I was in the exact same boat you are in a month ago. I was ready to give up on MMOs for awhile and take a nice long break.

As a desperate last resort, I resubbed to DAOC to give it another look......and am having a blast again. I wish I had resubbed to it years ago, instead of wasting years of time and money on other crap games.

Oh well, better late then never. Who says that you can never go back.....

I don't think we'll see any real change in the next 5 years.

try some different genre of games or try other platforms if your bored in mmos. In my side im starting to get bored in mmos but when i try to look for other mmo to play i found out some strategic games like atlantica online and those strategic are really good games compare to hack and slashing mmos. 

Originally posted by chocob0

try some different genre of games or try other platforms if your bored in mmos. In my side im starting to get bored in mmos but when i try to look for other mmo to play i found out some strategic games like atlantica online and those strategic are really good games compare to hack and slashing mmos. 

Seriously who play ONLY MMOs?  Never heard of that.  Theres plenty of PC games to play, not even including consoles.

Originally posted by Josher

Originally posted by chocob0

try some different genre of games or try other platforms if your bored in mmos. In my side im starting to get bored in mmos but when i try to look for other mmo to play i found out some strategic games like atlantica online and those strategic are really good games compare to hack and slashing mmos. 

 

Seriously who play ONLY MMOs?  Never heard of that.  Theres plenty of PC games to play, not even including consoles.

Right!

I could never play just MMO's.  I'd go out of my frickin' mind.  There are so many different styles of PC games out it's mind boggling.  Ya just have to give them a try.

Originally posted by ObliviousX

Same thing here. I want a mmo that will keep me hooked. I am currently playing AoC, it's good but it's not something i see myself playing for years.

I wanted to go back to see what its like, but I feel as though they should let me have a free weekend on my account cuz the game was so bad before lol

I hear ya OP I hear ya, if there was a decent MMO to play these days, I bet half the users on this site would stop visiting lol.

Originally posted by Josher

Originally posted by chocob0

try some different genre of games or try other platforms if your bored in mmos. In my side im starting to get bored in mmos but when i try to look for other mmo to play i found out some strategic games like atlantica online and those strategic are really good games compare to hack and slashing mmos. 

 

Seriously who play ONLY MMOs?  Never heard of that.  Theres plenty of PC games to play, not even including consoles.

I only play multiplayer games, mainly mmos, but I also play fps games for as long as they stay fun few rounds, here and there.. and sports (madden, nba/mlb 2k) on my 360

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

...and for the life of me, I can not figure out why.

I've been playing these games since playing MUD style games back before I even owned Windows 3.1

the best games I've played were UO, AC and DAOC .....

now, I'm stuck bouncing around from let down to let down, and struggling to find something fun while games of interest get pushed back months or have release dates a year or more from now.

I can't figure out if its the games, or if its just me, completely grown out of it. I love video games, but only when they are multiplayer. I do my FPS games, they are fun for a few rounds, then boring.

So I banked on loving DarkFall, and our relationship is very bad (and regardless what anyone says, most of the people are also signed up for MO hoping its better). I do not wanna skill up to 60 Herb Gathering to never get a steedgrass.... eh, thats the least of the problems I have with the game. I love the open pvp, and all that goodness, though I don't feel I have a reason to go out and kill other then to make someone's night suck (which is always fun) ... whats the point, I get their goblin gear?

I don't know whats going on with MMOs, but since the awful game called WoW came along, everything seemed to just suck, and I guess my patience with new games is not wanting to do the whole 6 month or more grind to get a max level just to find out their pvp is awful.

Will someone please release something that is interesting for more then a week, thanks in advance!

Sorry, I'm just ranting ;)

How old were you when you started gaming and how old are you now?  I came to the understanding about a year ago (Around my 30th birthday) that it's not the games.  It's just me getting older that causes me to not enjoy MMO's as much.  may be the same for you.  If you have been playing since pre windows 3.1 your probably pretty close to my age.

Originally posted by Rollotamasi

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

...and for the life of me, I can not figure out why.

I've been playing these games since playing MUD style games back before I even owned Windows 3.1

the best games I've played were UO, AC and DAOC .....

now, I'm stuck bouncing around from let down to let down, and struggling to find something fun while games of interest get pushed back months or have release dates a year or more from now.

I can't figure out if its the games, or if its just me, completely grown out of it. I love video games, but only when they are multiplayer. I do my FPS games, they are fun for a few rounds, then boring.

