Originally posted by dsebutchr

^{I think they should shut it down immediately.}
This is not Warhammer.  This is a bunny fluffy-eared version created by Mythic.

I love Warhammer.  It's fiction is gritty, adult and doesn't hold back.  There are good descriptions of fights that have equal amounts of action and gore in a setting that justifies pushing the limits.  Mythic has none of the above.

This game pulled on the heartstrings of those who love the world Games Workshop created and then utterly failed to deliver.

Shut it down and do it right or don't bother.

I'm just hoping beyond hope that THQ does a better job on 40k.  They screw that up and they'll go down in imfamy like SOE because of SWG.

I don't agree with shutting the game down but yes I definately agree that this is NOT how I envisioned Warhammer, I also expected to see a much more grittier game world, however after the initial disappointment I'm enjoying a fun game.

The 40k game intrigues me but I doubt that too will be able to live up to the Table top version, very few conversions if any can live up to the original and long time fans will only be disappointed when (if) the game goes live.

I can remember when SWG went live, I had some friends who where die hard fans of the films, yet after a few days playing the game they left saying it was nothing like what they thought it would be, we all build up our own ideas of how the game should be, invaribly the game never lives up to those high expectations.

Wait, close the game down? What? Aren't there like 25+ servers and some 250-300K people or so playing it? If people are on the servers playing, why are we shutting down games people enjoy? Regardless of how many people enjoy it, seems like a psychotic attitude.

From reading the whole read, I mostly got this out for why: There is a slight delay in the responsiveness, therefore I hate this game and the world, please bend the world around me and my feelings or I will... I willl.... WRITE A PETITION!

Please, gamers have a hard enough time as it is, don't make us look any worse.

Originally posted by Cereo

 Aren't there like 25+ servers and some 250-300K people or so playing it?

At this point we have no idea actually. All we know is it was 300k+ at the end of december.

As for servers. I do see more and more requests to do at least one more round of transfers, I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen, people really want servers to be high/full for this game mostly (ok maybe not too full :p)

Take Ironfirst for example: 

Petition to Mythic: Merge or Move us (04-08-09)

I have, for a long time; been an Ironfist patriot. I've been here since the beginning, and poured blood sweat and tears into this server and my faction. I've posted my butt off on many ways to save this server from self implosion; and many people called me a naysayer or nieve. Not at all true, I was trying to save Ironfist.

However my opinion has wavered; and I believe it is time for Ironfist to stand up as a whole and say "Mythic, we won't take second-rate population any longer". We pay as much as every other subscriber on more active servers; so allow us the opportunity to move, or be merged.

The ultimate solution for us would be to merge with another server with the same problem we have. Engage in server "clusters" similar to like DAOC had, and we can see more action at all hours.

Ironfist is fine during prime time, however any hour outside of that it is a complete wasteland where we're forced to duel to get any fun out of the game.

I'm as close to unsubbing as I ever have. I don't bring this up with ease either, it is with long thought and determination that I wish to save Ironfist and keep playing with the people I have since i started my journey into Warhammer Online.

It is up to you, Mythic; how you want to handle this. But we emplore you to make a decision as to our population problem.

Players of Ironfist; please reply to this thread and let Mythic know that we want change, and for the better.

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Originally posted by Cereo
Wait, close the game down? What? Aren't there like 25+ servers and some 250-300K people or so playing it? If people are on the servers playing, why are we shutting down games people enjoy? Regardless of how many people enjoy it, seems like a psychotic attitude.
From reading the whole read, I mostly got this out for why: There is a slight delay in the responsiveness, therefore I hate this game and the world, please bend the world around me and my feelings or I will... I willl.... WRITE A PETITION!
Please, gamers have a hard enough time as it is, don't make us look any worse.

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On the U.S./Oceanic there are 15 servers. 7/8 of those are always, no matter what time of day Low/Low populations. If this is the case, there is no way they are at 300k anymore.

