No you didn't understand. That is the point

Originally posted by Fr3akyNick

No you didn't understand. That is the point

I like you. You're funny.

You do?

Originally posted by Fr3akyNick

That's because you're incapable.

And if you cut what i posted, and pasted it onto a text editor, you would find that half of it is written by you.

And thanks for repeating what you said twice already. As if I didn't understand it the first time, you had to post it a third time.

Maybe if you tried to think before you post, you would appear to be  like someone worth listening to.

 

Next person!

WHO ARE YOU TALKING TOOO!?

Man I can see my stars decreasing with every post.

Originally posted by Fr3akyNick

That's because you're incapable.

And if you cut what i posted, and pasted it onto a text editor, you would find that half of it is written by you.

Error, Error.

Error, Error.

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Nope.  You simply posted while I was typing out my reply to Benthon.

 Well, this game is deffinitely not for everyone, but I am interested and will try to join the crowd there if I can catch the online store open back again. I simply cannot find a skill based game elsewhere with darkfall much of content in it! And I am sure tasos will try to enchance and fix it quite aggressively while I'll enjoy the starter. I got bored of warhammer to death, don't talk about Wow to me, just not my type.

Originally posted by robertb

Originally posted by dunesw64

Wow, robert couldn't refute that guys at all. His reponses were either "lol, what do you mean?" or "lol, you're wrong lololol."

 

Because his responses were inane...

The fact that you don't agree with them and can't refute them doesn't make them inane. Judging by the general consensus on this and other forums, his responses are in line with the sentiment of many others. Either grow up and play the game and ignore "inane responses" or refute them with some brain cells turned on...assuming they can be refuted in the first place.

Originally posted by Dameonk

Honestly, if anyone played and enjoyed UO in the days of Pre-Trammel (and still accurately remembers those days) they wouldn't touch Darkfall with a 10 foot pole.  

Even post-Trammel, UO is still a way better game than this.

Not the game, it's the company.

The way they treated the community during development, the way they're handling things now. It's not an example that should be duplicated by other developers.

And you can't separate the game from the company. Running a MMORPG is a continual service. The professionalism (or lack thereof) of the company will continue to affect the game.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth 

Ok, ill bite.

 Cool.

Ahem.

You're excused ;)

 

Small percentage? Can you give me this percentage? Or maybe a link (if it's so small), to all of these guilds websites that do this?

I didn't refer to any specific websites, so I am not sure of what you are asking, referencing them. When I say small percentage of vocal players, this is similar to any PvP based MMO from WOW PvP servers to EVE Online.

The total number of actual posters that stroke their epeens on the forums is invariably a small percentage of the total population of the actual game's player base. Darkfall is, in this case, no different.

Like EVE, where the vast majority are not actively pursuing PVP encounters, the same situation exists in Darkfall.

This, even considering that, at the present time, the player based is, in fact, made up of a high percentage of "hard core" fans.

(If you would like to go to, even the cesspool which is the DFO forums and actually count the total number of specfic posters that engage in this type of epeen stroking, you will realize that it is a relatively small number, in comparison to the total number of posters and is, in that way, no different then most other game forums.)

Based on my experience in game, I would safely presume that there are less than 5% actual hard core PvPers/PKers, 15 to 20% that PvP in situations that make sense from a game world RP perspective and the majority of the rest seem to PVP only when forced and prefer to do PVE type encounters, harvest, craft or trade.

What it is very similar to is the situation in EVE, for instance, where somewhere close to 80% of the player base are considered "carebears", for lack of a better term.

This percentage may be slightly off, at the present time in Darkfall, due to the nature of the limited release and the fact that the current base is mostly hard core fans, but even considering this, the breakdown of playstyles is actually, ( and not surprisingly in my opinion),  much the same. 

And, finally, don't forget, there are a large percentage of players that "talk the talk", but do not, in fact, "walk the walk", as in any game...

 

What are the rewards for soloing? Can you give me any item links.

Rewards for soloing are similar to rewards one would expect in a game like EVE, or pretty much any other MMO, for that matter.

Gold (ISK in EVE) and loot. 

"It is hard and as such, rewarding, imo."

Are you saying that because it's hard it is rewarding? Or because it's hard it also gives good rewards (as well as the enjoyment of being hard).