So I banked on loving DarkFall, and our relationship is very bad (and regardless what anyone says, most of the people are also signed up for MO hoping its better). I do not wanna skill up to 60 Herb Gathering to never get a steedgrass.... eh, thats the least of the problems I have with the game. I love the open pvp, and all that goodness, though I don't feel I have a reason to go out and kill other then to make someone's night suck (which is always fun) ... whats the point, I get their goblin gear?

I don't know whats going on with MMOs, but since the awful game called WoW came along, everything seemed to just suck, and I guess my patience with new games is not wanting to do the whole 6 month or more grind to get a max level just to find out their pvp is awful.

Will someone please release something that is interesting for more then a week, thanks in advance!

Sorry, I'm just ranting ;)

How old were you when you started gaming and how old are you now?  I came to the understanding about a year ago (Around my 30th birthday) that it's not the games.  It's just me getting older that causes me to not enjoy MMO's as much.  may be the same for you.  If you have been playing since pre windows 3.1 your probably pretty close to my age.

my dad got me a computer in like 1990 when i was 6 (you know how some dads are, my parents were seperated so he brough gifts because he was to busy for me) and I got hooked on em lol , i used to dial up to about 10 different BBS that were local to me and play all the ANSI art games (which were interactive with other people)

(and before that we had atari, kaleko vision (sp?), then got nintendo)

so I'm nearing 26, so almost 20 years I guess haha , ,more if you want to count pre-pc

I am in the same boat, over the last few weeks I tried out AoC, Warhammer, Lotro,and spellborne? War was fun  till mid 20's Aoc was boring by the time i hit 21, In Lotro I hit 8 , 9 maybe and spell born just  a few hours was enough. I thought i was pretty burned out on games in genral.

On a whim I resubbed my old daoc account. I am having a blast again. I started a brand new character instead of playing one of my 50's. I am only playing an hour or two every other day right now but its fun! I took a pastel drawing class recently and that has been great as well. Now some days I draw and others i play daoc

Try going back to your roots and if that fails take a break and try a new hobby

Originally posted by Mistmouse

I am in the same boat, over the last few weeks I tried out AoC, Warhammer, Lotro,and spellborne? War was fun  till mid 20's Aoc was boring by the time i hit 21, In Lotro I hit 8 , 9 maybe and spell born just  a few hours was enough. I thought i was pretty burned out on games in genral.

On a whim I resubbed my old daoc account. I am having a blast again. I started a brand new character instead of playing one of my 50's. I am only playing an hour or two every other day right now but its fun! I took a pastel drawing class recently and that has been great as well. Now some days I draw and others i play daoc

 

Try going back to your roots and if that fails take a break and try a new hobby

ya i've though about playing daoc again, but i used to run 8 man gank squads

and there are no decent players to recruit to do that these days, nor do i have the time to play every night at a set time, so i'd rather no go play a game i dominated on, and suck ;) and the stealth game is to slow for me now.

shit if a new game came out and had a fun stealther class that'd work for me too

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

...and for the life of me, I can not figure out why.

I've been playing these games since playing MUD style games back before I even owned Windows 3.1

the best games I've played were UO, AC and DAOC .....

now, I'm stuck bouncing around from let down to let down, and struggling to find something fun while games of interest get pushed back months or have release dates a year or more from now.

I can't figure out if its the games, or if its just me, completely grown out of it. I love video games, but only when they are multiplayer. I do my FPS games, they are fun for a few rounds, then boring.

So I banked on loving DarkFall, and our relationship is very bad (and regardless what anyone says, most of the people are also signed up for MO hoping its better). I do not wanna skill up to 60 Herb Gathering to never get a steedgrass.... eh, thats the least of the problems I have with the game. I love the open pvp, and all that goodness, though I don't feel I have a reason to go out and kill other then to make someone's night suck (which is always fun) ... whats the point, I get their goblin gear?

I don't know whats going on with MMOs, but since the awful game called WoW came along, everything seemed to just suck, and I guess my patience with new games is not wanting to do the whole 6 month or more grind to get a max level just to find out their pvp is awful.

Will someone please release something that is interesting for more then a week, thanks in advance!

Sorry, I'm just ranting ;)

The problem is partially the games but it's even more the players. Hardcore players are picking up each new MMO and playing it like a job. Grinding as hard and fast as they can to be the best and have the best stuff. That is going to burn you out on games no matter what you do. You have to stop and remember to actually play the game for fun and nothing more. If you find yourself going to game forums complaining about this is too powerfull and other little details over and over, then you are overinvested in the game and need to take a break from it.

Games are trying to consistently improve on the grind = gains formula. So as more games keep coming out you'll see less benefits from playing non stop and grinding it out to be the best. And since I'm betting you're that kind of player, you're going to get bored because you're not seeing the result you wanted.

