers aren't full doesn't mean the game isn't populated.

yes, its hard to see past our home, we see NA numbers, we visit english forums, thats how we measure it.  but asia has a FAR larger gamer population (yes, most of WoWs 11-12million are from asia).

you just need to re-evaluate how you see the game.  Asia is the bigger market, so the game that appeals to them more is going to be a bigger success.  Lineage2 boxes were boasting 13million subscribers 2 years ago (we don't have to believe them of course) but it goes to show that just because you think its not "Western" enough doesn't mean it won't be a huge success.  the western MMOs are the ones that seem to be having trouble.