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4/15/09 12:59:02 PM#61
Originally posted by SaintViktor I hope the spamming in the new Battlenet is better than the spam I experienced in the D2 Battlenet
D2 battlenet was a glorified chat room, with players and auction spam |
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Originally posted by Harabeck
diablo is less boring than mmo in my opinion. as somebody said previously, mmos and diablo are all about lvls and items. diablo has just faster pace. faster grind, faster pvp and thats great to me, as i am spending less time on gamimg each year (as most people) if you think mmo is less boring because they have so called "quests", you are just tricking yourself, because quests are grind too. wow players know the best, cuz quests there are most lame. Playing: Rohan |
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4/15/09 1:05:09 PM#63
Originally posted by ronan32
Idk about a pile of crap, but its fun for awhile. Just like all hack and slash games. I dont get wht its so hyped either. By no means will it have any noticable long term effects on MMO's Elder scrolls online: Voice your concerns here :http://www.zenimax.com/contact.php |
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4/15/09 1:06:57 PM#64
Originally posted by Nadia I hope the spamming in the new Battlenet is better than the spam I experienced in the D2 Battlenet
D2 battlenet was a glorified chat room, with players and auction spam
I'm sure there will be a ton of improvements. They even have the new Battlenet mobile authenticator up and going. It's going to be a ton of fun when Diablo 3 gets here. ;) |
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4/15/09 1:13:15 PM#65
We all know that WoW will be forced to condense down to 1 server total because of the dent D3 will make on its playerbase.
That's just common knowledge, OP. |
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4/15/09 1:17:37 PM#66
One of the most epic cutscenes in gaming. Is there an mmo that even has an epic story and epic cutscenes ? Tyrael just pwns all ;) or this....
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4/15/09 1:20:07 PM#67
d2 was epic baal runs then se whoever can pick up the loot fastest or laugh like hell to whoever has hacks and takes the loot it beats any mmo in fun at least but then again cant except much from people who think eq was the best lolz overaged losers 
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4/15/09 1:30:03 PM#68
Originally posted by zaxxon23 D3 is classed as a single RPG game with multi player features,that's what it is.If you think otherwise then you are the dumb one.
I don't think otherwise, I know otherwise. Most people will play D3 online through battlenet with more other people to play with than the vast majority of mmos will ever dream of having. This is a fact. When D2 was in its prime, EQ and mmos in general were extremely niche. For every one person that played a mmo, there were fiifty or more people that played D2. There's even a good argument to be made that one of the highest contributing factors to the growth of mmos is the demise of D2. If they were able to prevent the duping and botting, there's a lot of games that wouldn't have had a quarter the subscriber base they have/had.
Diablo 3 *can* be played single player, and some people will do so. But the vast majority will play on battlenet and put more time into the game than any of these other below average mmos that currently fill the mmo market. Will it kill mmos? Of course not. That is truly a relatively stupid question. But the more accurate question is what kind of an impact will D3 have on mmo subscriptions. I'd recommend you watch, because you might be surprised at what you see. This forum is hardly a representation of the mmo community, representing a tiny sliver of the population, of which that sliver is primarily hardcore mmo gamers in general. The real population might very well be ready to ditch their substandard mmos for a game that is a blast, very casual friendly, and provides much more in the way of persistent character advancement and customization than many mmos. You completely underestimate the power of phat lootz, and the Diablo series is the master of addicting people to phat lootz.
On the whole, it seems to me that you really don't know what you're talking about. So do yourself a favor and quit the ignorant flaming. Nothing makes a person look more retarded than making a flame and being incorrect.
Right ,D3 is a single player RPG with mutiplayer features,that's what the game is. Who said anything about this forum being a representation of the mmorpg cummunity. The fact remains that D3 will not be the doom of mmorpg or even effect it in any way shape or form. You are just repeating what i have already said, D3 is a single player RPG with mutiplayer features. Who mentioned fat loot? Again you are making things up as you go along. Nothing makes a person look more retarded than when they have to add they're own little lines into an debate that were not even mentioned in the first place. ILL state it again ,just the two things that i have been talking about,... No mmorpg will not die .. D3 is a single player RPG with multiplayer features.