It also seems like you focus on PvP, the hard core PvP days really are gone. The biggest market for MMO is to casual PvP with battleground type of situations. Since so many people do look at MMOs as jobs now, they hate the thought of losing all the stuff they worked for in just one battle. Any game that tries to set up an MMO around hardcore PvP is inevitably not going to work out the way people hoped (see darkfall).

Do yourself a favor, pick a game and play it. Really play it. Explore the world instead of going "what is the fastest way to get to level x". See something on the landscape? Go check it out. Talk to people, explore, relax, have fun. I used to be very hardcore when it came to MMOs and when I realized this was actually starting to kill my enjoyment I took a step back and thought about it.

That's funny, I was just contemplating making a post like this today as well.

It's kind of sad.. I mean, they're just video games.  But I look all the way back to like.. 1999 when I first fired up EQ.  It was like an awakening.  And with each hour, each day, each passing month, and then year... it got a little bit older.  And then a little bit older... and so on and so forth.

Then it was on to DAoC.. then EQ2.. then WoW.  Each time, a little more cynical.  Each new character, and each new starting area and storyline a little less "new" and a little less surprising. 

And now, firing up a new MMO takes seconds... I don't play it anymore with a sense of wonderment.  I install it, start it up.  I make a character, I know exactly what to do.  I know to talk to whoever is close to me to start my first quest.  I know to train at level 2.  I know how to swim, run, fight, reply to tells, bind my keys to 1-5, Shift 1-5, Alt 1-5, etc... then I get tired of that first character after 25 quests of "kill 30 rats," and such. 

Then I stop making characters I like, and I read forums, trying to find out what the best class/build is for DPS/Tanking/Healing or whatever, and I make that class.  I start worrying about gearing up, and I don't have fun, because in all these MMOs, only a handful of specs/classes amongst dozens are even viable... so everybody is playing the same thing at the same time.  And if you're one shy of whatever stat cap, you get ostracized by losers who have nothing better to do than log into a game that's supposed to be an ESCAPE from jackasses in the real world, and try to make people feel like crap.  I don't work with the accepted/balanced classes and specs because I like them, so much as that when I group, I want my contribution to actually help out.  I shudder thinking that my inexperience and poor choice of build is going to cause everybody else needless downtime... so I strive to reach all of the "accepted" numbers that I have to, and before long, the grind becomes so unbearable, that I just quit.

It's funny.. I was always a die-hard single player RPG fan.  It was the social aspect of the MMO that made it a new experience.  It was like playing Final Fantasy 7, except your party members weren't just robots, they were controlled by somebody with a personality, even if they were 500 miles away from you.  There was fun, socializing, memories, all of that stuff.  It made playing RPGs so much more wide open, because you were enjoying it with other people from all walks of life.  Now people are bitter.  They go out of their way to hurt feelings.  There are people in the WoW forums that I am convinced wake up every morning, maybe go to the bathroom, come over to their computer, and literally think in their mind "Let's see whose feelings I can hurt."

How sad is that?  How sad are YOU if that's how your time is spent?

It saddens me.  It really does.  It sounds pathetic, but gaming is one of my major hobbies.  I've put 10 years now into MMOs alone... I have alot of good memories, and alot of memories with people I've never met in person, and just as many with people I already knew in real life.  I mourn at the passing of those 10 years, and standing here now feeling like I accomplished absolutely dick.  If I tell somebody about a specific feat in say.. a Super Nintendo or Nintendo game or something like that, that I did 15 years ago, they'll still go "Sweet!"  If I tell somebody I reached level 80 with two characters in WoW, I get "Shrug... I have six level 80s."  

I guess I need an MMO right now where it doesn't matter what class you play, if you play it right, you'll be viable.  I need one where if you decide to be social and just have some fun, it's not seen as "wasting time" because you're not grinding rep or some kind of stupid currency to buy better gear.  What happened to FUN?  City of heroes has been my thing for the past month or so, but I got that dreaded feeling last weekend... the one I've felt so many times.  This is just getting downright boring...

Recently I came to a realization, and it was kind of mind bending.

The reason I started playing MMOs was ... people.

The reason I now hate them... people.

How screwed up is that?

problem is games used to be about having a good time, now with newer mmos its a life style

      I'm in the same boat as you guys.  I've been an avid gamer my whole life.  I'm 21 right now, and I'm struggling to find something that'll hold my interest.  I love all kinds of online mulitplayer games, and I've played em all.  I've probably played 90% of the fps and mmorpgs to come out in the last 10 years.  I started with EQ when I was a pre teen and since then its been one virtual world after another.  Unfortunately none of them come close to capturing the magic that was Norrath, or the intensity of RvR in DAoC.

