Originally posted by RBlackheart

I think you are joking yourself if you truly believe my article was a paid advertisement from Adventurine. Feel free to float across every mmorpg site on the web and you will see one obvious thing: Adventurine hasn't spent a dime on advertising. In fact, all of the hype both good and bad this game has generated has been from word of mouth alone. They don't even have a "Buy Now" button on their website.

-Andy Cormier

That's kind of the point of viral marketing...the developers get their press releases posted as "reviews" or "overviews" without paying a dime but honestly you lost all credibility with your statement that if a game is the most discussed game on mmorpg.com then it's the most discussed game in the universe.

Originally posted by Flummoxed

Originally posted by RBlackheart

1. It forces players to make decisions and physically roleplay by simply "living" in the world.

Has Tasos ever explained why they decided against Perma-death?

Living in a harsh and realistic world, i'd have thought this would be mandatory.

 

Very True,  Why dont they go with perma death since they boast it to be so realistic?   That would be so funny.

How the heck do you purchase this?

Originally posted by panchoe

• "You will not find a single thing in Darkfall that you have to do."
• "This is where Darkfall really sets in stone the simple fact that you are now in a harsh world, and it's up to you to figure it out."
• "You will die often and You will lose your stuff. "

 

That sums it up well.

 

• "The word is "devolution". UO had a far better skill system, features and gameplay than this game does at this stage."

 

The typical, game x is better than game y.  Substantial!

No, it's not a typical "x is better than y" statement; no more than the article is comparing "x to y" by saying DF is the evolution of UO. The poster you are responding to believes the opposite, that it's a step backwards, and cited reasons why.

So.. it's okay to compare DF to UO when it's positive toward DF... but not okay when it's negative? Of course. Typical DF fan "logic" and double standards.

• "The NPC AI in this game is dumber than doornails."

 Fighting NPCs in Darkfall?  Who the hell does that?  If you would rather kill mobs you are playing the wrong game.

Maybe you should ask AV that question.

They're the ones who talked about DF having advanced mob AI that would keep even PvP'ers challenged and entertained, as well as having enough content to keep someone who doesn't enjoy PvP entertained. So, evidently AV intended hunting and killing mobs to be a significant part of the game; your personal spin on it notwithstanding.

Amazing how many DF fans seem to miss or "forget" those details in their rush to bash someone for bringing up NPCs/mobs. 

Originally posted by liberalguy

Originally posted by RBlackheart

I think you are joking yourself if you truly believe my article was a paid advertisement from Adventurine. Feel free to float across every mmorpg site on the web and you will see one obvious thing: Adventurine hasn't spent a dime on advertising. In fact, all of the hype both good and bad this game has generated has been from word of mouth alone. They don't even have a "Buy Now" button on their website.

-Andy Cormier

That's kind of the point of viral marketing...the developers get their press releases posted as "reviews" or "overviews" without paying a dime but honestly you lost all credibility with your statement that if a game is the most discussed game on mmorpg.com then it's the most discussed game in the universe.

MMORPG.com has the largest user base of all mmropgs by a mile. So much so that people flock here for information on the genre. So if it the most talked about here, you can infer the rest...

I did hear though that Adventurine, Tasos specfically, was being investigated for the assassination of JFK. I also wouldn't be surprised if Jimmy Hoffa's body turned up in Greece next to Adventurine HQ. These devs are a crafty bunch.

-Andy Cormier

Originally posted by Trueth

How the heck do you purchase this?

When the store is actually open, you can purchase it here:

https://www.darkfallonline.com/accounts/f/default.php

You will have to fish around the official forums to see when the next time they will be opening it is. It sells out fast too so you need to be there the second they say it will open.

-Andy Cormier

Thanks for info but "The shop is temporarily offline". :-)) And not for so short time ... obviously they have different view about word "temporarily" as potential customers.

Originally posted by daarco

 

And i liked what i did read. Good work OP. Cant wait for part 2. Hopefully it will shut some trolls/idiotes up.

Coming a mere two posts after the article's author posted this:

"For those of you that feel this overview has been biased thus far, please hold your opinions until reading part 2. Part 2 is exclusively dedicated to the negative aspects of Darkfall Online both in game and out of the game (trouble purchasing, etc). I feel this may be the most important part of my 10 part overview because it will contain factual imformation about the weaknesses of the game in its current state. This is vastly different than reading the rants and musings of a seemingly large army of people who discredit the game without ever having played it."

The timing of your post couldn't have been better (well, unless it was the next post immediately after it)

That said...

Assuming they point out real issues and don't sugar-coat or make excuses for them the way the rabid DF fans do, I don't think it's going to be shutting any "trolls" or "idiotes" [sic] up.

If your track record in responding to negative feedback of AV or DF is any indication, daarco, your reaction to Part 2 should be very interesting indeed. :).

Wonder if you'll still be praising them for their work after reading it.

Guess we'll see, won't we.

