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  User Deleted
 
3/27/09 12:15:11 PM#1

 


 
Last night while traveling to the siege on the many cities on Yssam a few members of our raid group fell through the world. When a GM was petitioned, the GM asked the person which siege they were apart of… Now you tell me - why does a GM need to know that? What relevance does that have on the GM being able to remove the player from falling through the world - especially when the person is 20+ minutes from any siege? When the player told the GM it was none of his business, the GM said that he couldn’t help him then.
 
It’s also widely known and acknowledged that GMs have their own personal characters on the only server (EU-1). There might be a conflict of interest here, right? No confirmation here, but the rumors are circling that entire clans are experiencing random disconnects during sieges - even for some of their members across the world. Coincidence? Maybe. GM interference? Maybe.
There is a city owned by (I think…) Kill Cult. Whenever anyone attacks their city, the attackers are all disconnected. It’s pretty blatant that either the game is broken right in this exact spot or something fishy is going on… [cue the paranoid music!]
GM’s have even been spotted appearing at the site that is the target of a siege… are they scouting or are they just early? dun dun dun…
Although some of the above are conspiracy theory, some of it is serious (especially the first). The more people are aware of this going on the more Aventurine will be forced to investigate.
Spread the word.
 



 
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I used to be a GM in a shitty game called BiosFear (Lagheim). Some of you may remember it.

We were given 2 chars, a GM char and a normal player char. The player char was allowed to go about playing normally, join guilds, kill mobs, PVP - do everything a normal player would do. Except, we had a few corrupt GM's who would try to manipulate the game, give godly items and loads of gold to their player chars. It was detectable by checking server logs, but the head GM usually didn't bother trawling through masses of logs unless a player specifically reported a GM's player char.

Some people say this is the same in Darkfall.

Some people also say that a member of Kill Cult is a GM.

At first I thought this was bullshit propaganda or something, but so far we have tried to siege Kill Cult and one of their allies twice now.

Guess the outcome?

Shard carrier disconnected. Both times.

Last night we tried to capture Apollo's hamlet (Apollo is allied with Kill Cult). Just 10 minutes before the 4-hour siege timer runs out, everyone in our clan disconnects, and the shard carrier (who is actually in a different clan) mysteriously disconnects too.

But heres the strange thing: when the shard carrier got disconnected, he didn't get the normal "Lost connection to server" error, instead he just got a blank box with just a red icon and the [OK] button. No message. The same error you see if a GM kicks you without specifying a reason.

Was the shard carrier kicked by a GM? If so, WHY?

Well, this could just be an unlucky coincidence, or perhaps something a little more corrupt... it's pretty much impossible for a normal player to investigate this at all

But if Aventurine cares about the integrity of the game at all, they would at least take a few minutes to check the server logs just to confirm that there is no foul play going on. Av, we don't ask you comment on this or try to defend yourself, please just check the logs.

We're probably wrong and just paranoid, but if we're not... you have a serious problem on your hands.



 

  Ashrik

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3/27/09 12:17:16 PM#2


Just to get it all in the open in case it hasn't already been divulged.

Claus, the lead developer of Darkfall Online is a member of KillCult.

Claus, the lead developer of Darkfall Online is a good friend of LoD's GM.

No accusations here, just stating facts. I'll let other people draw their own conclusions!
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From one of the many threads about this incident.

It's the 2nd or 3rd time this has happened to the guild. No matter how many are travelling, no matter how many are grouped, no matter where they are located. People have seen weird crashes when travelling in large zergs, that's not altogether odd. To get them when not in a mass, or not even moving? Interesting

  User Deleted
3/27/09 12:28:00 PM#3

Tbh i was expecting something like that.  What do you think happenned at lunch? When most human starting zone were buged?  Could it been on purpose so game devloper and gm could get to the best spot.  And since they cheated to get there they can cheat to stay there.

After all, GM abuse is not something new.

