Only post here if you have something to say.

Trollers and flamers will get reported.

So why do YOU consider Darkfall to be a sandbox type of game?

No zones

No instances

No levels

No classes

No limit to what you can fight

No limit to what you can craft

No limit to where you can go. 

Think that pretty much covers it. 

 It is a sanbox simply because you, as a player, can do pretty much whatever you want to do, with the tools provided by the devs.

You want to be PVP killer, fine

You want to be master Crafter, fine

You want to slay monsters, fine

You want to own cities, fine

You want to be pirate Joe, fine

You want to explore, fine

You want to be a scammer of thief, fine

You want to be a retard, fine

You want to just do a bit of this and that, fine

So I must say, if you think this is not a sandbox, perhaps it is a matter of your own, unusual, definition of the word, because for all intents and purposes, the core of this game is nothing but one.

Interesting replies so far.

Keep 'em coming.

If you have enough content to play for two months without leaving the starter city, i would say its a sandbox.

Same as SWG.

Why do YOU consider Darkfall to be sandbox? I don't.

Originally posted by ryman

Why do YOU consider Darkfall to be sandbox? I don't.

Do you care to elaborate?

Because you can do anything you want, if all you want is fighting.

Originally posted by altairzq

Because you can do anything you want, if all you want is fighting.

Isnt this a bit "shortminded" for this thread? You know there is more to do then combat. You know many play just to be a crafter, trade, explorer or guild leader.

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by altairzq

Because you can do anything you want, if all you want is fighting.

 

Isnt this a bit "shortminded" for this thread? You know there is more to do then combat. You know many play just to be a crafter, trade, explorer or guild leader.

Wow amazing... that's really sandbox.

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by altairzq

Because you can do anything you want, if all you want is fighting.

 

Isnt this a bit "shortminded" for this thread? You know there is more to do then combat. You know many play just to be a crafter, trade, explorer or guild leader.

 

Wow amazing... that's really sandbox.

Yep!

Originally posted by robertb

 It is a sanbox simply because you, as a player, can do pretty much whatever you want to do, with the tools provided by the devs.

 

You want to be PVP killer, fine

You want to be master Crafter, fine

You want to slay monsters, fine

You want to own cities, fine

You want to be pirate Joe, fine

You want to explore, fine

You want to be a scammer of thief, fine

You want to be a retard, fine

You want to just do a bit of this and that, fine

 

So I must say, if you think this is not a sandbox, perhaps it is a matter of your own, unusual, definition of the word, because for all intents and purposes, the core of this game is nothing but one.

You can do everything you can do in Darkfall in every game with PvP I've ever played. With the exception of bulding cities you can do all those things in WoW. So are all those games sandboxes too? The answer is yes. A  sandbox is a nonlinear game and all MMOs are.  Mixing and matching features defines a particular game it does not define a genre.
 

Originally posted by robertb

 It is a sanbox simply because you, as a player, can do pretty much whatever you want to do, with the tools provided by the devs.

 

You want to be PVP killer, fine

You can do that in WoW too.

You want to be master Crafter, fine

You can do that in WoW too and there is better crafting than in this "sandbox"

You want to slay monsters, fine

Even the worst MMORPG will let you hit monster.

You want to own cities, fine

One point!

You want to be pirate Joe, fine

Wtf?

You want to explore, fine

You can do that in WoW too.

You want to be a scammer of thief, fine

You can do that in WoW too though you wont live long with it and beign on every ignore list isn't good idea.

You want to be a retard, fine

Included in Darkfall launch buttom!

You want to just do a bit of this and that, fine

Yeah sure you can do that in WoW too.

 

So I must say, if you think this is not a sandbox, perhaps it is a matter of your own, unusual, definition of the word, because for all intents and purposes, the core of this game is nothing but one.

From what i see WoW gives pretty much same options like this "sandbox" and WoW is called themepark.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by robertb

 It is a sanbox simply because you, as a player, can do pretty much whatever you want to do, with the tools provided by the devs.