I actually think posting the negatives will have more of an impact on the "trolls" than the positives will. It's quite easy to point out people bashing the game because they point out negatives that no longer exist or are simply not true. Some negatives do exist though, and its important (to me at least) that people know about those as well as the good. After all an "overview" should cover all pertinent aspects.

-Andy Cormier

Originally posted by RBlackheart

Originally posted by boxfetish

 

Yes this is actually a feature of Darkfall in my opinion. Having one character in one world does SO many things without specifically forcing any of them. Many of which happen to be my pet peeves in other games:

1. No gold sellers because this is all you will ever be known for. I have yet to see a single gold seller in Darkfall, ever
   
   Gold sellers only go to games they believe they'd have a viable market in to make it worth their while. Given the overall size of DF's population... as well as the difficulty in even getting an account to begin with, I think those are much more the reason for a lack of gold sellers in DF than what you cited. Also, gold sellers don't get to use much more than one character before the account is banned anyway. So the "one character" is a non-factor in that regard as well.
   
   No argument with the other points, I like the accountability it brings as well. 

 Ok here is what I don't get.

How can so many people who have never even played a game hate it so much! Or on the other side love it so much! I for one would never come out and say I hate War hammer on line, because it is just a piece of crap, has bad AI and nobody should have more than one character. Furthermore all these stupid classes forcing me to do what they want not what I want sucks. Or say I love mortal online because the video and few feature actually advertised make it sound so awesome.

Why wouldn't I say this despite reading things about the game that may indicate this is so, I'll tell you why because I have never played it. Therefore I have no valid opinions one way or the other about the game, so I would keep my uninformed mouth shut. This way I do not look like a fool.

Thats just my two cents though, but it just seems to me that articles like this are the point of websites about games. So I the reader and game fan, can come read about the game from someone who has actually played it and therefore has an informed opinion. Then I can take that and make a decision to play or not. So good work MMORPG.com keep making articles about games and just keep ignoring the people who seem to have nothing better to do than come on and complain about things that most of them actually know little or nothing about :)  

Originally posted by RBlackheart

I think you are joking yourself if you truly believe my article was a paid advertisement from Adventurine.

That is obvious. I mean, it would be a little embarassing if you couldn't even spell the name of your employer correctly.

Other than that, nice article, keep it up.

Originally posted by liberalguy

Originally posted by daarco

And is not Darkfall a MMORPG?  What is wrong about MMORPG.com writes about MMORPGs?? Cant understand why it should be "wrong".

Editorial content is fine but when it's paid advertising and developer press releases posing as editorial content then there is a problem.

Sorry for the rude tone but not even retards or morons could have said this . For a company that doesnt pay their ingame Gm's or forum moderators, or even spent a dime in advertising this game anywhere i really dotn understand what made you said that. What i know is,  that if there wasnt Darkfall i probably  wouldnt  have known that mmorpg.com even exist. Even if i dont play darkfall ,and probably never will ( i am a wow carebear for fucking sake) i come to this site to read only about darkfall. isnt it weird? i dont like pvp mmo's.  I really feel sick even in the idea that someone will kill me and full loot me. I hate Df's bad animations stability problems, crashes because of huge zergs,  and most of all i hate the luck of communication from the devs or should i say no comunication at all . BUT. It seems that this game has a magic vibe that surrounds it. I spend 2 or 3 hours everyday in official forums for a game that i am not gonna play ever. i have always mmorpg.com open just in case a new article or post for darkfall appears. Yes i want to know more about darkfall. I want to hear everyone. The trolls, the fanboyz, the haters.  Where else can i go to do that except from here and official forums? And yea as someone stated early in this thread . mmorpg.com is bussines. If ppl want  to hear more about darkfall mmorpg.com must satisfy it's readers needs . Where's the harm? And by any chance did it  ever cross your mind that if it wasnt darkfall,  trolls and haters would be out of job?......... Think about it.

PS.  Emm are you a MO dev that is pissed because your game isnt hyped at all by this site? or should i say any site? Sorry  but  i couldnt help it                                                                                                   

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by daarco

 

And i liked what i did read. Good work OP. Cant wait for part 2. Hopefully it will shut some trolls/idiotes up.

Coming a mere two posts after the article's author posted this:

"For those of you that feel this overview has been biased thus far, please hold your opinions until reading part 2. Part 2 is exclusively dedicated to the negative aspects of Darkfall Online both in game and out of the game (trouble purchasing, etc). I feel this may be the most important part of my 10 part overview because it will contain factual imformation about the weaknesses of the game in its current state. This is vastly different than reading the rants and musings of a seemingly large army of people who discredit the game without ever having played it."

The timing of your post couldn't have been better (well, unless it was the next post immediately after it)

That said...

Assuming they point out real issues and don't sugar-coat or make excuses for them the way the rabid DF fans do, I don't think it's going to be shutting any "trolls" or "idiotes" [sic] up.

If your track record in responding to negative feedback of AV or DF is any indication, daarco, your reaction to Part 2 should be very interesting indeed. :).

