Now I came to play DFO only by accident. A friend of mine had bought the game, but out of frustration handed it to me for the remaining 20 days of playing he had left. So I have played around with DFO for 3 days now, each 6-8 hours, roughly. So this is far from being an in-depth review, mind you, but generally in games, when the first 20 hours are bad, it doesnt make sense to stay for "fun in 6 months" or so. At least IMO.

First, I must say the graphics looked way better than many screenshots indicate. I had expected something much more terrible, and by and large the gameplay world looked nice; even the characters, while not thrilling, were ok. Also overall it ran very smoothly. On the other hand, for a 50 Euro game the graphics is bad, given what standard we have today. It has more the graphics quality of some F2P games, like Perfect World or the likes. That's something I am going to come back to.

I chose a human male character, it had an ok amount of character settings, the faces looked all quite similar, like all brothers and with little real difference, and I have seen more lively faces, but again, not as terrible as I had expected. After creation I could chose from 4 starter towns, but alas, there was zero indication what consequences or differences there would be, so, out of random choice, I picked a place called "Heart of Eanna". It was a typical starter town by size, but a few things have to be noted. First, the city, and so far all cities I saw, are almost entirely devoid of any NPC city life. There are usually between 3 and 7 NPCs, usually the same always, a blacksmith, an alchemist, a merchant, and thats it. They stand like statues, no voiceover, no chat boxes, just cheap lists of quests and things to buy/sell all in the same window, which is quite sterile and doesnt really give you any mood for the world. The only quest you get right away is kill Goblins and loot 4 axes. No backstory whatsoever.

Fine, the goal was easy enough to find just outside town, marked on the map. Now this was one of the oddest things I had EVER encountered. There was one abandoned house, and approximately every 90 seconds, ONE new Goblin was spawning. Now with 5-10 players running around all the time - at least - it was really difficult, since there is no way you get any right on the loot. No, its Ninja Looting for free. No matter if you did the first hit, the most damage, any bystander who is faster with the mouse can rob any loot of the mobs you killed. And they all do it. People with a tad slower mouse working like me need a LOT of patience, and it took me almost an hour to get those four axes.

The second thing you need to know is, that calling the combat "simple" is like calling El'Qaeda the bad guys: you get a left click swing. Thats it. Yes, you read correctly, thats it. You get one starter sword, no clothing, no armor, not a single skill, spell, buff, or anything. And generally it stays like it. Sure later on you can learn skills and spells, but the majority of combat is simple left click orgies, with the elegance of the combat from "Elder Scrolls: Arena" or "Ultima Underworld" or other 1990ies clickfests. Another thing is, you only have 2 ways to view with the camera: When you  have your weapon unsheathed, you are ALWAYS in first person mode, only with sheathed weapon you have a view over the shoulder. And you cant turn the camera. Not at all. Now that did not bother me so much, since its the idea of the game that ppl can sneak up on you, and you on them. For a while that is quite exciting, but the truth is, when you travel a longer time, it gets very tiresome, that you constantly stop, look around and then move on. It did not feel so much as thrilling, but only tiresome. Now the good news is, the world is vast and open, and thats a nice thing. Now the bad new is, travelling takes an eternity, and there are ZERO shortcuts. People already moaned and bitched about VG's long travel, and this is 100 times worse, with no camera to turn, and everyone can gank you every time.

My first gank happened, when I had a quest to gather 5 pieces of stone or ore, and I was hacking on some stone, when some folks ran over the hill and I was just ganked. Now when you think WAR or AoC or Planetside or any game prepared you for PVP, you are DEAD wrong. First, with the details of the graphics, it is very hard to say wether the approaching folks is friend or foe, until they are really close. An Alfar in a platemail looks just like a human in a platemail, so the only way is: mouseover the player. Every single of them. And to top the oddity: there was one guild attacking, some "VandalS", some of them were blue (= not to be attacked) some were grey and others red. So of the same group of attackers for some reasons I failed to understand some are enemies, some are not. The result is a great level of confusion, because while it is relatively easy to discern friend from foe in WAR or WOW or whatever game you know, it is practically impossible in DFO. You know he is your enemy when he hacks into your face. To make matters even worse, there is friendly fire; you cant select anyone, you just hack and hit anyone who accidentally happens to be there. As a result I became "rogue" several times without purpose and the towers of my own starter town began to attack me.

