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  Agricola1

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Joined: 1/30/06
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"The one you call messiah is a lie"--- Gary Numan

4/08/09 8:24:37 AM#21
Originally posted by Fumbles
Originally posted by Agricola1

Gamespy seem to think that it's all over for CME/Firesky too click.


 

Yeah, they are getting their information from the Gateworld interview...

Heres Gateworld's update

Here's comment's on the official forums from their QA Director Khestral:

"Guess what,

We are here... nothing on that is changing... We are working... the stuff I have seen lately is nothing short of amazing...

Can you all worry about whether or not we use Armored Asgard or not... can we stop the drum beating and get back to our regular snarky joy we all know and love?

I for one, love the concern but honestly if you don't hear it from someone inside this building then it is not QFT...
Fair enough, yeah things have been quite but would you rather us work on the game or work on getting you screenshots? :D"

"Look no matter what I post to rebuttal your comments, something else will come up and we can do this all night... guess what, I love the fact that your sitting there waiting for a response... it means you care, just like we do.

I don't hang on a negative, if never works out when you do... see the positive as much as possible and move the semi truck forward :D

 

We posted a 30 second spot on TV and the traffic from that darn near shut down the site... So I think we do ok "


 

So again it comes down to one persons word against anothers,

Gary "MMOGULs" Whiting vs Brad "SG-1/A/U" Wright

  Zhiroc

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4/08/09 9:11:18 AM#22

I'm not sure to what extent I should continue to post misgivings. But frankly, the news of the statement is certainly "information light". And in that regard, it's certainly not a "lie", but neither is it reassuring.

Really, the only news that can possibly matter at this point is the announcement of the resumption of beta, which is currently in its 5th month of suspension. No amount of tales of "hard" work will shorten the requirement that it'll be at least 6+ months from that announcement to release.

A telling sign is whether they make appearances at the upcoming cons through the summer. That will somewhat gauge: a) how much they have done and are able to show; and b) how much marketing cash they have. They need to build industry buzz if they want a big launch, and these cons are a way to do it, not just with fans, but with press and retailers.

BTW, I can say that for the last 28 days, there are only 7 self-identified CME staff forum users who have logged in on 10 or more of those days (only 13 have logged in at least once in that period). And 3 of those are community managers who aren't really tied to development (I think). However, there are 7 CME users I can't track, as their users don't maintain a Last Visit date. One is Khestral, who I know is active, but the rest have never posted all that much.

One of the most interesting lines to me out of the announcement from CME was this:

We are currently negotiating several deals that will cover our financial responsibilities and fund the remainder of development. When we sign those deals, you’ll hear about it.

This will be the "make-or-break". I have a very strong feeling that they don't have the cash to run a beta ATM, otherwise that's what they'd be doing. It's been a month and a half since tkksnow said they were building and testing it. The alternative to a lack of cash is that the whole thing is foobar, which is the worse view.

  Fumbles

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4/08/09 11:15:26 AM#23
Originally posted by Agricola1


 

So again it comes down to one persons word against anothers,

Gary "MMOGULs" Whiting vs Brad "SG-1/A/U" Wright


 

Well, Kevin Balentine employee of CME, Tkksnow employee of CME, Khestral employee of CME have stated they are invloved in the day to day development process. Brad Wright who's involvement consisted of signing off the original story ideas and has not been involved since.

You can choose to believe who you want. In the end there will either be a game or there won't be a game. My current opinion is there will be a game. Only time will tell.

  Agricola1

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"The one you call messiah is a lie"--- Gary Numan

4/08/09 12:31:11 PM#24
Originally posted by Fumbles
Originally posted by Agricola1


 

So again it comes down to one persons word against anothers,

Gary "MMOGULs" Whiting vs Brad "SG-1/A/U" Wright


 

Well, Kevin Balentine employee of CME, Tkksnow employee of CME, Khestral employee of CME have stated they are invloved in the day to day development process. Brad Wright who's involvement consisted of signing off the original story ideas and has not been involved since.