      FPS games are fun for a while, and I can still play CoD4 for 2-3 matches every day without feeling bored, but there's no depth or sense of accomplishment.  You eventually get so good via muscle memory that you get frustrated when you lose, and you need to win just to be content.  

     Don't say its because you're too old, either!  The quality of games right now is just garbage compared to where it was at during the 'gaming renaissance' of the early 2000s.  We're capable of such amazing things with our current technology yet none of these developers utilize it to the fullest.  Something promising like Darkfall was just hampered by complete incompetence and shit production quality, and nobody is to blame besides the developers.

     I tried Darkfall Online, and I can honestly say that the first week was some of the most fun I've ever had in any game.  The sense of danger and discovery that surrounded me were unbelievable.  I was glad to find out I could still feel that way about a game.  Unfortunately, it only lasted as long as it took me to realize 'this is it.'  There is no content, there is nothing to explore once you've seen it.  There is no reason to kill or be killed, no reason to loot someone for their 5 gold and their cloth armor.  What was fun became mundane and pointless.

     The key to a successful MMO is keeping the player interested.  Not just with new "kill 10 rats" quests, but with surprises and unexpected twists and turns.  The developers are forgetting that the most original, unpredictable and creative force in a game are the PLAYERS.  DAoC was fun because you never knew where that enemy group was, what they were doing, or who was in it.  You never knew when they were going to attack.  In Everquest, before everything was automated, you had a killer economy where players could interact freely and set their own prices.  You might buy something and plan to resell it, only to find out someone had undercut your price and you end up losing money.

     I'm just waiting for something to come along again with that level of player interaction.  Something fun and competitive with a purpose.  I'm glad I'm not a lone. 

Guys guys guys.... if you just take a look at this website you see many games in progress that are gonna be amazing maybe even revolutionary. It sadly all comes down to waiting and being patient. But if you haven't checked them out ,

• Fallen earth
• Earthrise
• Global Agenda
• Blade and soul
• If you want to put Diablo 3 in then I guess that counts(even though its gonna be 4 more years til release XD.)

That is some good mmo's so guys just don't cry. Because we all feel each others pain.

OMG I totally have been bouncing around lately.  Since leaving WAR shortly after it came out I have tried LOTRO, GW, AoC, Wow again, EQ2 again, and now have landed back in Vanguard.  VG is a great game except that it needs people.  Also, to the above poster Fallen Earth will not be anything. Trust me...seen it, played it.

I feel sorry for you guys I used to be like yall. Finally I gave EVE Online a try. its not perfect by far, but vastly superior to Level based crapola I see yall playin'. Just to prove I was correct I purchased WAR, beta'ed AoC / LOTRO, etc. they all stink for pvp.

Maybe WAR had high chance of success but ruined by unbalanced sides and boring Classes and simple design

AoC could've been good if they were good at programming. But I saw that fail in beta

Unfortunately many of upcoming titles will be lackluster too. Better blow off the dust off those xbox360s yo. I got RPGs on my xbox 360 and I tell you Mass Effect kicks most any MMO butt to next year alone

Defense of the Ancients, mod for Warcraft 3, has incredible depth to their PVP which kicks the crap out of most any mmorpg in this area. Over 80 Classes to choose from, items, crafting, etc just pure wickedness

I think one of the biggest problem is theyr trying to make the player spend as much time as possible playing their game and that its gone overboard.

For one theres the lvling, noone really likes lvls its just that you work to become "the best" ala max lvl and its often revolving lots and lots of meaningless boring grind. Quests in MMOs are jokes, I mean add 1 single player RPG that would have/survive having those quests?

It feels like the rest of the gaming industry is going forward while the MMO genre is twisting itself backwards. Playing should be fun it shouldnt be an obsesion or feeling the need to lvl or whatever. No MMO to date can give that, also the genre isnt that very innovative to put it mildly

like the devs I talked to at the AoC pre-forums were I sugested innovative ways to solve certain things, quests among one.

The answer I got was "Why -re-invent the wheel" and then they (2) kept going on about taking from other games to save time and told us if we truely wanted something new wed have to wait years for them to develop it (more then the years they kept us waiting, I mean they kept our hope up for beta for 2 whole years!)

I say their just being lazy and in the end I was right, atleast to a certain degree, their game failed perhaps because the lack of will to change features, to make it unique. If I had been the CO and it was a single player game Id fire him on the spot.