After my 2 hours old noob char was ganked by an entire group of considerably higher leveled gamers, I found that my entire inventory was stolen. Including the pickaxe and the axe from the quest, where I was supposed to harvest ore and lumber with. So the bottom line was I even had to BUY a new pickaxe & axe just to start the quest! I was even robbed of entirely worthless stuff, which dont sell for ANY gold, like a trashy wooden shield and the first piece of ore I had mined. The noob ganking went on for another 2-3 hours, where highly equipped, strong chars ganked every single noob out there, stripping them of all their belongings. No honor among warriors, it seems. DFO is certainly only for those, who dont feel attached to their characters or identify with them in the slightest. After some channel discussion, I was also told there was no way to bind any item to you, and as a result a large part of the game world I travelled through is filled with naked people running around, because most people don't repeat the same mistake twice. Something which really takes away the fun out of the world, I must say, when everyone besides the high end gamers run around naked.

Another gripe I must say, is the fact that the quests are VERY few and even more simple minded than anything from even the most dull F2P Asia grinders. 95% of the world is entirely free of mobs, and every city has 1 tiny mob-hub, where 1 mob spawns every ~90 seconds. First city was Goblins, second city was Kobolds asf. Unlike most other MMOs, you raise your skills by working. Like in Oblivion. It has something satisfying, thats sure, but like it was a weakness in Oblivion and Morrowind in the long run, its a weakness in DFO, because essentially most of the time you grind the same skills over and over and over. One of the sound you will hear most of the time playing is the "bashing" sound of mages casting their beginner spells in endless series, to raise their skills. Likely macroing. Things in DFO take time, but its really a re-birth of the UO/EQ era's downtime. When you are low of health, you rest. You sit, 5 minutes or more, every time. For me that was one of the defining elements of DFO: waiting and doing nothing. Be it the long rest times, the dull travelling, the endless waiting for the few respawns, a big part of the time in DFO will just be spent waiting or doing other things of an highly unexciting nature.

And the game really plays with human's worst instincts. Like when I got the quest, kill 7 Goblins in 1 hour. Peace of cake, or so I thought. But in reality, when there is just one tiny spawn camp with about 10 times as many players as goblins, it gets tough. And on top I realized, even if you make the first hit, it helps you nothing. Not only that everyone can loot, no apparently only the person doing the last hit gets the count. Include the risk for friendly fire and long waiting for the next Goblin to spawn, and you get a highly annoying afternoon, which has ZERO to do with difficulty or toughness or what, but essentially is the most childish and immature gameplay I have seen in 25 years of gaming. It makes Pac-Man intelligent game design!

I really tried not to be too harsh, but there is just too little game. The only exciting thing is the PVP combat, but with the long grind to be skilled enough, with totally free loot and the simplistic left-click-only attacks, I cant imagine that it keeps anyone in the game except the most bored people on this planet. All the small things are not done better, either. There is no Auction House and no trade channel, so the chat channel is SPAMMED with WTB and WTS calls. While you get your questions answered by the other players, there is a strong mentality to jump on anyone who even has the slightest critic. After a while I got that spooky feeling like being in a sect rather than a MMO. The talk about all "how tough we are" trash, reminded me sadly on the PotBS "no crying in the red circle" stuff. Sure, there are always the 1% diehard gankers who enjoy what they do, but the bottom line is, that for the vast, vast majority it will be quite frustrating after a very brief period of time. It is somehow sad, since DFO has otherwise some qualities, had the game some less punishing PVP and some more PVE to enjoy the way improve your skills. It is kinda remarkable how little game there is, and I wonder what Aventurine spent all those many years on.