They will have to do another server merger (and there WILL be) come early summer probably. If people are still leaving now because of the gameplay and things that are just technical/balanced issues, imagine what will happen to the game in the summer when very few people stay home and play MMOs and nice nights. Some other game opens up, MMO or regular single player like Starcraft2 or something, more losses.

Again, no need for a petition. The game is imploding handily on its own.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by Cereo
Wait, close the game down? What? Aren't there like 25+ servers and some 250-300K people or so playing it? If people are on the servers playing, why are we shutting down games people enjoy? Regardless of how many people enjoy it, seems like a psychotic attitude.
From reading the whole read, I mostly got this out for why: There is a slight delay in the responsiveness, therefore I hate this game and the world, please bend the world around me and my feelings or I will... I willl.... WRITE A PETITION!
Please, gamers have a hard enough time as it is, don't make us look any worse.

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On the U.S./Oceanic there are 15 servers. 7/8 of those are always, no matter what time of day Low/Low populations. If this is the case, there is no way they are at 300k anymore.

They will have to do another server merger (and there WILL be) come early summer probably. If people are still leaving now because of the gameplay and things that are just technical/balanced issues, imagine what will happen to the game in the summer when very few people stay home and play MMOs and nice nights. Some other game opens up, MMO or regular single player like Starcraft2 or something, more losses.

 

Again, no need for a petition. The game is imploding handily on its own.

Do the 17 EU servers not exist anymore then?

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Originally posted by qbangy32

Do the 17 EU servers not exist anymore then?
 

I only speak to the servers that queue up when I log on and what I see. Since I can't see the EU ones, I have no idea what state they are in. Maybe a post from a veteran WAR player like this one can give you a better idea. It's actually quite well written from a older beta test/current player:

From another site:

"With yesterdays "King kill" on K8P and all the boasting/qq/gratz/whine/doom/I-quit threads happening on several forums atm I really can't understand why Mythic have taken a (possibly) fatal step backwards with the end-game design in WAR.

Last night at prime time K8P (Order) was like a deserted wasteland while Destro pillaged Altdorf and any hope of RvR fun/entertainment was completely gone. For an RvR orientated game where "WAR is everywhere" this is simply unacceptable.

I'm fortunate in that my guild usually has anything from 6-20 players online most nights so we ended up raiding Bastion Stair instead of our usual Sunday City Dungeons raid but I know a lot of people just logged off the game to do something else or played alt's for a while. After our dungeon raid the ONLY RvR I could find in Tier 4 was the odd destro player trying to get into Altdorf with everywhere else completely empty.

Now Order is left with a 1-star capital which iirc means no city dungeon raids (for sentinel gear) and needing to level up the city again to open the dungeon instances. With Destro being by far the more powerful side on K8P it looks likely that this will become a common occurrence. Having read various forums it looks like this could also happen on the Order dominated servers too. This, imo, is really a bad thing for the game in the long term and will no doubt have a knock-on effect in terms of subs (cash) coming in to Mythic and GOA.

Having played WAR since mid beta (for approx 6 months) and then continuously from release date I see so many things that have improved but also sadly MANY things have been left alone "un-fixed" and "under-developed". A lot of ppl agree Tier 4 is "broken" in many ways already discussed previously but the major issue I think is that the end-game is one of the biggest problems.

Like a lot of people I played (and loved) DAoC for many years and considering Mythic also designed/hosted that game I really can't understand why they seem to feel the need to reinvent the wheel. DAoC had a fully tried/tested/developed/evolved feel about it (as could be expected after 6-7 years) with none of this "sack the capital" nonsense. I posted a comment on our guild forums last week jokingly saying "Why invent a new wheel only to find its square" and I really do feel that WAR is a case of making 2 steps forward and 3 steps backwards in some respects.

Why do we need a fixed end-game? In my opinion we don't.