You can choose to believe who you want. In the end there will either be a game or there won't be a game. My current opinion is there will be a game. Only time will tell.


 

Let's get this straight all three are employees of Whiting. Next all three are not involved in day to day development of SGW.

Kevin Balentine is a PR manager, so nothing to do with day to day development of SGW there.

TKKsnow is a community manager which doesn't require him to even be on the payroll, many MMO companies have that as a voluntary position. So he won't be involved in any day to day activity.

Khestral is Director of Quality assurance, so what Quality does he assure? Unless someone is coding the gaming there's nothing to assure, unless he assures the quality of MR Whiting's tea and biscuits along with his soundbites!

So the only one who might be involved day to day would be Khestral, but hold on I thought they were all working so hard they had no time to post news right? So how come the Director of quality assurance has time for this and posting on the forums everyday? He should be run off his feet according to the FanOri, right?

In short none of it adds up, unless you realize these guys are just talking heads for Gary Whiting, inorder to keep the belief alive that there is still a product left. I choose Brad Wright over the three stooges myself, if there is a SGW it won't have CME anywhere on the box, but you're right only time will tell.

  Fumbles

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4/08/09 12:57:42 PM#25

Like I said you are going to believe what you want.  =)

  supremeaaron

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Posts: 197

4/08/09 1:59:39 PM#26

Kevin Balentine is Firesky not CME.

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  tigam

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Posts: 23

4/08/09 2:20:40 PM#27

Firesky = CME.  They report to the same CEO and same upper management. They go to the same leadership meetings and sit within 10 feet of each other half the time.

Khestral, the QA Manager, is involved in the day to day of SGW.  He sees more builds and knows the quality of the game better than anyone.  That of course speaks volumes given the state the beta was in.

Kevin Ballentine is not involved in the day to day and paid to talk to the press in the most positive sounding manner possible.  Think about that.  This was the MOST positive message he could come up with.

The message is true. THey are still there.  They still go to work. They still try.  It just dances over certain realities.  Brad W. is correct, after 40 million dollars raised, a game should've been out by now.

  supremeaaron

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4/08/09 2:23:41 PM#28

Maybe it should be out by now, but rushed game aren't good aka age of conans release

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  Agricola1

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"The one you call messiah is a lie"--- Gary Numan

4/09/09 2:09:23 AM#29

If Khestral is the director of quality assurance I shudder at the thought of what the latest selection of screenshots must have looked like before he passed this click ?

  bctrainers

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Posts: 17

4/09/09 11:26:20 AM#30
Originally posted by Agricola1

If Khestral is the director of quality assurance I shudder at the thought of what the latest selection of screenshots must have looked like before he passed this click ?

 

I think they forgot the lens flare. ;)

img6.imageshack.us/img6/6360/1265original.png

 

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  yarubpup

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Joined: 8/28/08
Posts: 33

4/09/09 11:46:42 AM#31

"Maybe it should be out by now, but rushed game aren't good aka darkfalls release"

 

"Rushed"?
Darkfall took forever to come out.
The only game I can think of that has been dragged out more is Duke Nukem.

  Zhiroc

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Joined: 3/03/04
Posts: 169

4/10/09 11:53:51 AM#32

Someone on the SGW forums pointed out a cute website: The Magic 8 Ball

So I asked:

  • Will SGW be released? Definitely
  • Will it be CME that finishes SGW? Outlook not so good

:-)

 

  supremeaaron

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Posts: 197

4/10/09 4:03:36 PM#33
Originally posted by yarubpup

"Maybe it should be out by now, but rushed game aren't good aka darkfalls release"

 

"Rushed"?
Darkfall took forever to come out.
The only game I can think of that has been dragged out more is Duke Nukem.

yeh I relised I used the wrong game it was supposed to be age of conan instead of darkfall.

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