Now if DFO where a F2P game, I guess it would have it's target audience, but with the steep price to buy the game and the monthly fee I guess most will, in the long run, draw the conclusion that the entertainment just isnt enough for the money, and DFO will likely follow the way of TR and PotBS to near and real oblivion. The potential is really there, but the game just doesnt contain enough entertainment to be worth the money, and the frustration and boredom level will drive away all but the most thick skinned people.  Mostly I didnt find the game too harsh or difficult, just boring with little stuff to do at all.

Rating: 3/10

in before:

carebear...go back to wow...this game is not for you...gtfo....why you making a goodbye post, just leave....noone cares....you are not hardcore enough.....

Hmmmm, although your opinion is that of many who have reviewed the game there is a major difference to point out. You yourself are a professed carebear therefore not in the realm of the target audience. Whereas the other malcontents knew what the game was and wanted but just found that it fell well short. I hate to say your post is wasted however well thought out and written but it makes no sense as to why you would post it.

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Hmmmm, although your opinion is that of many who have reviewed the game there is a major difference to point out. You yourself are a professed carebear therefore not in the realm of the target audience. Whereas the other malcontents knew what the game was and wanted but just found that it fell well short. I hate to say your post is wasted however well thought out and written but it makes no sense as to why you would post it.

Lol, I thought so myself... but hear me out! Now there are some who love the game. That is fine. And there are some who wanted it and are disappointed. But I am sure there is still a (silent) number of people who are unsure. They are maybe normal players like I consider myself, and maybe out of boredom would think to try it, so I wrote for them something from a casual/carebear/normal MMO gamers perspective, trying just to describe what I experience and how DFO is compared to 95% of the standard MMOs.

And ultimately, I had to purge myself of the experience, and the only way I could to that was writing about it.

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Hmmmm, although your opinion is that of many who have reviewed the game there is a major difference to point out. You yourself are a professed carebear therefore not in the realm of the target audience. Whereas the other malcontents knew what the game was and wanted but just found that it fell well short. I hate to say your post is wasted however well thought out and written but it makes no sense as to why you would post it.

 

Lol, I thought so myself... but hear me out! Now there are some who love the game. That is fine. And there are some who wanted it and are disappointed. But I am sure there is still a (silent) number of people who are unsure. They are maybe normal players like I consider myself, and maybe out of boredom would think to try it, so I wrote for them something from a casual/carebear/normal MMO gamers perspective, trying just to describe what I experience and how DFO is compared to 95% of the standard MMOs.

And ultimately, I had to purge myself of the experience, and the only way I could to that was writing about it.

I thought all was fair ..did you declared yourself "normal".

Originally posted by miagisan

in before:

carebear...go back to wow...this game is not for you...gtfo....why you making a goodbye post, just leave....noone cares....you are not hardcore enough.....

You forgot... Can I have your stuff :p

OT: The more I read about this game from the players the less likely I am to buy it. Sure I will try it but I will not buy it unless it wows me.

Insert the usual defenses here.

I figured I'd spare you the long, drawn out, pretentious banter that [us] fanbois usually reply to these reviews with. I love the game; but I can definantly see where some people would be put off.

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Hmmmm, although your opinion is that of many who have reviewed the game there is a major difference to point out. You yourself are a professed carebear therefore not in the realm of the target audience. Whereas the other malcontents knew what the game was and wanted but just found that it fell well short. I hate to say your post is wasted however well thought out and written but it makes no sense as to why you would post it.

 

Lol, I thought so myself... but hear me out! Now there are some who love the game. That is fine. And there are some who wanted it and are disappointed. But I am sure there is still a (silent) number of people who are unsure. They are maybe normal players like I consider myself, and maybe out of boredom would think to try it, so I wrote for them something from a casual/carebear/normal MMO gamers perspective, trying just to describe what I experience and how DFO is compared to 95% of the standard MMOs.

And ultimately, I had to purge myself of the experience, and the only way I could to that was writing about it.

 

I thought all was fair ..did you declared yourself "normal".