In an MMO surely the whole point is its a neverending war/world/experience which people WANT to carry on playing and fighting in. DAoC didnt have an end game and yet the game was loved by many thousands of people for years and still retained so much diverse gameplay with a great feeling of "realm spirit". In DAoC the closest thing to an end game was if your realm lost its relics (usually after several huge RvR battles) but even then that just meant that the realm who took them were slightly more powerful and not that it made your own realm any worse off or crippled as it does in WAR. Maybe the three different realms idea was also something special in DAoC which meant more options in RvR (2 weaker sides cooperating vs 1 more powerful enemy). Imo the step BACK to two realms was a bad idea for WAR aswell as making a "fixed" end game.

In DAoC it was never ending hence at no point did you think "ok we sacked the capital so erm... now what?". The problem that WAR has is that some ppl are now RR80 with little motivating them to continue (other than play alts) or have captured the enemy king with a feeling of "we completed WAR" but there should never EVER be a feeling of completion (success of a raid, yes, but not completion) or the future of WAR can never be sustained.

While Mythic may consider Warhammer Online a commercial success the simple fact that so many players have left the game (with many not even subscribing after their free month) and servers needing to be clustered/merged so soon indicates to me that Mythic were shortsighted in their long term goals for Warhammer. Additionally, within only 6-7 months of release players feeling they have completed all the goals set out for them just compounds the issue.

With Mythic's experience in handling DAoC for so long some of the decisions made for WAR appear very questionable.

To me the logic is simple...

* Mythic, like any other company are in it to make money.
* They make money from subscribers.
* Subscribers pay for entertainment.
* The more entertained subscribers, the more cash Mythic make.
* If subscribers stay entertained they keep paying and word spreads positively
* If subscribers aren't entertained they stop subscribing and word spreads negatively
* The successful end result is give the subscribers what they want to keep them entertained and EVERYONE is happy.

I guess the only hard thing is working out how to give as many people as possible what they want while keeping balance, content and stability. I really do like Warhammer and truly hope that there is a bright future for it as there's far more I enjoy than dislike about the game but I do think that some big changes need to happen to keep this game running (and players motivated) anywhere near as long as DAoC did.

I hope the few initial suggestions below aswell as the many that people have already posted will be read by Mythic and help in some way to secure WAR's future for a long time to come. I remember saying about DAoC "too little, too late" and I'd really hate to have to repeat that about WAR.

Suggestions for game improvements:

Motivation:

Keep people motivated and wanting to play more in oRvR. Not just by offering loot rewards as surely the better reward is just wanting to play for the fun of it. Don't we all play this game for entertainment?

Create more opportunities for skirmishes rather than the current zerg vs zerg with the bigger zerg wins. People get demoralised after being farmed by a zerg several times.

* Move the RvR away from just warcamps and keeps with more things to do in oRvR and more "safe" spots.
* Create more defendable obstacles/buildings/structures e.g. Praag would be a good if we could go INTO some of the houses/buildings/ruins.
* Add rivers, lakes and moats round keeps with defendable bridges.
* Add new mobs to oRvR lakes (maybe in uncontested zones with no bolster buff but granting additional xp) and maybe some special mobs with unique drops or crafting components.
* Make claimed BO's upgrade into defendable towers.

Basically anything that creates more gathering/hiding/ambush points and semi-safe areas. People who played DAoC will understand this quite well as yes, what i'm suggesting is more or less "New Frontiers" for WAR but in general more places you can ambush your enemy. I'd even like to see underwater action too as that added a certain amount of extra fun to DAoC oRvR.

Balance:

Even the odd's more... don't let the dominant realm always have an easier time achieving their goals. Surely the more dominant realm already has more numbers so make their objectives tougher and the weaker realm's easier therefore keeping more of an even balance.

Things such as more (tougher) guards on the weaker sides keeps and BO's (by default, not just by purchasing them as will be coming in 1.2.1 patch). For the weaker side make some things easier so they don't get the feeling of "we'll never take that with these numbers".

Make warcamp guards work properly so we dont see one side stuck in their own warcamp unable to get out. I'm all for the insta 30,000 damage we have now but make it consistent and let the guards roam a bit more to discourage warcamp camping. This should also be done in scenarios as quite a few often devolve into yet more warcamp camping within the first few minutes.

