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http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/players/news_archive.vm?id=68276 STAR WARS GALAXIES™ TRADING CARD GAME APRIL LOOT TOURNAMENT! - 04/08/2009 STAR WARS GALAXIES™ TRADING CARD GAME LOOT TOURNAMENT! Join your friends online for the April Loot Tournament Weekend, April 11 and April 12, 2009, in the Star Wars Galaxies™ Trading Card Game! For just ten (10) event passes, each participant will receive: · Three (3) Star Wars Galaxies™ Trading Card Game: Galactic Hunters booster packs · One (1) Droopy McCool (3P5) promotional card · One (1) Guise of the Master (3SWGP2) loot card · Plus, entry into the April Loot Tournament Weekend to compete for additional prizes! Please note that participation is limited to U.S. residents only. Void in Arizona , Connecticut , Iowa , Maryland , Nevada , Tennessee and Vermont .
So it's not gambling but void in these states?
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4/10/09 4:19:18 PM#2
hm. Currently restarting World of Warcraft :/ |
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4/10/09 4:22:36 PM#3
Originally posted by Gravez
It might be because its a contest? Like when I go to TigerDirect.com or even Newegg.com, they have these weekly/daily prizes and all of them have restrictions/void in some states. |
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4/10/09 4:25:54 PM#4
Those states have specific laws that classify the TCG as a sweepstakes and therefore gambling.
-------- "SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor |
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4/10/09 4:27:38 PM#5
TGC is gambling, plain and simple. Any one that is denying it is trying to cover SOE for some reason. Seriously, I'd love to see a large group of players "playing" the TGC. Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic |
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4/10/09 5:14:35 PM#6
I bet some non-U.S. residents get quite upset at this. 3:1 odds ;) |
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4/10/09 6:10:12 PM#7
As some of us who actually know something about the law have maintained from the beginning on these forums and elsewhere, the TCG is gambling and it is slowly being outlawed across North America. It was never going to happen quickly, but Rome wasn't built in a day. F*ck you very much SOE and Smedley - Im very happy to have done my part in bringing your bullshit scam to the attention of state and provincial lawmakers :) S |
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4/10/09 9:36:45 PM#8
Or, just maybe, anyone that doesn't agree that it is gambling is simply exercising their right to have their own opinion. Why is it that any dissent from the so-called "vets" equates to "trying to cover for SOE" around here? The groupthink around here hasn't gotten any better since most of the hardcores ran off to their own little lolforum to whine about SOE. So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist. |
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4/10/09 10:14:05 PM#9
is it me or is your opinion legally wrong in 7 states? |
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4/10/09 10:21:14 PM#10
Originally posted by PreCU
is it me or is his opinion legally ok in all but 7 states? |
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4/10/09 10:21:48 PM#11
When did they outlaw gambling in Nevada?
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4/10/09 10:27:30 PM#12
Originally posted by niceguy3978
Its no illegal if they follow Nevada Gaming laws. basically, they need to admit its gambling then they have to follow a specific odds of winning that the state inposes and pay taxes. TO get around that, the TCG is not available in that state. |
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4/10/09 10:30:46 PM#13
oh really? was his opinion put through the legal system in all those states? |
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Dracus
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4/11/09 2:27:18 AM#14
Originally posted by lugal Its no illegal if they follow Nevada Gaming laws. basically, they need to admit its gambling then they have to follow a specific odds of winning that the state inposes and pay taxes. TO get around that, the TCG is not available in that state. Well said. And that is why... Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness. |
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4/11/09 5:47:11 PM#15
Originally posted by PreCU HAHA awesome... Nuff said. Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic |
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4/11/09 8:05:14 PM#16
Originally posted by Abrahmm HAHA awesome... Nuff said.
This isn't a question of opinions. An opinion would be "I like the game because lightsabers are pretty" or "I don't like the game because SOE sucks ". This is incontravertible fact. The TCG is illegal in 7 states and more will follow. /end of S |
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4/12/09 1:58:28 PM#17
I keep reading that the TCG is illegal in 7 states, but that's not how I read it. I read it to mean that this tournament isn't legal in 7 states. I checked their website for the TCG itself and there are no disclamers that you can't play the game in those states, or won't have access to purchasing the cards in those states, only that you can't participate in this tournament. Though I don't really know why someone would want to anyway, but that's another thread. |
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4/12/09 4:04:26 PM#18
Originally posted by niceguy3978
Yeah its the tournament they are talking about, however only winning the prizes is the issue. As someone who wanted to participate in a tournament (even though i am god aweful at it) after I found that the card game was actually kinda funand as someone who does not live in an area considered "legal" (read that to mean sony doesn't want to figure how to navigate red tape for every country on the planet) I found that you are indeed allowed to participate as long as if you win you dont claim the prizes. So yeah if you just want to compete to try to beat people then you can do so you just have to sign a bunch of paper saying you forfeit the prizes (which was a pain and which I only did once cause it was a pain ). Anyhow its not the TCG they are speaking of its the competitions to win prizes they are speaking of which happen twice a month or so in this game and legends of norath as well. Not that anyone will acknowledge these "details" on this board I think you will find that that is not the goal here the goal here is to sling poo at sony and accuracy does not count only quantity lol. |
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4/12/09 6:44:37 PM#19
Originally posted by ummax
Yeah its the tournament they are talking about, however only winning the prizes is the issue. As someone who wanted to participate in a tournament (even though i am god aweful at it) after I found that the card game was actually kinda funand as someone who does not live in an area considered "legal" (read that to mean sony doesn't want to figure how to navigate red tape for every country on the planet) I found that you are indeed allowed to participate as long as if you win you dont claim the prizes. So yeah if you just want to compete to try to beat people then you can do so you just have to sign a bunch of paper saying you forfeit the prizes (which was a pain and which I only did once cause it was a pain ). Anyhow its not the TCG they are speaking of its the competitions to win prizes they are speaking of which happen twice a month or so in this game and legends of norath as well. Not that anyone will acknowledge these "details" on this board I think you will find that that is not the goal here the goal here is to sling poo at sony and accuracy does not count only quantity lol. It's the "fee based" competitions they are refering to. As in you pay a fee to participate in order to win prizes violates their sweepstakes laws. No one is failing to mention anything. |
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4/12/09 6:52:37 PM#20
What is the fee for the competition? Is it the 'event passes" that were mentioned? I don't know anything about it, that's why I'm asking. I haven't subscribed to SWG for a couple years yet I have several packs of TCG as vet rewards (which is ironic given the fact that I haven't been a vet for a while). Do you have to purchase more packs to be able to enter a tournament and that is why its fee based? or is it those 10 "event passes" whatever the heck they are? I'm not trying to get people riled up, I'm just curious about what would make it illegal in those states other than what the previous poster said about the red tape inherent in most intra-continental competitions. |
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