 

 

 

 

I didnt mean it in any degrading way. When someone enjoys DFO, thats fine. I meant normal as in "like the majority is used to MMOs". Call it average, the majority or what. Its no qualification to say, DFO makes things in a way almost all MMOs today  DONT do it. Not like the "norm". Like the symbols over quest giver's head have become a norm today. I dont mind when you love DFO, really. Some love to put needles into their balls or have fat women drip hot wax on their penis and enjoy that. Thats also fine with me, really. I am a tolerant person. If that makes them happy, nice. But my guess is some pecuilar things like DFO and other... stuff.. wont be fun for, well the vast number of people. *shrug*

@almeral: LOL, apparently after all the gankage, I dont HAVE any stuff anymore XD

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Hmmmm, although your opinion is that of many who have reviewed the game there is a major difference to point out. You yourself are a professed carebear therefore not in the realm of the target audience. Whereas the other malcontents knew what the game was and wanted but just found that it fell well short. I hate to say your post is wasted however well thought out and written but it makes no sense as to why you would post it.

 

Lol, I thought so myself... but hear me out! Now there are some who love the game. That is fine. And there are some who wanted it and are disappointed. But I am sure there is still a (silent) number of people who are unsure. They are maybe normal players like I consider myself, and maybe out of boredom would think to try it, so I wrote for them something from a casual/carebear/normal MMO gamers perspective, trying just to describe what I experience and how DFO is compared to 95% of the standard MMOs.

And ultimately, I had to purge myself of the experience, and the only way I could to that was writing about it.

 

I thought all was fair ..did you declared yourself "normal".

 

 

 

 

 

I didnt mean it in any degrading way. When someone enjoys DFO, thats fine. I meant normal as in "like the majority is used to MMOs". Call it average, the majority or what. Its no qualification to say, DFO makes things in a way almost all MMOs today  DONT do it. Not like the "norm". Like the symbols over quest giver's head have become a norm today. I dont mind when you love DFO, really. Some love to put needles into their balls or have fat women drip hot wax on their penis and enjoy that. Thats also fine with me, really. I am a tolerant person. If that makes them happy, nice. But my guess is some pecuilar things like DFO and other... stuff.. wont be fun for, well the vast number of people. *shrug*

 

@almeral: LOL, apparently after all the gankage, I dont HAVE any stuff anymore XD

Hey,  i also dont meant in a degrading way.

You thought you would write up a review for all the avarage people warning them that there are no signs over quest givers head, also no information if you no hover over someone, also no tab target etc. this avarage people who tolerate someone who love to put needles into their balls or have fat woman drip hot wax on their penis and enjoy that.

Well i am glad i am not average person and dont tolerate that weird stuff .

 3 out of 10 is too kind in my opinion. This game is nothing like advertised on AV website. Only the most ardent fool would cling to this in some hope to relive UO glory days or hope it the next big thing or even intelligent PvP. Though I suspect most of the people hoping for UO have left and now were left with bottom feeding types. 

Its not a sandbox, its not complex, its not immersive, its not got good customer support, its not got a secure client, its not got meaningful crafting, its not got logistics, its not got an economy, its doesn't even have a basic framework on which to hand anything. It so poor they do not even have NPC's or otherwise. AV don't even have a TEST server so your all being experimented on bycause they failed to produce anything in like 8 years !?

/sheesh .. how low are we willing to go ?

PS.. Update yer website AV .. go on !

I enjoyed the rev iew Elk, but I certainly would have predicted this game wasn't your style.

I'm not sure its really for me either.  I like some PVP, but I'm not sure I'm up for the punishment DF inflicts on its players.

No doubt, there's folks who enjoy it, but more and more I'm thinking this really isn't for me.

I prefer a playerbase that would kill another only because its a challenge, or there's an in-game reason like a clan war, not simply because they can. All games have gankers, I suspect DF has a higher percentage of them.

Originally posted by tombear81

 3 out of 10 is too kind in my opinion. This game is nothing like advertised on AV website. Only the most ardent fool would cling to this in some hope to relive UO glory days or hope it the next big thing or even intelligent PvP. Though I suspect most of the people hoping for UO have left and now were left with bottom feeding types. 