If we must keep this "sack the capital" then dont cripple the defeated realm. It only lowers morale and creates a negative atmosphere with a "why should i bother" attitude. It's great that they get Sovereign gear but why not give them a timed realm wide bonus (like DAoC yet again) rather than negative effects to the side whose king was killed. Finally there should be a lockout timer effect on this - maybe seven days before a city could be successfully "sacked" again."

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The two Oceanic servers Darklands and Ironclaw listed on my list of servers to play on are always LOW/LOW.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

The two Oceanic servers Darklands and Ironclaw listed on my list of servers to play on are always LOW/LOW.
 

I was being bash on alliance forums when i ask for server merges between oceanic servers...

For the good of the game as a whole, for now and future, if Mythic dont want (Obviously)  to close the game down for a while, than their patches, servers merges, end-game etc... better come fast and furious. Dont think these problems can wait to be fix by an x-pac... (if they are thinking about that, just if... )

I can't understand why ppl think modern MMO's will be able to entertain you for long periods of time, I'l use my sons XBox360 as an example.

He bought Halo 3 and completed the game in the first day, he played the multiplayer maps for about 2 weeks abd then grew bored with the game and has now moved onto a completely new game.

He isn't going to be playing Halo 3 in the near future becuase it's become stale for him, very much like WAR or "Insert any MMO title here".

Why do we have to keep playing an MMO when you've reached max lvl, when you've completed the RvR scenario's or killed the city boss, why stick around? I certainly do not intend to carry on subscribing to WAR once I've hit 40 and completed what I want to complete that is both new and fun, staying beyond a couple of months is a waste of money because the new content would not have caught me up, or there isn't enough of it being put into the game that is relevant.

If ppl looked at an MMO as something that is meant to be played for only a few months then perhaps ppl might feel fulfilled and happy with the experience rather than playing it for upwards of a year or more, I got caught in that trap with EQ1.

I now only play an MMO for a very short period of time, mostly a month, it doesn't cost me any more than if I was subscribing to just one MMO for years and years, because I cancel each month and then resub to a new MMO, for me I keep the experience fresh and usually I find plenty of updates have moved the game along nicely enough to provide me with another months entertainment.

I think those days of sticking with just one MMO are long gone, there are guilds out there that do support more than 1 MMO at a time, Old Timers Guild is a prime example.

no game should be shut down unless it doesnt make a profit. Why is this thread only about warhammer and not any other game?

Originally posted by tvalentine

no game should be shut down unless it doesnt make a profit. Why is this thread only about warhammer and not any other game?

I'm wondering if corporatations think there is anything less meaningful than absurd polls on gaming forums. If they want  to have at least a minimal impact they should vote with their feet. Beyond that I have to ask the OP where's the drama queenie?

WAR will be around for a long time imho.

The beta starts in Korea tomorrow ffs! does that look like a game about to close down?

PS. for the Karak Eight Peaks whine a few post up, I can only say it took us 2 days to get back to 2 stars Altdorf, no biggie. We are back and three days after the Kings defeat we were in IC and looted it good!

Originally posted by qbangy32

 

If ppl looked at an MMO as something that is meant to be played for only a few months then perhaps ppl might feel fulfilled and happy with the experience rather than playing it for upwards of a year or more, I got caught in that trap with EQ1.

 

 

This is simply a difference in mentality. What you describe is the *exact* reason I was interested in MMO's, because of the unending part of it. Ideally, (had there not been so many choices and failures I guess) I would pick one MMO and be entertained by that for the rest of my life. I would love for that to be true. (I know, MMO's are nowhere near that yet.)

Although that's putting it to the extreme that *is* the sentiment that drew me to MMO's. If I wanted games with a short lifespan I would *not* pick a MMO, since, in my opinion, you get a lot more value from non MMO games if you want short lifespan games.