 

You want to be PVP killer, fine

You want to be master Crafter, fine

You want to slay monsters, fine

You want to own cities, fine

You want to be pirate Joe, fine

You want to explore, fine

You want to be a scammer of thief, fine

You want to be a retard, fine

You want to just do a bit of this and that, fine

 

So I must say, if you think this is not a sandbox, perhaps it is a matter of your own, unusual, definition of the word, because for all intents and purposes, the core of this game is nothing but one.

 

You can do everything you can do in Darkfall in every game with PvP I've ever played. With the exception of bulding cities you can do all those things in WoW. So are all those games sandboxes too? The answer is yes. A  sandbox is a nonlinear game and all MMOs are.  Mixing and matching features defines a particular game it does not define a genre.
 

If such is your definition of a sandbox game, then I suppose so.

My problem with using such an expanded definition is that it tends to dilute the word to the point of irrelevancy, but to each his own, I guess. 

Originally posted by Naranar

Originally posted by robertb

 It is a sanbox simply because you, as a player, can do pretty much whatever you want to do, with the tools provided by the devs.

 

You want to be PVP killer, fine

You can do that in WoW too.

You want to be master Crafter, fine

You can do that in WoW too and there is better crafting than in this "sandbox"

You want to slay monsters, fine

Even the worst MMORPG will let you hit monster.

You want to own cities, fine

One point!

You want to be pirate Joe, fine

Wtf?

You want to explore, fine

You can do that in WoW too.

You want to be a scammer of thief, fine

You can do that in WoW too though you wont live long with it and beign on every ignore list isn't good idea.

You want to be a retard, fine

Included in Darkfall launch buttom!

You want to just do a bit of this and that, fine

Yeah sure you can do that in WoW too.

 

So I must say, if you think this is not a sandbox, perhaps it is a matter of your own, unusual, definition of the word, because for all intents and purposes, the core of this game is nothing but one.

From what i see WoW gives pretty much same options like this "sandbox" and WoW is called themepark.

 

I can't read your text. 

Originally posted by robertb 

 

I can't read your text. 

I can read it just fine what is wrong with it?

I don't conside DF to be a complete sandbox.

1. You cannot live life as a trade with a store front.

2. You cannot be a wandering traveler who lives off of the land.

3. Combat is TOO much a primary focus.

WoW is not sandbox, DF is not Sandbox, hell, even AC is not sandbox (hunting is too much of a primary focus there as well, although once you've hunted enough, you could effectively live as a trader)

DF is an RTS from a first person perspective.

 Sandbox- A game with nonlinear gameplay presents players with challenges that can be completed in a number of different sequences. Whereas a more linear game will confront a player with a fixed sequence of challenges, a less linear game will allow greater player freedom

Edit: Darkfall is non-linear because the mobs can kill you wherever you go.. 

Originally posted by Naranar

Originally posted by robertb 

 

I can't read your text. 

 

I can read it just fine what is wrong with it?

The color doesn't show up well, at all, on my monitor.

Originally posted by Random_mage

I don't conside DF to be a complete sandbox.

1. You cannot live life as a trade with a store front.

Yes you can. You just have to improvise on the store front part.

2. You cannot be a wandering traveler who lives off of the land.

Umm, of course you can. Why couldn't you?

3. Combat is TOO much a primary focus.

Well it is a FFA PVP game, so I suppose this is unavoidable, unless everyone decided to not simply kill each other at every opportunity, which, though very unlikely, could happen and would not really effect the overall game.

 WoW is not sandbox, DF is not Sandbox, hell, even AC is not sandbox (hunting is too much of a primary focus there as well, although once you've hunted enough, you could effectively live as a trader)

 DF is an RTS from a first person perspective.

 I am confused by your definition of a sandbox, I suppose.

Originally posted by robertb

Originally posted by Naranar

Originally posted by robertb 

 

I can't read your text. 

 

I can read it just fine what is wrong with it?

 

The color doesn't show up well, at all, on my monitor.

No idea then on my another computer it looks same as here try restarting your browser or computer.