Its not a sandbox, its not complex, its not immersive, its not got good customer support, its not got a secure client, its not got meaningful crafting, its not got logistics, its not got an economy, its doesn't even have a basic framework on which to hand anything. It so poor they do not even have NPC's or otherwise. AV don't even have a TEST server so your all being experimented on bycause they failed to produce anything in like 8 years !?

/sheesh .. how low are we willing to go ?

 

PS.. Update yer website AV .. go on !

well said. it's called they marketed the game as one thing when it was something entirely different aka false advertisement(they did this because otherwise they would have had nobody buy the game in the first place).

Originally posted by whatamidoing

Originally posted by tombear81

 3 out of 10 is too kind in my opinion. This game is nothing like advertised on AV website. Only the most ardent fool would cling to this in some hope to relive UO glory days or hope it the next big thing or even intelligent PvP. Though I suspect most of the people hoping for UO have left and now were left with bottom feeding types. 

Its not a sandbox, its not complex, its not immersive, its not got good customer support, its not got a secure client, its not got meaningful crafting, its not got logistics, its not got an economy, its doesn't even have a basic framework on which to hand anything. It so poor they do not even have NPC's or otherwise. AV don't even have a TEST server so your all being experimented on bycause they failed to produce anything in like 8 years !?

/sheesh .. how low are we willing to go ?

 

PS.. Update yer website AV .. go on !

 

well said. it's called they marketed the game as one thing when it was something entirely different aka false advertisement(they did this because otherwise they would have had nobody buy the game in the first place).

Well, I can imagine, if they allow to bind equipment or so you dont have to start naked every time and some more mobs I can imagine this a cool F2P additional game. Really. But as it is its just painful to play.

wait, this game was planned for 8 years? Are you serious?

Originally posted by Nevulus

wait, this game was planned for 8 years? Are you serious?

Well not exactly, its more complicated then that.

Claus Grovdal (the creator of Darkfall) started planning Darkfall in Norway in 1995 whilst playing MMO's.

In 2000 he formed a company called Razorwax with 4 of his friends and started development on Darkfall full time.

In 2003 after their first investor pulled the plug they started a new company called Aventurine with some new investors and moved to Greece, but instead they claimed they had "found" a publisher for Darkfall.

They failed to meet their first beta and release within 2003 commitment.

And they failed to meet every other beta and release "coming soon" commitments for the next 6 years.

Razorwax went bankrupt in 2006.

So the game has been in various stages of planning and development for 14 years now, 5 years in the planning stage , 9 years full time development.

Originally posted by miagisan

in before:

carebear...go back to wow...this game is not for you...gtfo....why you making a goodbye post, just leave....noone cares....you are not hardcore enough.....

I always love the pvp crew spewing the go back to wow, you're not hardcore enough crap.  yup, go back to wow where the "hardcore" crew just left for this crap game, where the only hardcore they got was the pain in the wrist they got from female gnome animations.  always love that. /grin

It was a well written review. But i get that sick feeling in my guts when i read it. Now you Elikal have a laid back name on yourtopic, but i still feel its so out of place.

Let me put it this way. What if a DF player would try WoW? And write a review. It would also be very out of place. With this i dont mean anything bad. just out of place.

Try and play DF for its own thing. Not as WoW. hater will try and make fun of this. As a game cant be different from WoW, or something. Get friends, join a clan. DF is no solo, quest MMO.

Or better, i have a human i Heart of Eanna. Lets team up : )

You must see the dragon!

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

 

 

I didnt mean it in any degrading way. When someone enjoys DFO, thats fine. I meant normal as in "like the majority is used to MMOs". Call it average, the majority or what. Its no qualification to say, DFO makes things in a way almost all MMOs today  DONT do it. Not like the "norm". Like the symbols over quest giver's head have become a norm today. I dont mind when you love DFO, really. Some love to put needles into their balls or have fat women drip hot wax on their penis and enjoy that. Thats also fine with me, really. I am a tolerant person. If that makes them happy, nice. But my guess is some pecuilar things like DFO and other... stuff.. wont be fun for, well the vast number of people. *shrug*

 

@almeral: LOL, apparently after all the gankage, I dont HAVE any stuff anymore XD

 

Hey,  i also dont meant in a degrading way.