Originally posted by Pheace

Originally posted by qbangy32

 

If ppl looked at an MMO as something that is meant to be played for only a few months then perhaps ppl might feel fulfilled and happy with the experience rather than playing it for upwards of a year or more, I got caught in that trap with EQ1.

 

 

 

This is simply a difference in mentality. What you describe is the *exact* reason I was interested in MMO's, because of the unending part of it. Ideally, (had there not been so many choices and failures I guess) I would pick one MMO and be entertained by that for the rest of my life. I would love for that to be true. (I know, MMO's are nowhere near that yet.)

 

Although that's putting it to the extreme that *is* the sentiment that drew me to MMO's. If I wanted games with a short lifespan I would *not* pick a MMO, since, in my opinion, you get a lot more value from non MMO games if you want short lifespan games.

It's a state of mind that enables me to keep coming back to old MMO's and finding fresh content for me to complete thus providing me plenty of value for money, something I know I will not get if I stay in an MMO where I have already completed the available content and I end up making either countless alts or completing the worst thought of idea in gaming history "Dailies".

I've played or tested about 100 MMO's, out of those 16 are worth revisiting and I do on a regular basis, currently on my quick launch bar I have Dungeon Runners (great for a hr or 2) Age of Conan/EQ2/WoW though I'l be taking that one off soon/LoTRO/AO/EQ1/CoH/V/DDO/WAR/FFXI/AC1/Wizard 101 but thats for my daughter, though I do sneak a peek now and then/DAoC/Vanguard and lastly SWG.

I pick and choose according which has recieved new content and what kind of mood I'm in, I doubt pin all my hopes on one MMO any longer, I've been playing them for far too long to know that it isn't worth it anymore, the games themselves change from one patch to the next so what you once held dear could be gone in a single update, so why should I show loyalty to just one game, why should'nt I in the interests of trying to keep my passion for MMO's alive keep mixing it up a little.

This is the only way I have found that keeps me coming back, not sticking it out come hell or high water with just 1 MMO anymore, I don't show any game any loyalty other than paying that months subs.

RPG games are fun but there is just something about an MMO that appeals to me, I mean I played EQ1 for 5 yrs as my first MMO and thoroughly enjoyed my time in that game, but EQ1 is very different to alot of the current MMO's, that major difference is the way $oE updates the game on such a regular basis with expacs, 15 and counting.

If I had been able to raid 24/7 I'd probably still be playing EQ1 but I'm a father of 3 and with a wife who detests MMO's which makes playing them for prolonged periods very difficult, so I've had to adapt my playstyle to what it is today, and it works for me and the family now.

For a long time i've been playing mmo's... and i mean long long time. UO, MU online, EQ, EQ2, Lineage2, wow for 4 years, warhammer and now trying aoc, and yet everytime i decide post i end beeing offended by some so called mature comunitys. Whatever they call me fanboy, troll or whatever. If ppl defend wow.. they are kidos with 12 years old that like cartoons and no skills and that never played other mmo before, If we talk bad about any game we are trolls...

I would love that ppl started getting some brains or looking into a mirror before calling anyone troll. Seems that every time someone fart and talk bad about any game.. they sudenly have no reason to complain and are just mindless trolls who got no clue about games.

Yet... 90% of this so called mature gentlemans, are the ones who pay every month for a crap garbage not finished product and still they defend it as if its their own family we talking about. We all know ppl got diferent tastes and preferences for games but theres one thing that is common in all world.. QUALITY. I dont need to like a game to understand if it got any quality... YES QUALITY. i dont mean types of game, concept or whatever. If game is well designed/coded or whatever you want call it. Anyone can see it.

I would also like to say that i got pitty of ppl who calls trolls to others just cause they enjoy the game the other person is bashing or whatever. I rly got a LOT of pitty of you guys.

Lets see it this way.. WE ARE PLAYERS... WE PAY TO PLAY.. and so far none of this companys offered me a new PC over this years so i could keep playing their game.. THey also dont pay my internet access, electricity, and other common needs. So lets stop defending this companys with all our energy and life, just cause you enjoy the game company provided you. You should start taking care of your own comunity.. not the freakign companys.. PLAYERS SHOULD STICK TOGETHER so they can PROFIT together from better games in the future.

