So is this just a super hero game with no costumes?

It sounds more like a Chtulu-esque adventure game to me than an arcadey superhero game.

To be honest, this is the sort of stuff I was expecting to see from CCP's future World of Darkness MMO.

Originally posted by Nikopol

To be honest, this is the sort of stuff I was expecting to see from CCP's future World of Darkness MMO.

Pretty much the same thing for me as well... and it's something I couldn't have possibly seen coming. Who knows, perhaps this could be an interesting era for MMOs, with new titles coming in the future (WoD, SW:ToR, Blizzard's new MMO and this).

I have to admit that I really like what is being said about the game so far.

No classes, no levels, the setting of the game is interesting also. 

Originally posted by Locklain

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Originally posted by Krayzjoel

Originally posted by Locklain

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

One thing to keep in mind, FUNCOM cannot be trusted. Dont fall for the hype, the marketing shpeel, the "promises"..ect Take this project with not just a grain of salt, but the whole salt shaker.

 

Sorry but the world will do just fine and dandy without your doom and gloom.  There isn't a gaming company out there that has delivered every promise they have made so take a breather and relax, being high-strung is bad for the arteries.

 

 

Totally agree with you Locklain! There are far too many ppl out there posting negative comments and spelling doom b4 games even have a chance to come out. Give Funcom a chance at redemption.

 

 

I really cant but help but see you two as being easily gullible sheep. If you see a big red button that says "push" on it, and when you press it you get shocked. Then you see another button on the exact same machine that says "push", will you blindly press it without associating it with the previous result? You see its logical and rational to understand cause and effect. Shame on you for fooling me once, shame on me for fooling me twice, is a good catch phrase.

 

Only the childish of mind, those who cannot think rationally, will use "doom and gloom" tagging as a way to counter argue re-occurrences in history. That means yes, Locklain, you fail at thinking rationally, and dubbing my comment as unwarranted "doom and gloom" says a lot about your credibility.

Funcom has continued to release mmorpgs that have fallen way short of their marketing promises. Lies, deceit, corruption both with developers and game masters, their company is pretty much earned the reputation of being untrustworthy.

If you cannot learn to take what they say with a grain of salt, be cautious and assume that they wont deliver, then you will not get fooled again by them. Its simple really. Theres nothing doom and gloom about it, just history repeating itself and if you are disabled to the point of not accepting the pattern, then perhaps you are the exact type of person they target. The Dumb Consumer.

Funcom's launch periods are the worst in MMORPG history. False announcements, broken patches, everything done to keep the player subscribing for the next few months after a launch. They dropped a lot of their support for AoC to work on this project when AoC needed the most work, when it wasnt even delivering what it was supposed to at launch. Remember, this is the company that didnt even test their patches, that allowed rampant cheating, and has on numerous occasions been caught double charging credit cards just to make a bit more money, which they dub as an error, and only fix if you complain about it.

 

Just dont be stupid, its simple.

 

One long post of you grasping at straws to justify your paranoia . . . If $50 is that big of a deal to you perhaps gaming is not your forte, eh?

 

Oh, look. The "You're complaining about $50 so you must be a broke pissant compared to my rich uberness" line that fanbois of every game/developer use at one time or another because they have no real argument.

Here's an idea. Show how Funcom has earned any right for a third chance when they blew the second one with the same mistakes, mismanagement, and ineptness as the first one?

And yes, whether you agree or not, Anarchy Online and Age of Conan are both failures. One game has 20k peoplep playing max and the other is struggling to hold onto maybe 100k with a game that should have been a million subber at least.

Bad billing practices, horrible ( and most times non-existant ) customer service, and a basic "We'll tell you that you matter when a guy is holding a micropphone to us, but we'll show you different once you give us your money, sucker." operating procedure are some of the main things Funcom are known for.

Also, AoCs' launch was just as bad as Anarchy Onlines. The only saving grace was Anarchy Online didn't have a 20 level singleplayer game to prolong the customers discovering of this fact.

Doesn't matter.

The only one I feel bad for is Ragnar.

The singleplayer games were great because Ragnar told Funcom to stay the fuck out of it ( you should read the mans' blog sometime, you might learn things ), or he'd quit.

He won't have the same luxury with an mmo. Funcom is going to be right in the thick of operations and development, as well as customer service.

Ragnars' reputation is going to take a hit with this one, and that is the real shame.

Originally posted by WisebutCruel

Oh, look. The "You're complaining about $50 so you must be a broke pissant compared to my rich uberness" line that fanbois of every game/developer use at one time or another because they have no real argument.

Here's an idea. Show how Funcom has earned any right for a third chance when they blew the second one with the same mistakes, mismanagement, and ineptness as the first one?