You thought you would write up a review for all the avarage people warning them that there are no signs over quest givers head, also no information if you no hover over someone, also no tab target etc. this avarage people who tolerate someone who love to put needles into their balls or have fat woman drip hot wax on their penis and enjoy that.

 

Well i am glad i am not average person and dont tolerate that weird stuff .

 

I see your talents of willfully spinning someone's words completely out of context are still as sharp as ever.

He clearly did not categorize people who enjoy having their balls pricked or being waxed by fat women as "average". His point was - some "fringe" people do enjoy that, and that's fine with him. The average person doesn't. Similarly, a certain "fringe" (read: niche) group of people would find the way AV has designed DF to be enjoyable, but the average person wouldn't. Which, really, isn't a negative or positive perspective. It's pretty neutral, really.

But, leave it to you to (deliberately, no doubt) take it completely out of context and misquote him.

Definitive DF fan tactics at their best.

I suppose you'll want me IP banned for saying that, now?

Originally posted by daarco

It was a well written review. But i get that sick feeling in my guts when i read it. Now you Elikal have a laid back name on yourtopic, but i still feel its so out of place.

Let me put it this way. What if a DF player would try WoW? And write a review. It would also be very out of place. With this i dont mean anything bad. just out of place.

Try and play DF for its own thing. Not as WoW. hater will try and make fun of this. As a game cant be different from WoW, or something. Get friends, join a clan. DF is no solo, quest MMO.

Or better, i have a human i Heart of Eanna. Lets team up : )

You must see the dragon!

Ugh.

Does anyone else support me in implementing a moratorium on WoW references when discussing DF? This way, the fans will have to come up with a new way to defend it, other than connecting anyone with a negative opinion of it to WoW, even if the connection has no basis - such as the OP of this thread.

In other words: 

Question: Where does the OP say, anywhere, that he was trying to play it like WoW?
Answer: Nowhere. You pulled it out of thin air, as usual.

There *are* other reasons out there someone could criticize DF other than "being a WoW player" or "expecting it to be like WoW". The OP has been around here for a bit, so I'm pretty sure he went into DF not expecting it to be like that.

 Good review and I laughed reading it (and as you can see by the nametag I play Darkfall) 

Out of curiosity what do you think about Sfraden's latest mmorpg Blog here: 

www.mmorpg.com/blogs/sfraden/122008/3639_Darkfall-Tips-for-new-players-Cheaters-and-playing-in-the-sandbox

Just curious

And yes, you are a carebear.....probably would enjoy something like Lord of the Rings Online. Its a good game I heard, but not for me....if I was to review that it would be perhaps similar to how you would review Darkfall.

As an example the graphics, you say not up to date, I say good for PVP (low poly count means high number of frames per second - I dont die from video lag as often). Kill stealing is a way to simply create strife among players, kill someone if he's looting your stuff....but seems most dont understand this and come to complain on the forums about it, kind of boggles my mind, but just shows the difference in thinking between pvp (real pvp not aoc or war or other pve games) and "carebear" players

The game was always ment for the PVP clans of AC Darktide, UO, Shadowbane, perhaps EVE and some other "hardcore" games. I dont really see how people that are not "really" pvp oriented would buy this game, I mean theres plenty to do besides pvping but I dont see most people putting up with the punishment that you get at the beginnning to get to that point. I would love the game to be a success and everyone to play it, but its really a "hardcore" game (as much as I dont want to bring up that lame comparison). not gonna happen tho

GL anyhow

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by daarco

It was a well written review. But i get that sick feeling in my guts when i read it. Now you Elikal have a laid back name on yourtopic, but i still feel its so out of place.