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4/15/09 1:39:35 PM#69
Originally posted by warpp D3 is classed as a single RPG game with multi player features,that's what it is.If you think otherwise then you are the dumb one.
I don't think otherwise, I know otherwise. Most people will play D3 online through battlenet with more other people to play with than the vast majority of mmos will ever dream of having. This is a fact. When D2 was in its prime, EQ and mmos in general were extremely niche. For every one person that played a mmo, there were fiifty or more people that played D2. There's even a good argument to be made that one of the highest contributing factors to the growth of mmos is the demise of D2. If they were able to prevent the duping and botting, there's a lot of games that wouldn't have had a quarter the subscriber base they have/had.
Diablo 3 *can* be played single player, and some people will do so. But the vast majority will play on battlenet and put more time into the game than any of these other below average mmos that currently fill the mmo market. Will it kill mmos? Of course not. That is truly a relatively stupid question. But the more accurate question is what kind of an impact will D3 have on mmo subscriptions. I'd recommend you watch, because you might be surprised at what you see. This forum is hardly a representation of the mmo community, representing a tiny sliver of the population, of which that sliver is primarily hardcore mmo gamers in general. The real population might very well be ready to ditch their substandard mmos for a game that is a blast, very casual friendly, and provides much more in the way of persistent character advancement and customization than many mmos. You completely underestimate the power of phat lootz, and the Diablo series is the master of addicting people to phat lootz.
On the whole, it seems to me that you really don't know what you're talking about. So do yourself a favor and quit the ignorant flaming. Nothing makes a person look more retarded than making a flame and being incorrect.
Right ,D3 is a single player RPG with mutiplayer features,that's what the game is. Who said anything about this forum being a representation of the mmorpg cummunity. The fact remains that D3 will not be the doom of mmorpg or even effect it in any way shape or form. You are just repeating what i have already said, D3 is a single player RPG with mutiplayer features. Who mentioned fat loot? Again you are making things up as you go along. Nothing makes a person look more retarded than when they have to add they're own little lines into an debate that were not even mentioned in the first place. ILL state it again ,just the two things that i have been talking about,... No mmorpg will not die .. D3 is a single player RPG with multiplayer features.
Diablo is both a single and multiplayer game and yes you are correct in saying the mmos will not die but D3 will sure make a big dent in the mmo population. There also will be several expansions for Diablo 3 :D |
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4/15/09 1:41:48 PM#70
D3 will have a huge initial impact on my avaliable time to play MMO's but I will only play in as single player experience - I dont have a multiplayer interest in the diablo series. Will be a welcome break from my MMO's for a whlie.
To err is human....to play is divine |
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4/15/09 1:53:49 PM#71
Originally posted by SaintViktor For a few months, yes. After the "fresh and new" feeling wears off people will go back to the mmo they were playing.  |
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protoroc
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4/15/09 3:37:44 PM#72
Not in the least. If anything it will be a boon to MMOs, as many of the undesirables will flock to D3. |
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Brenelael
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Pointing out the Obvious to the Oblivious since 2006 |
4/15/09 3:51:21 PM#73
A definite NO. This is like asking if Ice Cream will die because they just came out with Brownies with nuts!!! D3 will most likely be a great game just like the first two but it's not in any way a MMO so it won't even compete with MMOs really. People will play both if they are so inclined. I know I will probably buy it and play it but it won't make me quit MMOs by a long shot.
Bren
Edit: Besides... I like my Ice Cream on top of my Brownie as they enhance each others flavor. The relationship between D3 and MMOs will be similar at least for me anyways. while(horse==dead) |
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4/15/09 4:20:06 PM#74
Originally posted by SaintViktor
lol i can tell you have never played d2 online then gtfo
At times there is no point in explaining but when they realize that the term "mmo' is vastly overrated and see people leaving to come play Daiblo 3 then perhaps they will understand.
