What is your guess on WAR sub numbers for Q1 to be reported on May 12. Reminder: The last guidance (Q4) was 300.000 in their Q3 earnings report. This was just after Christmas sales. Do you think numbers have improved or have gotten worse ? please vote

I know, it is still three weeks till then, but I think starting the poll now gives more people the chance to participate.

Mythic said not too long ago they had 300K members but that number was increasing.  Some believe it was due to aggresive marketing and the 10 Day trial.

Personally, I believe its between 300 and 400K.

I'll say it stay the same, between 200k to 300k.

I'am in the 2-300k bracket as well they may well go over the 300k if they include the Russian sub but the EU and state servers are almost certainly below the 300k mark now.

My guestimate is between 200-300k.

(that's not the same btw to the guy up here, they had 300k+ back in december)

Their numbers did increase by a lot with the new careers being introduced plus other stuff, but as far as I can tell they've gone down again. My guess goes to 200-300k.

I fully believe that the wording will be manipulated in some way, so that outsiders won’t be able to get a clear outlook. “Active player base” or “Active Registered Players”. Both of which could or could not include trials. But personally, in my last couple of sub’d weeks (ends tomorrow) I’d say the numbers are still down from last quarter. Over 250, but not over 300.

I would have to say at most 200k (maybe) and that is giving them the benefit of the doubt.

 Personally i could care less if they had 20 subs or 10 million the game is horrible in my opinion.  Nothing could get me back playing this game.

Im going to guess 220k. The 6 month subs will be running out now, but it may be offset by the Russia release and the business whipped up with the free trials.

 It's under nine thouuuusaaaaand.....but thats just my guess.

I have a feeling they won't be precise in their statement, or try to include trial accounts into it.

Real subscribers, I'd say 150k - 250k, just to guess.

LOTRO has around 150K subs, so I'm guessing Warhammer will have 190K

Originally posted by atomhimself

Mythic said not too long ago they had 300K members but that number was increasing.  Some believe it was due to aggresive marketing and the 10 Day trial.

Personally, I believe its between 300 and 400K.

         Judging by the population I'd say it is going down......I play on the most crowded NA server and it is almost never above med-med anymore.......It is the only one I have seen reach full in the past 2 months........The trial is probably attracting some people but it seems like quite a few are still leaving..........I would guess it has somewhere around 250-275k and will probably be closer to 250k by May.

Originally posted by Theocritus

Originally posted by atomhimself

Mythic said not too long ago they had 300K members but that number was increasing.  Some believe it was due to aggresive marketing and the 10 Day trial.

Personally, I believe its between 300 and 400K.

 

         Judging by the population I'd say it is going down......I play on the most crowded NA server and it is almost never above med-med anymore.......It is the only one I have seen reach full in the past 2 months........The trial is probably attracting some people but it seems like quite a few are still leaving..........I would guess it has somewhere around 250-275k and will probably be closer to 250k by May.

I would hope they would increase.

WAR is not a game I will probably ever play again.

However, as I state now and then.. failed games do not help the cause of a "game player".  It would only make investors insist on more narrow focus of "what sells" and that imho has been one of the major problems in the market as it is.

So even tho I didn't like the game I really do hope... they turn it around in a more positive manner.. somehow..

Originally posted by Antarious

Originally posted by Theocritus

Originally posted by atomhimself

Mythic said not too long ago they had 300K members but that number was increasing.  Some believe it was due to aggresive marketing and the 10 Day trial.

Personally, I believe its between 300 and 400K.

 

         Judging by the population I'd say it is going down......I play on the most crowded NA server and it is almost never above med-med anymore.......It is the only one I have seen reach full in the past 2 months........The trial is probably attracting some people but it seems like quite a few are still leaving..........I would guess it has somewhere around 250-275k and will probably be closer to 250k by May.

 

I would hope they would increase.

WAR is not a game I will probably ever play again.

However, as I state now and then.. failed games do not help the cause of a "game player".  It would only make investors insist on more narrow focus of "what sells" and that imho has been one of the major problems in the market as it is.

So even tho I didn't like the game I really do hope... they turn it around in a more positive manner.. somehow..

I disagree. Investors are already only investing in what they think "sells". WAR is a very clear example of such a game. I see WAR failing as showing investors that what worked for WoW doesn't really work else where, and they may be more inclined to try something different, instead of more of the same.

OP, really who cares?

If you enjoy playing the game find a busy server and have Fun. Otherwise you are wasting your time.

Even if an "insert MMO name here" had 10k players and the publisher would find it profitable to continue keeping it alive and add content regularly I wouldn't mind playing it if it's fun.