And yes, whether you agree or not, Anarchy Online and Age of Conan are both failures. One game has 20k peoplep playing max and the other is struggling to hold onto maybe 100k with a game that should have been a million subber at least.

Bad billing practices, horrible ( and most times non-existant ) customer service, and a basic "We'll tell you that you matter when a guy is holding a micropphone to us, but we'll show you different once you give us your money, sucker." operating procedure are some of the main things Funcom are known for.

Also, AoCs' launch was just as bad as Anarchy Onlines. The only saving grace was Anarchy Online didn't have a 20 level singleplayer game to prolong the customers discovering of this fact.

Doesn't matter.

The only one I feel bad for is Ragnar.

The singleplayer games were great because Ragnar told Funcom to stay the fuck out of it, or he'd quit.

He won't have the same luxury with an mmo. Funcom is going to be right in the thick of operations and development, as well as customer service.

Ragnars' reputation is going to take a hit with this one, and that is the real shame.

Look, I don't give a shit what you decide to do nor does anyone else on these forums.  If I want to drop $50.00 in the garbage disposal it is my choice and mine alone.  The point of the matter you constantly find people on these forums complaining about companies "stealing" their money or destroying their dreams.  Suck it up, don't be such a wuss and make a choice on your own. 

You don't like it, don't buy it and shut the hell up.

Originally posted by WisebutCruel

 

Oh, look. The "You're complaining about $50 so you must be a broke pissant compared to my rich uberness" line that fanbois of every game/developer use at one time or another because they have no real argument.

Here's an idea. Show how Funcom has earned any right for a third chance when they blew the second one with the same mistakes, mismanagement, and ineptness as the first one?

And yes, whether you agree or not, Anarchy Online and Age of Conan are both failures. One game has 20k peoplep playing max and the other is struggling to hold onto maybe 100k with a game that should have been a million subber at least.

No the point is someone making a comment about a game that isn't even in beta yet.... let alone released.

Point me to the official statement on current subscriber numbers for AO and AoC then we can talk.

Let's see... using this logic... just to give you an example of your comment here...

Most SOE games have almost no subs now... and they screwed over players previously... don't buy SOE games.

Mythic released WAR.. it has crap for subs and should have had a million subs... don't buy any Mythic game.

EA bought Mythic and screwed up WAR... so don't buy any game from EA either.

Bioware is owned by EA... don't buy ToR.

NCSoft really screwed people over with Auto Assault.. and Tabula Rasa.  Don't buy any NCSoft game.

You are either going to apply your logic in an even and fair way and thus never play an MMO again.

Or you are a troll... odd concept I know.

Or.. we could wait for this game... in the topic to actually be at least in beta stage...

and then talk about "its a failure" or "it might be ok"....

That would defy logic I know...

Games with no classes and no levels are what we have been asking for, forever.  If nothing else this games piques my interest with just that one feature.

Whether Funcom can pull this off, we won't know until it is released.  Let's just hope they get it right this time.  What is the old saying "the third time is the charm".

Originally posted by Antarious

Originally posted by WisebutCruel

 

Oh, look. The "You're complaining about $50 so you must be a broke pissant compared to my rich uberness" line that fanbois of every game/developer use at one time or another because they have no real argument.

Here's an idea. Show how Funcom has earned any right for a third chance when they blew the second one with the same mistakes, mismanagement, and ineptness as the first one?

And yes, whether you agree or not, Anarchy Online and Age of Conan are both failures. One game has 20k peoplep playing max and the other is struggling to hold onto maybe 100k with a game that should have been a million subber at least.

 

No the point is someone making a comment about a game that isn't even in beta yet.... let alone released.

Yeah, yeah. And when it's in beta and is shit, it'll be "The game is in beta, for cryin' out loud! Wait for release!!" just like the fanbois cried with both AO and AoC.

 

Point me to the official statement on current subscriber numbers for AO and AoC then we can talk.

They stopped giving official numbers on both games when their pops tanked. there are plenty of threads using public information from investor reports to show the truth. Go find one, since that's been rehashed to deth already.

 

Let's see... using this logic... just to give you an example of your comment here...

 

Most SOE games have almost no subs now... and they screwed over players previously... don't buy SOE games.

I don't.

 

Mythic released WAR.. it has crap for subs and should have had a million subs... don't buy any Mythic game.

WAR was a case of Mythic getting lazy. i won't buy another Mythic game until it's out for a few months at least. But Mythic has a good track record with their other games. Funcom doesn't.

 

EA bought Mythic and screwed up WAR... so don't buy any game from EA either.

Only games I buy fromEA are singleplayer, and even then they are few and far between.

 

Bioware is owned by EA... don't buy ToR.