Diablo 2 was an awesome experience in it's day with so many servers to jump on it was mind boggling. I played D2 with several of my friends and we had a blast. I introduced most of them to MMOs with DAoC and some are still playing MMOs. I am quite sure that when D3 comes out many of my friends will get it and it will be their new addiction. I will be staying in MMOs but that is because I always preferred MMOs to D2 style gaming anyways. As for whether MMOs in general are "vastly overrated" it depends largely on the Player and what he/she wants from a game. Perhaps many Players that have been disappointed in MMOs will find Diablo 3 much more of what they have been searching for and that indeed is a good thing. It's about time Blizzard got out Diablo 3. The OP has enough instinct to realize that when D3 is released a whole lot of current MMO Players will go to D3, assuming Blizzard can pull off it's magic again as it usually does. Will MMOs loose some population? sure they will, perhaps more than one might think they would. Will the MMOS loose many subscriptions? Not as many as many Players that take time to enjoy D3 may not better ready to completely let go of MMOs. Having server populations drop and having subscriptions cancelled due to D3 are two different things. |
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4/15/09 4:26:18 PM#75
Originally posted by protoroc
Undesirable to who, you? If they're not breaking the rules, and they're paying their subs, they are most certainly desirable to the MMO companies. |
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4/15/09 4:28:41 PM#76
Originally posted by ronan32
agreed. |
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4/15/09 4:36:31 PM#77
Originally posted by lornphoenix For a few months, yes. After the "fresh and new" feeling wears off people will go back to the mmo they were playing.
Diablo is setup to last for years unless it is hacked. The loot drop percentages guarantee that if a non-dupe game exists that over the course of 2-3 years maybe around 5% of the population will have access to top end items. Diablo in general has far more replayability than the average mmo despite its lack of content.
What you're forgetting is that a LOT of people have been waiting for nearly a decade to get back into Diablo. MMOs are only a side interest to keep them busy in the meantime. People are "going back" to Diablo, not the other way around. That's what people here just don't get. They don't realize that a large part of the mmo population are originally Diablo players. It's time for us to go back home.
Maybe the OP's question isn't quite as stupid as people think. They just don't know the facts. This is clear by the amount of people who think that D3 will be a single player game. As I've said previously, you *can* play Diablo single player if you want to, but for all intents and purposes Diablo is an online game. A more accurate description of Diablo is an online game with a singleplayer component. |
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4/15/09 4:38:06 PM#78
Originally posted by Bluefish
Undesirable to who, you? If they're not breaking the rules, and they're paying their subs, they are most certainly desirable to the MMO companies.
Agreed. I am not going to make the judgement that Players that enjoyed D2 and similar games and then came to MMOs are "undesirables". That is like saying I am an Uber Gamer and THAT statement is a load of hogwash lol. If anything the flood of Players from games like D2 has had one major and positive benefit....it provided cash for the Developers of MMOs to continue their craft. Though some MMO Players may say that in and of itself may not have been a boon I still think it was a good thing. The real point of all this is that hopefully D3 will provide a segment of the gaming community what they have been craving and has been unable to find...entertainment that they enjoy. Cheers to them. :) |
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4/15/09 4:44:35 PM#79
Originally posted by zaxxon23
Diablo is setup to last for years unless it is hacked. The loot drop percentages guarantee that if a non-dupe game exists that over the course of 2-3 years maybe around 5% of the population will have access to top end items. Diablo in general has far more replayability than the average mmo despite its lack of content.
What you're forgetting is that a LOT of people have been waiting for nearly a decade to get back into Diablo. MMOs are only a side interest to keep them busy in the meantime. People are "going back" to Diablo, not the other way around. That's what people here just don't get. They don't realize that a large part of the mmo population are originally Diablo players. It's time for us to go back home.
Maybe the OP's question isn't quite as stupid as people think. They just don't know the facts. This is clear by the amount of people who think that D3 will be a single player game. As I've said previously, you *can* play Diablo single player if you want to, but for all intents and purposes Diablo is an online game. A more accurate description of Diablo is an online game with a singleplayer component.
Last paragraph is the real meat here. The beauty of the Diablo series is that they are both single Player AND multiPlayer games. Want just some alone time to beat the tar out of mobs? Single Player. Want to compete with others or see who you can wtfPWN? Choose your server... Even MMOs don't provide both of those options. |
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4/15/09 4:44:41 PM#80
Originally posted by ronan32
Not only do you not get the hype, you simply don't get it period. But hey, you didn't like the game, so I'll accept that and move on. |
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