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Originally posted by Deewe

OP, really who cares?

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At last count?

406 people, including you.

Originally posted by Deewe

OP, really who cares?

If you enjoy playing the game find a busy server and have Fun. Otherwise you are wasting your time.

Even if an "insert MMO name here" had 10k players and the publisher would find it profitable to continue keeping it alive and add content regularly I wouldn't mind playing it if it's fun.

I really care, since I am EA Stock owner... If you don't care, fine with me. But why would you waste your time on this thread then ?

I'l say it stays roughly the same with between 300k to 400k as reported in the last quarter.

They may try to fudge the figures with the 10 day trial, I hope not but any business likes to put a positive spin on things no matter who they are.

The figures however may improve as they release in more countries, following the same tactic as Blizzard who now has a more dominant Asian player base than Western.

I guessed at 200-300k, probably around 250k though I doubt EA will give anything more then what they consider a rough estimate to avoid any conflict with stock holders. Judging by my former ingame guild (before I moved to greener pastures) Pop Jumped a lot with the trial accounts, but they say it has leveled off and maybe dipping a bit. Will be interesting to see.

Originally posted by Deewe

OP, really who cares?

If you enjoy playing the game find a busy server and have Fun. Otherwise you are wasting your time.

Even if an "insert MMO name here" had 10k players and the publisher would find it profitable to continue keeping it alive and add content regularly I wouldn't mind playing it if it's fun.

That is all very true, however some ppl like to see numbers to prove that a game is doing well, and to make them feel more secure about their purchase, alot of ppl are like sheep and just follow the crowds rather than making up their own minds.

Games such as Neocron 2 has less than 10k players yet it still exists as an mmo, obviously the developers are able to still make a profit otherwise the game would have ceased to exist very much like Shadowbane who closed it's door recently.

I'm interested though in seeing how much impact the free trial has had on the game and wether the recent patches and content updates have brought ppl back to the game, the latest WoW expac has now been out for awhile and ppl maybe looking for a new game, so WAR might benefit from that aswell.

It would be satisfying to see an improvement in subscriber numbers if there is one, if there isn't and the numbers have stayed the same or decreased I still won't be concerned, I don't work for EA I'm just a customer and I've already got my moneys worth out of the game.

Originally posted by Sortran

I guessed at 200-300k, probably around 250k though I doubt EA will give anything more then what they consider a rough estimate to avoid any conflict with stock holders. Judging by my former ingame guild (before I moved to greener pastures) Pop Jumped a lot with the trial accounts, but they say it has leveled off and maybe dipping a bit. Will be interesting to see.

I've seen a HUGE increase in ppl in the T1 areas, and it's still like that even today before the server I was on came down for maintenance (Damn them), so I think the 10 day Trail is still having a big impact, everyone loves a free trial.

Giving a free trial is also a good sign in that the developers feel more secure about thier game, ofc the flip side is ppl will say it as a sign of desperation, but if thats true why would WoW have a free trial.

Originally posted by Sortran

I guessed at 200-300k, probably around 250k though I doubt EA will give anything more then what they consider a rough estimate to avoid any conflict with stock holders. Judging by my former ingame guild (before I moved to greener pastures) Pop Jumped a lot with the trial accounts, but they say it has leveled off and maybe dipping a bit. Will be interesting to see.

you apparently know very little of the legal requirements of public companies to provide accurate and true information regarding their business operations.  But, nice try.

Originally posted by Tyvolus1

Originally posted by Sortran

I guessed at 200-300k, probably around 250k though I doubt EA will give anything more then what they consider a rough estimate to avoid any conflict with stock holders. Judging by my former ingame guild (before I moved to greener pastures) Pop Jumped a lot with the trial accounts, but they say it has leveled off and maybe dipping a bit. Will be interesting to see.

 

you apparently know very little of the legal requirements of public companies to provide accurate and true information regarding their business operations.  But, nice try.

I'd love for you to read to me their first EQ quarterly report after WAR's release and tell me "exactly" what it meant for WAR. Because there were countless different descriptions of what it "could" have meant.

Yes they have an obligation not to lie if they state something in a clear manner. There's no obligation to do that though. They can simply say they have "450k people playing WAR today!" and that would not be a lie on their part even though it might include 150k trials for all we know.

In other words, even though they may not lie about numbers in the report they also may not be an accurate representation of what most of us would call "Subscribers".  More often they will use "players" actually which is a totally undefined legal term which you can't easily lie about since there's hardly any way to use it "wrong".

Their last report however was a very clearcut "this is where we stand" which I applaud them for, didn't expect them(or any company that has to show a decline) to do that.