  Raiizen

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3/27/09 12:30:21 PM#4

another reason why this game has failed so badly the staff running this game is just lolz they are even more immature then kids running there private server

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3/27/09 12:30:46 PM#5
Originally posted by LeKinK

Tbh i was expecting something like that.  What do you think happenned at lunch? When most human starting zone were buged?  Could it been on purpose so game devloper and gm could get to the best spot.  And since they cheated to get there they can cheat to stay there.

After all, GM abuse is not something new.

Lets not put our tinfoil hats on so soon, shall we.

 

  User Deleted
3/27/09 12:34:33 PM#6
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
Originally posted by LeKinK

Tbh i was expecting something like that.  What do you think happenned at lunch? When most human starting zone were buged?  Could it been on purpose so game devloper and gm could get to the best spot.  And since they cheated to get there they can cheat to stay there.

After all, GM abuse is not something new.

Lets not put our tinfoil hats on so soon, shall we.

 


 

Yea I know, wanted to say that since lunch  :S

  Vince_G

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3/27/09 12:34:43 PM#7

I love how anytime something bad happens in Darkfall the same people are always here to express there amazing opinions. There not even in game and they seem to have all the answers. We'll here's one from someone who is Actually playing.. There is a big patch today.

 

Thank you for taking time out from Lord of the Rings though and sharing your valuable Darkfall information with us all

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3/27/09 12:34:54 PM#8

I was in this battle last night on the side that that had the guy DC and lose.   While we are still trying to make sense of what exactly happened, it is too soon to post a thread trying to pass it off as a factual account of what happened.

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  robertb

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3/27/09 12:36:56 PM#9
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
Originally posted by LeKinK

Tbh i was expecting something like that.  What do you think happenned at lunch? When most human starting zone were buged?  Could it been on purpose so game devloper and gm could get to the best spot.  And since they cheated to get there they can cheat to stay there.

After all, GM abuse is not something new.

Lets not put our tinfoil hats on so soon, shall we.

 

 

Well, it seems that you did supply the tinfoil.. ;)

 

Anyway, this is a serious charge, (went through this kind of crap with CCP and will not do so again), if true would be a legitimate reason to  quit the game, for me at least .

  egotrip

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3/27/09 12:37:41 PM#10

I know it looks bad but things are not as bad as they seem to be

 

i'm sure there is a perfectly good explanation for all of this

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  PkL728

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3/27/09 12:42:46 PM#11
Originally posted by Raiizen

another reason why this game has failed so badly the staff running this game is just lolz they are even more immature then kids running there private server

You people are rediculous.  It is a widely known fact that their servers have been having these sorts of problems since day 1, hell they have to restart it every other month because of the degredation.  If this goes on after these issues are fixed then maybe you have a case, but until then it's just the wild speculation of someone who wants attention.

  Moaky07

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3/27/09 12:45:24 PM#12

This thread reminds me of all the BS I read about the CCP dev playing EVE.

 

Pretty sad they gotta cheat at their own game. You would think inside knowledge would be enough.

I am not a PvPer, but stuff like this would pizz me off if true.

This could make for some interesting reading.

The DF forums been the best reading on MMORPG.com for weeks now :)

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  Rohn

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3/27/09 12:58:38 PM#13


Originally posted by Vince_G

I love how anytime something bad happens in Darkfall the same people are always here to express there amazing opinions. There not even in game and they seem to have all the answers. We'll here's one from someone who is Actually playing.. There is a big patch today.
 
Thank you for taking time out from Lord of the Rings though and sharing your valuable Darkfall information with us all


Still, it was informative.

And, if we had been waiting for you, or Paragus, or RobertB, or Javak to bring it up or discuss potential problems like this, I think we'd all have been waiting a long, LONG time.