Because the game is more difficult then most to play solo, when you do succede in any particular endeavor, like simply arriving alive...lol, it is definitely a rewarding experience, imo.

 

K.

 

k...

Originally posted by dunesw64

Originally posted by robertb

Originally posted by dunesw64

Wow, robert couldn't refute that guys at all. His reponses were either "lol, what do you mean?" or "lol, you're wrong lololol."

 

Because his responses were inane...

 

The fact that you don't agree with them and can't refute them doesn't make them inane. Judging by the general consensus on this and other forums, his responses are in line with the sentiment of many others. Either grow up and play the game and ignore "inane responses" or refute them with some brain cells turned on...assuming they can be refuted in the first place.

lol. If you have a question, please, ask.

My prior response was accurate.

We got you, robertb: you pull those numbers out of your... err, how to say it politely... out of your imagination in which Darkfall is the perfect game with no flaws that everybody wants to play, and you try to present them as facts.

A little reality check: http://www.xfire.com/games/darkfall/Darkfall/

Hours played from that subset of users drop every day... Monday is the first billing deadline for the game, the curve is gonna be interesting to watch then.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

We got you, robertb: you pull those numbers out of your... err, how to say it politely... out of your imagination in which Darkfall is the perfect game with no flaws that everybody wants to play, and you try to present them as facts.

A little reality check: http://www.xfire.com/games/darkfall/Darkfall/

Hours played from that subset of users drop every day... Monday is the first billing deadline for the game, the curve is gonna be interesting to watch then.

You read way too much into my posts, though that sounds like a personal problem.

I'm sorry, but what is xfire?

XFire is a player community that has always revealed to be significantly representative of the tendency of a MMO... it worked for Conan, for Warhammer, etc...

It doesn't reflect the actual number of players or hours played, of course, but the tendency of the game to grow or shrink. And it has yet to be proved wrong on that point. The curve is going down, meaning the overall population of Darkfall is... decreasing.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

XFire is a player community that has always revealed to be significantly representative of the tendency of a MMO... it worked for Conan, for Warhammer, etc...

It doesn't reflect the actual number of players or hours played, of course, but the tendency of the game to grow or shrink. And it has yet to be proved wrong on that point. The curve is going down, meaning the overall population of Darkfall is... decreasing.

How does it derive it's data?

If for instance, at a certain point there were a number of players that left their characters online for extended periods, perhaps macroing for example.

How does this site account for such players that may no longer have the need to constantly macro, or that, due to in-game actions of game masters to quickly boot players engaged in sych activities, reduce the actual number of online hours of such players to more realistic levels?

Can you explain how this site does this?

If it can't, can you explain how a situation such as I detailed in my example would effect the overall trend, especially if the relative sample size could possibly have skewed towards these types of players, initially?

Or, does this site discriminate and make allowances for such individuals?

Thank you.

I was sure you would ignore the obvious and try to nitpick, as those numbers can of course not please someone like you.

As I told you, the XFire tendency ALWAYS worked in past games to reflect the overall tendency of a game to grow or shrink.

And what the numbers are is clearly written on the site, there's no trick, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand them, so I will let you re-read the label of that curve and of the other numbers. Try to unwear those rose glasses for a second, they use to impair the vision and understanding sometimes.

I've no idea if a poll has been carried out to see who has XFire installed, would be a cool feature if this website could detect if you have it installed so when ppl throw around Xfire numbers when can see if they really are such a true representation of MMO players who come to these boards.

Btw I have never installed Xfire in all my years of playing MMO's and nor do my kids.

Originally posted by qbangy32

I've no idea if a poll has been carried out to see who has XFire installed, would be a cool feature if this website could detect if you have it installed so when ppl throw around Xfire numbers when can see if they really are such a true representation of MMO players who come to these boards.

Btw I have never installed Xfire in all my years of playing MMO's and nor do my kids.

Whether or not you and your friends have it installed is irrelevant. It's a bit like saying "Obama shouldn't be president because me, my cat and my two friends didn't vote for him".

The tendency of the curve always reflected what happened in game for past MMORPGs. That's the point. The population of XFire users is significant enough to reflect the overall tendancy of the population of a game to grow or shrink. It has ALWAYS been true for all past MMOs.

But no worries, in all past games the fans have also tried to ignore those numbers or pretend they were wrong, some even when, like in Conan, their server was dead and you almost never met another player on it anymore...