I have recently engaged in comparing both Wow(Blizzard) and Eq2 since i saw the thread "Wow copying eq2 yet again" i have bought eq2 and a hell load of wow game cards for this (of which i finished in the past year XD) i found world of warcraft lacking unique attributes and i seriously found out that impossible Everquest2 would be the copier it was one of the first ever graphical MMORPG released in 1999 y dont you reply with your opinion and new info will be updated visit daily for more'o'dis

I think WoW initially copied EQ2 however the newer features in WoW have been copied by EQ2. So it's a give and take relationship on both ends...

I think they both copied a game that will begin development in 2010 and release in 2015.

So many games borrow features from so many others so often that it doesn't always make sense to say that one game is copying this particular other game.  It's far more common to be able to say that a game is copying what most of the industry does in a particular matter.

The OP is wrong in so many ways that the vote is useless.

EQ2 was NOT one of the first graphical MMORPGs - might have been number 20 (guesstimate). Everyone looked at EQ1 and Blizzard hired some EQ1 people.

But saying WoW copied EQ2 is uhmm - not smart.

i have seen for the two of them and eq was in the 1999, not eq2 so wow wasn't really the copyer if we look at time and past time. but the first ever graphical mmo was before eq and there was a lot of them like the realm and legends of kesmai and then there was meridian 59 which needs to be mentioned otherwise teh m59 fans will bite my head off om nom nom nom CHOMP.

 I don't think Blizzard copied EQ2 because as best as I can remember they released around the same time.  Blizzard copied the original EQ just took out most of the stupid, pointless time sinks that were in original EQ.

Here you can sort by release date.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_MMORPGs

WoW copied EQ1. WoW copied EQ2. EQ2 copied WoW.

whoops sorry i meant eq the series not only 2

Originally posted by drasilgame

WoW copied EQ1. WoW copied EQ2. EQ2 copied WoW.

Eq2 came before Wow, but nice try :3

And before someone says otherwise, look it up before posting.

Copying features from another game isn't really being a "fraud" the op is surely misuing the word or just didn't know which word to put there. Though fraud makes people come here instead of another "copy paste" thread.

Besides, if taking good features from another company is bad, just look at all other merchandise,food,cars and whatnots. It's everywhere, don't think it's just around a game. And yes, im overdoing it :D

as i remember first area in both games "evil" side have places called crossroads (quest hub) and first dungeon is called wailing caverns/cave but why make it so obvious.

Originally posted by Bakoryo

Originally posted by drasilgame

WoW copied EQ1. WoW copied EQ2. EQ2 copied WoW.

 

 

Eq2 came before Wow, but nice try :3

And before someone says otherwise, look it up before posting.

 

Copying features from another game isn't really being a "fraud" the op is surely misuing the word or just didn't know which word to put there. Though fraud makes people come here instead of another "copy paste" thread.

 

Besides, if taking good features from another company is bad, just look at all other merchandise,food,cars and whatnots. It's everywhere, don't think it's just around a game. And yes, im overdoing it :D

dang your terribly right but then again i was still right blizzard is paying programmers who dont deserve the money so i guess thats fraud activity

Originally posted by Bakoryo

Originally posted by drasilgame

WoW copied EQ1. WoW copied EQ2. EQ2 copied WoW.

 

 

Eq2 came before Wow, but nice try :3

And before someone says otherwise, look it up before posting.

 

Copying features from another game isn't really being a "fraud" the op is surely misuing the word or just didn't know which word to put there. Though fraud makes people come here instead of another "copy paste" thread.

 

Besides, if taking good features from another company is bad, just look at all other merchandise,food,cars and whatnots. It's everywhere, don't think it's just around a game. And yes, im overdoing it :D

EQ2 came out in a rush when WoW is going alpha closed beta.  That rush costed them a flop in launch.
 

So its ridiculous to say WoW copy EQ2, WoW is already fully coded when EQ2 launched.  It is inevitable that WoW makes reference to EQ1 when designing WoW, be it good features to model on, or bad features to avoid.  EQ1 is about the only player in the market worth looking at.  UO interface is too crude to be worth copying.

I fully agree with your liberal stance and open-mindness.  Learning from competitors is one of the best aspect of progress.  After all, we all learn from others, in that none of us are borned with the knowledge of alphabets.

Originally posted by Schufti

Originally posted by Bakoryo

Originally posted by drasilgame

WoW copied EQ1. WoW copied EQ2. EQ2 copied WoW.

 

 

Eq2 came before Wow, but nice try :3

And before someone says otherwise, look it up before posting.

 

Copying features from another game isn't really being a "fraud" the op is surely misuing the word or just didn't know which word to put there. Though fraud makes people come here instead of another "copy paste" thread.

 

Besides, if taking good features from another company is bad, just look at all other merchandise,food,cars and whatnots. It's everywhere, don't think it's just around a game. And yes, im overdoing it :D

 

dang your terribly right but then again i was still right blizzard is paying programmers who dont deserve the money so i guess thats fraud activity

Why are those programmers not deserving the money?  Programers only write the code, not design the game.  And from what I see the game engine itself is alright.

Originally posted by Bakoryo

Originally posted by drasilgame

WoW copied EQ1. WoW copied EQ2. EQ2 copied WoW.

 

 

Eq2 came before Wow, but nice try :3

And before someone says otherwise, look it up before posting.D

EverQuest II and World of Warcraft launched within 4 days of each other. So unless Blizzard created, printed, published World of Warcraft in just 4 days the statement that they copied anything from EverQuest II is stupid.

Fact is everyone borrows from each other, just like most cars have 4 wheels and a motor.

If you want to talk about copy - let's ask the pen & paper RPG'ers what they think of MMORPGs....

In terms of game engines, Blizzard created the best character based MMORPG engine to date. The ability to scale to slow computers is from a business POV the smart choice.

Besides there has been huge improvements to the WoW engine and it's by no mean outdated - the entire graphics engine is rewritten for every expansion just like fx. EVE Onlines engine has been rewritten 5 times while I was playing that because sometimes it's best to start over instead of patching and adding layers that will just complicate things.

No MMORPG game is truely innovating, most have been describen in books, old games or pen & paper games. But that's not to say that you can't improve and I think saying someone copied something is a waste of time - the better game will always win out - always.

WoW is heavily based on the EQ model of gameplay, which is no surprise given that some of the designers, such as Rob Pardo and the less likable Tigole were hardcore EQ raiders. Early WoW was basically an incarnation of what kind of MMO these guys wanted to play. As EQ was a heavily PvE raid based-game, this was the model WoW adopted. Blizzard didn't really innovate with WoW, but brought things they felt worked in previous MMOs together and the end result turned out popular and the game accessible. WoW "copied" features from EQ, DAoC and EQ2, and possibly other titles. Questing, raiding, battlegrounds, dungeons etc. are all things they took from games that went before them. This is no different from what games do in other genres, so I don't see why it's a big deal or how it somehow makes WoW a "fraud". It makes people who claim other games stole this and that from WoW look immensely stupid, sure, but that's about it. If there's a feature that would make a lot of sense in your game and you think it would make it better, are you really going to not put it in just so some shmuck on the Internet can't claim "ogm wOw copeid it!!11"? I think not.

this argument is still on but wait can you visit my first thread "A New Mmorpg - I Need a team"

Everyone copies wow, even Meridian59 is a wow clone

Hang on - you come here, make one of the dumbest posts ever, and then want help to make an mmo? Classic.