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  User Deleted
 
3/27/09 1:04:07 PM#14
Originally posted by Paragus1

I was in this battle last night on the side that that had the guy DC and lose.   While we are still trying to make sense of what exactly happened, it is too soon to post a thread trying to pass it off as a factual account of what happened.

 

I look forward to your conclusion.

 

Question, are GM's also not pain employees of AVENTURINE? Because if not, then they same just as professional as their moderators.

  risenbones

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3/27/09 1:05:31 PM#15
Originally posted by Rohn

 


Originally posted by Vince_G

 

I love how anytime something bad happens in Darkfall the same people are always here to express there amazing opinions. There not even in game and they seem to have all the answers. We'll here's one from someone who is Actually playing.. There is a big patch today.
 
Thank you for taking time out from Lord of the Rings though and sharing your valuable Darkfall information with us all


 

Still, it was informative.

And, if we had been waiting for you, or Paragus, or RobertB, or Javak to bring it up or discuss potential problems like this, I think we'd all have been waiting a long, LONG time.

Mind you it's not like any of us who havn't got a copy of the game can realisticly expect to get one anytime soon evan if we wanted too.  Not that that is an excuse to say nothing about it but would seem like some sort of investigation is warrented.
 

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3/27/09 1:07:45 PM#16
Originally posted by Rohn

 

 

Still, it was informative.

And, if we had been waiting for you, or Paragus, or RobertB, or Javak to bring it up or discuss potential problems like this, I think we'd all have been waiting a long, LONG time.

 

You kidding me?  If this turned out to be true it would be an amazing article.  The fact is right now there is no way to prove it, and the sources of some of the information regarding what GM belongs to what guild is dubious at best.  There is not enough tangible information to run with anything.  Remember I was actually there at the fight, and it was my side of the battle that got shafted in this, so if anyone should be nerd raging about it, it would be me.

Aside from all that, the preceding battle was an amazing sight.   I was stationed at the western side of the city with my guild trying to hold people off and it was epic in scale.   The city layout was much more advanced than the city I had to defend in article I put up.   This one had all kinds of suspension bridges and cliffs, and there was a zepplin that acted like an elevator to ferry people across a giant gorge.  I got to see cannons in action and took a bunch of screens during the mayhem. 

The screens are a big too large for the forum here so I'll just post the links if anyone wants to check it out.

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  Thoric485

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3/27/09 1:09:22 PM#17

Now we just need some GM cybor.

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3/27/09 1:10:21 PM#18

Paragus1: This was only one, of the many sources for this topic/event.

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3/27/09 1:18:21 PM#19
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Paragus1: This was only one, of the many sources for this topic/event


I don't need you to tell me that because all of the guilds making this claim are in my alliance.   I talk to these people often and I actually was there, and I own the game.   What I am referring to are the people dropping names, guilds, and GM associations.  These are far fetched and not provable at this point, and the sources for that information are people from guilds that have absolutely nothing to do with the battle, the alliances, or the people in question.   Quoting threads on the Darkfall forums as gospel is like doing the same over here, but if I had to chose I think I would listen to someone who is actually playing the game and was there over someone who is copying / pasting threads who doesn't have it.

 

Trust me, if it turns out to be true, then I will have an amazing article to write, but until then let's stop with cherry picking threads and pretending to know something when most of the people doing so are not in game.  If I find something, I'll definitely let you guys know and itll be splashed all over the site here.

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  MunioVeritas

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3/27/09 1:20:00 PM#20
Originally posted by Moaky07

This thread reminds me of all the BS I read about the CCP dev playing EVE.

 

Pretty sad they gotta cheat at their own game. You would think inside knowledge would be enough.

I am not a PvPer, but stuff like this would pizz me off if true.

This could make for some interesting reading.

The difference being when the sh** hit the fan, CCP was man enough to investigate it and give a full report.

The DF forums been the best reading on MMORPG.com for weeks now :)

I can't agree more. I'm not the least bit interested in Darkfall, but this forum is pure entertainment.

 

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