Let me put it this way. What if a DF player would try WoW? And write a review. It would also be very out of place. With this i dont mean anything bad. just out of place.

Try and play DF for its own thing. Not as WoW. hater will try and make fun of this. As a game cant be different from WoW, or something. Get friends, join a clan. DF is no solo, quest MMO.

Or better, i have a human i Heart of Eanna. Lets team up : )

You must see the dragon!

Ugh.

Does anyone else support me in implementing a moratorium on WoW references when discussing DF? This way, the fans will have to come up with a new way to defend it, other than connecting anyone with a negative opinion of it to WoW, even if the connection has no basis - such as the OP of this thread.

In other words: 

Question: Where does the OP say, anywhere, that he was trying to play it like WoW?
Answer: Nowhere. You pulled it out of thin air, as usual.

There *are* other reasons out there someone could criticize DF other than "being a WoW player" or "expecting it to be like WoW". The OP has been around here for a bit, so I'm pretty sure he went into DF not expecting it to be like that.

 

My sentiments exactly.

OP, good write up in my opinion. I played it, but finally found it to be lacking in the same regards as you.

Originally posted by Einstein-DF

 Good review and I laughed reading it (and as you can see by the nametag I play Darkfall) 

 

Out of curiosity what do you think about Sfraden's latest mmorpg Blog here: 

 

www.mmorpg.com/blogs/sfraden/122008/3639_Darkfall-Tips-for-new-players-Cheaters-and-playing-in-the-sandbox

 

Just curious

 

And yes, you are a carebear.....probably would enjoy something like Lord of the Rings Online. Its a good game I heard, but not for me....if I was to review that it would be perhaps similar to how you would review Darkfall.

 

As an example the graphics, you say not up to date, I say good for PVP (low poly count means high number of frames per second - I dont die from video lag as often). Kill stealing is a way to simply create strife among players, kill someone if he's looting your stuff....but seems most dont understand this and come to complain on the forums about it, kind of boggles my mind, but just shows the difference in thinking between pvp (real pvp not aoc or war or other pve games) and "carebear" players

 

The game was always ment for the PVP clans of AC Darktide, UO, Shadowbane, perhaps EVE and some other "hardcore" games. I dont really see how people that are not "really" pvp oriented would buy this game, I mean theres plenty to do besides pvping but I dont see most people putting up with the punishment that you get at the beginnning to get to that point. I would love the game to be a success and everyone to play it, but its really a "hardcore" game (as much as I dont want to bring up that lame comparison). not gonna happen tho

 

GL anyhow

Yet the website announces that this game is for the PVE player also.  Still outdated so that makes this review a gem for you "hardcore" players. People unaware (yes there are people who are unaware) of the game thinking this might be a pve heaven expereince  will learn from this review it is not.

That means less players who dont know crap of the game will be competeing to get into the game. It also means less whiners. On top of that those hardcore who join the game will less likely leave if this is their cup of tea.

A review like this helps weed the common from the hardcore. You should look at it in that view  even if he gave it a low score. That said low score is how carebears will view the pve of this game. Just like eves pathetic pve (save the sleepers those are god damn assholes)

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I read most of your review..

Although you are wrong on a few accounts: You do get spells from the start.  That's all I wanted to add..

But.. best of luck to you in your next game.. Could you write a review about it?  But.. play it a bit more so the reveiw is more accurate.  thanks.

Originally posted by Random_mage

I read most of your review..

Although you are wrong on a few accounts: You do get 2 completely useless spells from the start.  That's all I wanted to add..

Fixed for you.

This review is not a carebear review, it's a valid review for anyone who enjoyed UO and expected DFO to be as rich in features, and a bit more than a glorified counterstrike in an empty dead world.

@Elikal, your comment about Ultima underworld, please remember the combat system allowed for directional swing, AND charging of those swings, so, its was really more advanced than Darkfall's =) I bet most of the current darkfall fans have no clue what Ultima Underworld is, with out having to Google it, as they were most likely not born yet when it came out. Fantastic game. I need to find an EMU for it.