Wonder if you'll still be praising them for their work after reading it.

Guess we'll see, won't we.

 

Belive it or not, i treat DF as any other MMO. But the thing is that i dont like BS talk about any MMO. I know some claimed to have read my post history, if that is the case. They will see i hate BS in any MMO forum.  If i dont have anything good to say i dont post.

And im really looking forward to read the next part : )

Hopefully it will give all trolls/haters enough sense to stop saying the same thing over and over again. It will become alike a official statement over DFs problems. Then we can move forward : )

Example: Im getting pretty tired of people screaming there is no quests in DF.  No, its a non quests based MMO!

The reason why people hate this game is because of Tasos and his big mouth and the fact that it totally failed to deliver on almost everything they've ever said it would be.
One thing I can't understand is why anyone would waste any time playing this junk when they can just go play Asheron's Call 1 Darktide and get a totally superior game and even cheaper monthly rate.. They tried to be like it but Darkfall can't even sniff where AC1 takes its shits.
This game will be totally dead by the end of the year when the guilds still left playing finally get bored to death doing nothing over and over again.
I could go play Savage 2 for free and get 10x the production quality and enjoyment.

These morons built a game for themselves and their friends to play which is why it totally failed.

Originally posted by GMny

The reason why people hate this game is because of Tasos and his big mouth and the fact that it totally failed to deliver on almost everything they've ever said it would be.
One thing I can't understand is why anyone would waste any time playing this junk when they can just go play Asheron's Call 1 Darktide and get a totally superior game and even cheaper monthly rate.. They tried to be like it but Darkfall can't even sniff where AC1 takes its shits.
This game will be totally dead by the end of the year when the guilds still left playing finally get bored to death doing nothing over and over again.
I could go play Savage 2 for free and get 10x the production quality and enjoyment.

These morons built a game for themselves and their friends to play which is why it totally failed.

This is the kind of statements i dont understand.

Exactly what part did they totally fail in? We have the FFAPvP, monted combat, no instances, massive battles (if you dont consider 800 people massive i dont know), empire building. naval warfare (you need many people to crew on ship), a massive world.

I try not to post this as a fanboi. Just what i see ingame when i play. I have not seen the warhulk siege weapon, so i wont talk about that. Most other MMOs dont even have half of those features. So what is it really to complain about?

Again, try for yourself to list the features we have. And see what is missing now. Remember they add features on a weekly basis.

Of course i want more features myself, cant argue about that : )

I haven't played the game, myself, so I can't really comment on accuracy. It was very fun to read though. I enjoyed the sarcasm.

Also, Mrbloodworth made me lol. Arguing with the boss. :P

Originally posted by RBlackheart

Originally posted by Trueth

How the heck do you purchase this?

 

When the store is actually open, you can purchase it here:

 

https://www.darkfallonline.com/accounts/f/default.php

 

You will have to fish around the official forums to see when the next time they will be opening it is. It sells out fast too so you need to be there the second they say it will open.

 

-Andy Cormier

Heh... o.k. I think it's safe to say we can all see how "objective" your next 9 parts will be. 

I am interested to hear to your take on the blatant disregard for representing the true state of the game on Aventurine's own official website though. 

Hopefully at least one of your articles will do some justice to the complete lack of professionalism and blatant disregard of ethics that Aventurine seems to propagate by still promoting it's missing Features.

I'll make it easy for you.  Here's just a small sampling of what can still be found on their "Features" list:

• You can enjoy easy communication with your friends, even while outside the game. Darkfall's Communication interface includes in-game message and trade boards, an IRC-style chat system, instant messaging, voice support, and even mobile phone SMS messaging.
   

• Trade your hard earned items using Darkfall's secure trade interface and in-game trade boards.

• Protect your home and expand your holdings as you build your empire.

• Darkfall's crafting system is intuitive, non-repetitive, challenging, useful, fun - and profitable. Using Darkfall's virtually limitless item creator system, you could invent and be the first to use a weapon as awesome as the Flamefury Raudstaal Battleaxe of Bloodshed, or just make a simple saddle for your horse.

• Bring your goods to market using Darkfall's sophisticated and secure trading system, bringing buyers and sellers together easily whether they're inside the game or not.

• Struggle as your battlefield-bound army marches into a severe storm. In Darkfall, the weather is more than just window dressing. 
   

All found on the official site's "Feature" list.  How much of that above is in-game?  Anyway... I'll check out at least 1 more article.  We'll see how it goes from there.

Originally posted by cbesner

 Ok here is what I don't get.

How can so many people who have never even played a game hate it so much!

You confuse "Hate" with harsh criticism as a natural response to over hyping and woefully under delivered and half backed product, and a natural response to a zealot like player base of MMO nubs who's only intent is to be stupid, and cause flame wars as some sort of "Marketing" or simply lack of intelligence all in the name of "Hardcore PvP" that they will find, they are not as hardcore as they thought they were, they are just masochist with more time than real life responsibility.

=)