I work in a female dominated workforce, so I know a lot of women 20 to 50 years of age.  Out of all the women I know, only a couple game.  One plays online gambling and the other plays because her husband does and it's something they can do together.  However, she doesn't play mmo's: to quote, "I don't have time to play that stuff!"

From the women I have talked to, most of them are busy with their careers and families or prefer to be social with real life friends.  They think of gaming as a waste of time and wonder how an adult can sit infront of a computer playing a game for hours on end. 

Having said that, I have met quite a few women in mmo's.  Atleast they said they were women.

 I am a woman, and I do play MMOs, but I don't play EVE. I selected the 'boring' option, but that really wasn't what turned me away-- I just don't like being stuck in a ship (which is essentially the same thing as being a ship). I didn't think the gameplay was too complicated, but my spatial awareness sucks, so flying in a 3-D environment wasn't fun for me either. 

I know women who love EVE above any other game, women who never got past the 'perplexed' stage with it, and women who would never touch it. Same as with men.

What attracts people to, or drives them away from games would seem to have much more to do with personal taste than gender, yes?

Not to mention how they grew up. Every male and female gamer I know was introduced to gaming at a very young age by a geeky parent or something. It simply became a part of their life and what they grew up playing very obviously affects what they play now.

Based on my experience (anecdotal, yes) I'd say maybe 5% of the people playing EvE are women.

They tend to be highly organized, in positions of leadership, very goal oriented, and in many cases the scariest and most aggressive players out there. In short, a lot of them are very good at it.  Because women tend to approach problems more holistically than men they often have insights that other players lack.

To be fair I also know a small minority that are happy to be 100% carebear in empire and have no intention of changing.

Before anyone asks, no I am not female- I've just been very impressed with the females I've know in game (even if some of them drive me nucking futs at times).

Originally posted by damian7

how many guys put an answer at random, so they could see the poll results?

 

 

edit:  by the by, unless it's changed recently - the smartest person in the world is a woman.

Considering us men spend our ENTIRE lives trying to appease women...

And women spend their ENTIRE lives trying to make that impossible...

I would agree that women are superior to us mere mortals.

Originally posted by damian7

 

edit:  by the by, unless it's changed recently - the smartest person in the world is a woman.

Not true. Nobody knows who the smartest person in the world is, and there is no test that objectively measures intelligence (IQ test results only correlate to specific domains associated with intelligence, and even then women tend to lean more toward the average, whereas men go to the extremes more often - eg, three times as many men with an IQ over 130 than women, but also three times as many men with an IQ lower than 70 compared to women, just an example). And even considering IQ, the woman you were talking about does not have the highest measured IQ.

to say that the game is male dominated because it is to complicated for girls is simply deluding yourself with the guys are more logical=smart bullshit. Girls can cope with complicated very well indeed.

Girls are usually more socially adept, guys are usually goal oriented. EVE needs a lot of goal oriented focus.

My wife started playing fairly recently, i tend to solo carebear (production/industry) she is really getting into fleet PVP.

One of the soppiest and girly scifi books that i have ever read was "The Ship Who Sang" (1961) a short story by science fiction author Anne McCaffrey. which really does focus on the transhumanism of a pod like existence.

from Wiki

"The Brain & Brawn Ship series takes place in the distant future, when parents of children who are born with severe physical handicaps but highly developed minds are given the option of allowing them to become "shell people"; encapsulated as children in a titanium life-support shell and specially trained for tasks that a "normal" human would be unable to do."

You need a "I only want to see the poll results" option.

I'm sure there are a lot of female players playing EvE, is a matter of taste, not a matter of sex.

'Is EvE a "For Males Only" Game?'

Christ, I hope not. Walking in Stations must mean cyber-snogging amongst over things an actual real girl eventually.

The mentality to play or not play EVE is not inhernet based on gender. I know quite a few real women that play the game. I would even dare say the percentage of femailes in EVE is much higher than the 5% someoneelse posted and put it closer to 25%.

My experience with true females gamers in EVE has left me with a ton of respect for them. They have a difference play style than men in every aspect. This means a female fleet commander will typically cause a male fleet commander a lot of grief the first few times they fight. Additionally the females I know tend to be better at organization. With this in mind most of them rise to Director or CEO positions in various corporations and alliances.

The real shame is that EVE with it's techer scifi feel seems to put off most women. When ambulation comes to pass this might change but for now a lot of women do not give EVE a chance because it does not look fun to them.

As with all MMOs however EVE suffers from the teenage boy chat crap. This means a lot of women get offended or feel they are in a hostile evironment. With this in mind I can state that a lot of corporations in EVE, including the one I am in, demand a level of decorum on their chat channels to allow women to feel comfortable.

Originally posted by Praetoriani

Originally posted by damian7

 

edit:  by the by, unless it's changed recently - the smartest person in the world is a woman.

 

Not true. Nobody knows who the smartest person in the world is, and there is no test that objectively measures intelligence (IQ test results only correlate to specific domains associated with intelligence, and even then women tend to lean more toward the average, whereas men go to the extremes more often - eg, three times as many men with an IQ over 130 than women, but also three times as many men with an IQ lower than 70 compared to women, just an example). And even considering IQ, the woman you were talking about does not have the highest measured IQ.

I beg to question, and what percentage of men/women are involved with making the IQ test to begin with?  More importantly is it objective or seeded with subjective cultural contamination?
 

To the OP yes some women find the game perplaexing while others find itboring and others find it enjoyable. It's all about preferences and not if the game is complicated, your friend in EVE just couldn't understand why she couldn't undertsand the  simplicity of the concept of buying things off the market so that is why he said what he said.

well considering my corp was founded by a woman, and about 1/4 to 1/3 of my corp of 40 people are woman....and i know at least a dozen more in my addressbook.....i would have to answer no...

Originally posted by Fa+e

...I'm sorry, but I do not understand your point.  I am simply trying to find out if my friend's opinion is correct based on the opinion of the women of this site.

Considering that At least 4 of my alliance mates are Female, And Several of the EVE-TV crew are female and play EVE that would be a fairly good indication that he is wrong.

Originally posted by hidden1

Originally posted by Praetoriani

Originally posted by damian7

 

edit:  by the by, unless it's changed recently - the smartest person in the world is a woman.

 

Not true. Nobody knows who the smartest person in the world is, and there is no test that objectively measures intelligence (IQ test results only correlate to specific domains associated with intelligence, and even then women tend to lean more toward the average, whereas men go to the extremes more often - eg, three times as many men with an IQ over 130 than women, but also three times as many men with an IQ lower than 70 compared to women, just an example). And even considering IQ, the woman you were talking about does not have the highest measured IQ.

I beg to question, and what percentage of men/women are involved with making the IQ test to begin with?  More importantly is it objective or seeded with subjective cultural contamination?
 

All valid criticism and proves my point exactly. No unbiased test is really unbiased. However, the correlation with, say, academic achievements and IQ is pretty much the same for females and males, so there is no significant sex bias in the modern tests.

Laura played Eve FYI..

I got several female players in my alliance. My only pov is of course the one of a 0.0 only player, but the 5% mark mentioned in official documents from ccp seem accurate.