About Warhammer.... whatever you guys enjoy on it..  theres only one main and major truth about this game. This guys wasted milions or whatever cash they used to make this game.. Most of it i doubt that came from any of Devs pockets if any. They made a HUGE hype about it (yes, i've folowed this game for months and months, years and whatever), podcasts, forums, etcs etcs.

I go shop, buy the game, play it 2 months just to find out this guys are dam good lyars (or whatever is written). Thats right, lying is bad.

-crafting aint inovative and fun like they said.. its complete garbage

-theres no economy

-theres no comunity (or there wasnt any when i played) and i mean... ingame

-war aint everywhere.... there might be some now in T1 cause of trialists, that just keep getting trial keys over and over

-milions of bugs, and i mean annoying bugs

-no content, RvR that was PvE 100%.. dunno now but im sure a miracle didnt happened.... ang zergs

-PvE is complete garbage... sorry but coming from a real successful guild in wow... i feel like jumping out of window laughing when ppl was claiming pve in war was amazing and fun

But... the main thing i feel ofended by Mythic. for using my money on their product.. is when i look at the poor quality in the game, stuff like the cast lag... (what fkg cast lag? theres no cast lag.. is called crap design/code whatever). its garbage 100%.. doesnt work, period. Its rly rly ridiculous that this guys released a game when the basics of an mmo imo are the smooth and a working game play. All rest can be added later... content or whatever.. Just make the basics rights.. If I spent 50 euros and one subscription to find out that this company that took years making this game... cant make a simple cast of spell, smooth and working, Im sorry but i lose my respect for this ppl.

Least you can do when you make a game.. is make sure the basics are working... You cant buy a ferrari without the tyres cause it wont move from its place. Just show the rush they add in releasing the game and taking our money out of our pockets.

Yes... i think this game should be closed, same as many others, when the minimal requirment for a game fails.. wich is basic game play. jumping, casting, meleeing, mount, swimm (LOL that one btw... i got shocked when i saw i couldnt swim under water, if we can.. in 2 months i never found out how.. tho this is subject for other discussion), but imo just show the rush and probably lack of dev quality to make this stuff working. The rolling system on items was broke aswell among other basic crap that never worked and it should be a requirment for any game to come out.

And just cause you are having fun playing, doesnt mean you aren't beeing robbed. Lets put it this way... you guys paying every month a fee for an unfinished game plus the box you had to pay (mine was nearly 50euros), so they keep fixing (developing imo) the game that should been working since day one and it isnt... and NO.. i dont mean content, that can be added later. But game just wasnt half done, finished, fixed.. not even 20% of it was ready to be launched. But still most guys still pay every month a fee to this ppl and still you defend their product like you defend your own family.

Im sorry for bad english and huge wall of text with repetitive phrases but my message is... stop calling ppl trolls just cause they come forums and talk bad about "your" game and start looking at a mirror and get the conclusion that is you and other "blinded" 200k players if many.. are paying every month, at least half of this game develpment. That should have been done previous launch. I simple refuse to do that.. I buy a product and i expect it to be working.

And its this exact subscribers that call other trolls.. that are kinda ruining the future of other mmos and the quality ppl demand in next releases. Ppl will just start making games... launch at midle of development and assure the players pay the rest.

This games, should all be shut down... theres no quality control or consumer defenses in this issue.. so start suporting each others instead of huge flame wars and same time feeding this incopentent programmers, coders or whatever they call themselfs.

see yah

im going to say this, there is ALOT worse out there, and for all of you crying about cant find war or fights or etc, BIG TIP! Go to a High Pop Server, Find a guild  or group of friends, and go kill stuff, TA DA!   T-1 thru T-4 i havent had 1 damn problem finding keeps to take or BO's to capture or just flat out fighting back and forth with Destro. Now dont get me wrong around 1-2 am, Eastern time stuff does slow down but thats expected. I just think a Petition to close WAR down is a bit much with all the crappier games around.