That is a legitimate concern considering EAs' mmo track record. Same as Funcom.

 

NCSoft really screwed people over with Auto Assault.. and Tabula Rasa.  Don't buy any NCSoft game.

I agree. Although i blame the Garriott bothers for Tabula Rasa moreso than NCsoft.

 

You are either going to apply your logic in an even and fair way and thus never play an MMO again.

There are far more devlopers than the few you listed, and some of the are good. So your logic with that statement fails right out the gate. But nice try.

 

Or you are a troll... odd concept I know.

Or perhaps you are a fanboi... odd concept, I know.

 

Or.. we could wait for this game... in the topic to actually be at least in beta stage...

Sure thing. Soon as Funcom stops hyping it until it's at least in beta stage. Otherwise, it's fair game for open discussion.

 

and then talk about "its a failure" or "it might be ok"....

Don't worry. We will.

 

That would defy logic I know...

If we're going by your logic, I think common sense would even defy that.

Originally posted by Locklain

Look, I don't give a shit what you decide to do nor does anyone else on these forums.  If I want to drop $50.00 in the garbage disposal it is my choice and mine alone. 

 I agree. But don't come out like a condescending little shit acting like people are beneath you because they think $50 may be worth worrying about. Oh, and what makes you think anyone gives a shit what YOU decide, again going by your logic? Yet here you are.

The point of the matter you constantly find people on these forums complaining about companies "stealing" their money or destroying their dreams.  Suck it up, don't be such a wuss and make a choice on your own. 

I am making my own choice. And I'm sharing the reasons for that choice here. That's what these forums are for.

You don't like it, don't buy it and shut the hell up.

If you like it, buy it and shut the hell up. Now let's see how well you like that logic.

As for me, I'll state my opinions anywhere I wish within this sites' rules. Don't like 'em, don't read 'em. Otherwise, find some forums run by Funcom and post there so us bad people can be silenced to your satisfaction.

A sucker really is born every minute. This thread proves it.

Sounds interesting.

I just hope the exploration and solving puzzle part is worthwhile. If it is, I'm sold.

After Age of Conan, I dont know if they have the money to do this. But one thing Im sure, Im not going to play in the release date, like in AOC (the crashes and the bugs still give me nightmares). This time I will w8 like a racional boy. Good Luck Funcom! It looks interesting, but plz! Dont make the same mistakes that u did in AOC!

Originally posted by brostyn

A sucker really is born every minute. This thread proves it.

Don't know how a thread about a future product can prove anything. Basically the game doesn't even exist and if you're wondering when its coming out, perhaps the ticker on the website with 1300 days might be a hint. Than again, Funcom and their cryptic marketing has backfired on them before, so who knows. Still, this thread doesn't prove a damn thing except for an idea and concept for a kickass game.

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Originally posted by brostyn

A sucker really is born every minute. This thread proves it.

 

Don't know how a thread about a future product can prove anything. Basically the game doesn't even exist and if you're wondering when its coming out, perhaps the ticker on the website with 1300 days might be a hint. Than again, Funcom and their cryptic marketing has backfired on them before, so who knows. Still, this thread doesn't prove a damn thing except for an idea and concept for a kickass game.

Meh, gotta let the zealots have their fun I guess.  Since all they seem capable of is being patsies and follow the current hate trend.   Heavens forbid they wait and make a decision after a game is more than a CG video.

I am pretty sure that I don't buy this game when it is released - nor next month. Maybe after 6 month or year after release, I will consider it worth of further investigation. Funcom's spin doctoring, market department's false promises and too early releases are just making impossible to trust this company.

You don't believe it? Just look history of Age of Conan and Anarchy Online.

I am hopping on the bandwagon. Funcom eventually polished AO enough to make it a great game, hopefully the same fate awaits for AoC. Besides, I am a long-time Ragnar Tørnquist fan, TLJ series is a rare gem among single player games and you would be hard pressed to find a better storytelling than what Ragnar produced there (in fact, given the choice, I would much rather see a continuation of Dreamfall than any new, albeit great, mmo. Ah well.). And in case you got an impression of too many fanbois suddenly emerging, get over it, because..

There is no conspiracy.

Originally posted by Nikopol

To be honest, this is the sort of stuff I was expecting to see from CCP's future World of Darkness MMO.

Please stop reading my mind.

This is the kind of skill base MMO I have been waiting for so long.I really hope Funcom do it right this time,the concept is amazing and probably the story too and Dark fantasy has been ignored for too long in MMOs.I`ll wait patiently for the release of this game.(and World of Darkness)

The ticker on the website counts to the year 2012.

Ragnar said that we're not that far away from a release.

2012 happens to be, according to Mayan lore, the year the world ends. So I think it is fluff based.