I completely agree with you Anthara.

But as these forums are famous for, you will now get flamed because English isn't your primary language.

Because that is all what trolls have to go for. They have nothing substantial against your post, so then it's easier for them to start flaming you for spelling mistakes.

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My biggest dissapointed with Mythic is exactly how you put it.

From a company that brought us DAoC.... WAR is a total disgrace. Especially when you know how much of bigger budget they had for WAR. How many more people have been working on WAR... compaired to DAoC. It's just shocking!

You hit the nail right on the head by saying that they didn't even got the fundamental basics right. And indeed. With that they lose all my respect.

I have given them about 6 months time to address the major issues that plagued this game, but instead they threw cheap carrot garbage patches at us and 6 months later still nothing was fixed.

I will never go back to this game. Simply, because this game will never be fixed.

Cheers

Originally posted by Nivez

im going to say this, there is ALOT worse out there, and for all of you crying about cant find war or fights or etc, BIG TIP! Go to a High Pop Server, Find a guild  or group of friends, and go kill stuff, TA DA!   T-1 thru T-4 i havent had 1 damn problem finding keeps to take or BO's to capture or just flat out fighting back and forth with Destro. Now dont get me wrong around 1-2 am, Eastern time stuff does slow down but thats expected. I just think a Petition to close WAR down is a bit much with all the crappier games around.

Sorry but im yet to find any game that had same publicity and hype about it and turned out to be totaly lies. Including 2 classes that wasnt released when they should and now they call it content adding. Same as the citys they cut off for launch and some day they call it again content adding.

About high pop servers, my friend.. i waited 2 months for server merges so this game could be playable.. and for a matter of pride they ignored the fact they had "500" low pop servers just in self denyal (dunno how is written) of a failure. Making dozens of players quiting at every minute that passed without them making anything about it... ALL FOR PRIDE AND HONOR.

So, incompetence + rush + pride and a denyal attitude + lies = huge lack of respect for all mmo comunity.

I just think is sad that some ppl are actually still paying this game developement when it should have been done by the company before release, just cause is fun.

Watching my friends playing soccer is fun too but that doesnt mean im going pay a 15 euros ticket every month to watch them play.

Originally posted by Keridwan

 

 

Let us establish exactly what people think should be done about Warhammer

 

/bump when you vote so we can get a large and representative sample :)

What a waste of e-space.

Originally posted by Anthara

Originally posted by Nivez

im going to say this, there is ALOT worse out there, and for all of you crying about cant find war or fights or etc, BIG TIP! Go to a High Pop Server, Find a guild  or group of friends, and go kill stuff, TA DA!   T-1 thru T-4 i havent had 1 damn problem finding keeps to take or BO's to capture or just flat out fighting back and forth with Destro. Now dont get me wrong around 1-2 am, Eastern time stuff does slow down but thats expected. I just think a Petition to close WAR down is a bit much with all the crappier games around.

 

Sorry but im yet to find any game that had same publicity and hype about it and turned out to be totaly lies. Including 2 classes that wasnt released when they should and now they call it content adding. Same as the citys they cut off for launch and some day they call it again content adding.

About high pop servers, my friend.. i waited 2 months for server merges so this game could be playable.. and for a matter of pride they ignored the fact they had "500" low pop servers just in self denyal (dunno how is written) of a failure. Making dozens of players quiting at every minute that passed without them making anything about it... ALL FOR PRIDE AND HONOR.

So, incompetence + rush + pride and a denyal attitude + lies = huge lack of respect for all mmo comunity.

I just think is sad that some ppl are actually still paying this game developement when it should have been done by the company before release, just cause is fun.

Watching my friends playing soccer is fun too but that doesnt mean im going pay a 15 euros ticket every month to watch them play.

I'l mention Horizons =) I still remember the devs telling us we could pick up a cow and drop it on our enemies, that alone made me buy the game, oh how disappointed I was.